Winter tyres vol 2
Discussion
Speed addicted said:
Downward said:
All the snow will be gone by the time I finish work but the neighbours have been out with their normal cars and summer tyres and made it back when the snow was deep.
Maybe it would have been a struggle if it was the peak snow last night.
Define deep? Maybe it would have been a struggle if it was the peak snow last night.
Actually it was just on Midlands today and they said 20-30cm
Edited by Downward on Friday 9th January 19:27
blue al said:
I know it's grim in Aberdeenshire, and some serious wind around the channel coasts.
But pictures of the "snow bomb" in Birmingham and Solihull are just hilarious.
How is it that a bit of slush is so overwhelming to a few people that they cannot function,
or the BBC are making it seem like it's the end of days, yet every reporter I've seen has hardly any visible depth of snow near them.
One just quoted 2" and it looked less than 20mmm,
and said the trucks had to slow down to 30mph on the M42..that's actually good progress since they started the HS2 roadshow
Never seen so many snowflakes behind a microphone
Jeez we had our H&S person on about £40k send us emails warning the pavements were icy and therefore slippery. Plus our chief bod routinely forwarding emails with weather warnings.But pictures of the "snow bomb" in Birmingham and Solihull are just hilarious.
How is it that a bit of slush is so overwhelming to a few people that they cannot function,
or the BBC are making it seem like it's the end of days, yet every reporter I've seen has hardly any visible depth of snow near them.
One just quoted 2" and it looked less than 20mmm,
and said the trucks had to slow down to 30mph on the M42..that's actually good progress since they started the HS2 roadshow
Never seen so many snowflakes behind a microphone
The UK and the UK's population are surely becoming (or have become) pathetic.
loskie said:
Jeez we had our H&S person on about £40k send us emails warning the pavements were icy and therefore slippery. Plus our chief bod routinely forwarding emails with weather warnings.
The UK and the UK's population are surely becoming (or have become) pathetic.
I suspect it's still the upshot of creeping where-there's-a-blame litigious behavior. Everyone has to cover their arse.The UK and the UK's population are surely becoming (or have become) pathetic.
My dad claims he has "town and country" tyres now as he went to the garage and they said they were cheaper than all seasons. Any idea what he's blabbing on about? It won't be the place in Middlesbrough or some ancient thing for Austins, the two things I can find on Google.
(He drives a 1st gen Peugeot 3008, which tells you everything)
(He drives a 1st gen Peugeot 3008, which tells you everything)
Edited by Somewhatfoolish on Sunday 11th January 03:12
Somewhatfoolish said:
My dad claims he has "town and country" tyres now as he went to the garage and they said they were cheaper than all seasons. Any idea what he's blabbing on about? It won't be the place in Middlesbrough or some ancient thing for Austins, the two things I can find on Google.
(He drives a 1st gen Peugeot 3008, which tells you everything)
AFAIK "Town & Country" tyres are a compromise between road tyres & off-road tyres, normally used by 4 x 4 drivers who want something a little quieter than full off-road tyres, or with a bit better road-manners.(He drives a 1st gen Peugeot 3008, which tells you everything)
Definitely NOT what he thinks they are & (personally) I would say a poor compromise for a road car, and almost certainly not as good as all-seasons.
https://www.millertire.com/6-12-firestone-town-cou...
Edited by E-bmw on Sunday 11th January 09:02
Somewhatfoolish said:
My dad claims he has "town and country" tyres now as he went to the garage and they said they were cheaper than all seasons. Any idea what he's blabbing on about? It won't be the place in Middlesbrough or some ancient thing for Austins, the two things I can find on Google.
(He drives a 1st gen Peugeot 3008, which tells you everything)
Again, probably some s(He drives a 1st gen Peugeot 3008, which tells you everything)
Edited by Somewhatfoolish on Sunday 11th January 03:12
te wrongly sold to him by an unscrupulous tyre seller.A500leroy said:
I've got by with summer tyres on the Aygo ( and a little clutch slip) but I'll be fitting all seasons before next winter for sure.
Anything on skinny tyres would run rings round something on wider tyres. If anything is going to be ok on summer tyres it would be the likes of an Aygo. I used to have one and put some winters on it. The only thing that would stop it is when it gets physically too deep.
ChocolateFrog said:
Anything on skinny tyres would run rings round something on wider tyres. If anything is going to be ok on summer tyres it would be the likes of an Aygo.
I used to have one and put some winters on it. The only thing that would stop it is when it gets physically too deep.
Or ruts in the snow that you can’t get out of because it doesn’t have the weight so you end up going wherever the previous car was going! I used to have one and put some winters on it. The only thing that would stop it is when it gets physically too deep.
blue al said:
Totally get skinny tyres on deep snow, but are wider tyres better on ice ?
Seems down south we are far more likely to get freeze thaw, damp/wet roads followed by sheet ice.
In this situation is contact patch king?
No, studs are the only thing that work to any reasonable level on ice.Seems down south we are far more likely to get freeze thaw, damp/wet roads followed by sheet ice.
In this situation is contact patch king?
Define 'reasonable level'? That makes it sounds like they're no use at all- it's not like winter tyres are suddenly comparable with summer tyres when it gets icy rather than snowy. My drive down to the A90 from my house last week on untreated B roads was a skating rink and I'd have been curious to see how much more sketchy it would have felt on the wrong tyres.
As to width, there's always seems to be a video from Jon.
https://youtu.be/wf_mIlU82Ac?t=375
Long and short of it seems to be the narrowest tyre there had the best traction and the worst braking- all relative though and you'll see much more variance between the best and worst winter tyres of the same size.
As to width, there's always seems to be a video from Jon.
https://youtu.be/wf_mIlU82Ac?t=375
Long and short of it seems to be the narrowest tyre there had the best traction and the worst braking- all relative though and you'll see much more variance between the best and worst winter tyres of the same size.
E-bmw said:
blue al said:
Totally get skinny tyres on deep snow, but are wider tyres better on ice ?
Seems down south we are far more likely to get freeze thaw, damp/wet roads followed by sheet ice.
In this situation is contact patch king?
No, studs are the only thing that work to any reasonable level on ice.Seems down south we are far more likely to get freeze thaw, damp/wet roads followed by sheet ice.
In this situation is contact patch king?
Euro winter vs Nordic Winter vs Studded on smooth sheet ice
https://youtu.be/gQxrXHdalE8?si=HGbGdqYv4KNL026f
What that doesn't cover is comparison on clear dry and wet roads.
Effect of width
https://youtu.be/wf_mIlU82Ac?si=0Sauq2vhb_urE5gI
IMHO more important to worry about what make and design of tyre you're fitting than getting knickers twisted about size and width.
Cue someone coming up with photo of rally car with ultra skinny tyres with massive hedgehog spikes. Totally irrelevant really.
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