Winter tyres vol 2

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Patrick Bateman

12,476 posts

184 months

Sunday 12th January
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Gad-Westy said:
E-bmw said:
I must admit, I haven't data-checked this as without your size or specific tyre list I can't really.

Having said that:

WRT winter tyre performance in summer, I would have thought good ones were closer to summer than you seem to be suggesting.

WRT wear on winters in summer, I wouldn't have thought a Panda would really be pushing the tyres enough for this to be an issue.

If it were my "winter runabout" I would fit good winters & be dammed.
I think the trouble is that although the car probably wouldn't have been bought at all if wasn't for a need to keep moving in snowy/icy weather, the reality is that the vast majority of the time, we have neither of those things and the car will be used for bits and bobs all year round. Picked the car up this morning. It's on some cheapo 'run(a)way' tyres at present. It's funny though, even on those, it absolutely flew up our hill so traction is not a problem. Steering and braking, ermmm, not so great. No decision made yet and I've appreciated everyone's input. Probably still slightly more leaning towards AS tyres but there is that slight temptation to just make a if a full winter weapon. Two sets of wheels is out of the question.
Bare in mind all seasons also feel a lot better on road than winters in my experience, especially when mild.

bolidemichael

15,776 posts

211 months

Sunday 12th January
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Patrick Bateman said:
Gad-Westy said:
E-bmw said:
I must admit, I haven't data-checked this as without your size or specific tyre list I can't really.

Having said that:

WRT winter tyre performance in summer, I would have thought good ones were closer to summer than you seem to be suggesting.

WRT wear on winters in summer, I wouldn't have thought a Panda would really be pushing the tyres enough for this to be an issue.

If it were my "winter runabout" I would fit good winters & be dammed.
I think the trouble is that although the car probably wouldn't have been bought at all if wasn't for a need to keep moving in snowy/icy weather, the reality is that the vast majority of the time, we have neither of those things and the car will be used for bits and bobs all year round. Picked the car up this morning. It's on some cheapo 'run(a)way' tyres at present. It's funny though, even on those, it absolutely flew up our hill so traction is not a problem. Steering and braking, ermmm, not so great. No decision made yet and I've appreciated everyone's input. Probably still slightly more leaning towards AS tyres but there is that slight temptation to just make a if a full winter weapon. Two sets of wheels is out of the question.
Bare in mind all seasons also feel a lot better on road than winters in my experience, especially when mild.
There are so many variables here — the Pilot Alpin on my E500 are excellent.

Patrick Bateman

12,476 posts

184 months

Sunday 12th January
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bolidemichael said:
Patrick Bateman said:
Gad-Westy said:
E-bmw said:
I must admit, I haven't data-checked this as without your size or specific tyre list I can't really.

Having said that:

WRT winter tyre performance in summer, I would have thought good ones were closer to summer than you seem to be suggesting.

WRT wear on winters in summer, I wouldn't have thought a Panda would really be pushing the tyres enough for this to be an issue.

If it were my "winter runabout" I would fit good winters & be dammed.
I think the trouble is that although the car probably wouldn't have been bought at all if wasn't for a need to keep moving in snowy/icy weather, the reality is that the vast majority of the time, we have neither of those things and the car will be used for bits and bobs all year round. Picked the car up this morning. It's on some cheapo 'run(a)way' tyres at present. It's funny though, even on those, it absolutely flew up our hill so traction is not a problem. Steering and braking, ermmm, not so great. No decision made yet and I've appreciated everyone's input. Probably still slightly more leaning towards AS tyres but there is that slight temptation to just make a if a full winter weapon. Two sets of wheels is out of the question.
Bare in mind all seasons also feel a lot better on road than winters in my experience, especially when mild.
There are so many variables here — the Pilot Alpin on my E500 are excellent.
Of course but I suspect it holds true as a general comment when comparing most of each type. Pilot Alpin are regarded as about as 'driver focussed' as a winter tyre can get are they not?

E-bmw

10,419 posts

162 months

Sunday 12th January
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Patrick Bateman said:
bolidemichael said:
Patrick Bateman said:
Gad-Westy said:
E-bmw said:
I must admit, I haven't data-checked this as without your size or specific tyre list I can't really.

Having said that:

WRT winter tyre performance in summer, I would have thought good ones were closer to summer than you seem to be suggesting.

WRT wear on winters in summer, I wouldn't have thought a Panda would really be pushing the tyres enough for this to be an issue.

If it were my "winter runabout" I would fit good winters & be dammed.
I think the trouble is that although the car probably wouldn't have been bought at all if wasn't for a need to keep moving in snowy/icy weather, the reality is that the vast majority of the time, we have neither of those things and the car will be used for bits and bobs all year round. Picked the car up this morning. It's on some cheapo 'run(a)way' tyres at present. It's funny though, even on those, it absolutely flew up our hill so traction is not a problem. Steering and braking, ermmm, not so great. No decision made yet and I've appreciated everyone's input. Probably still slightly more leaning towards AS tyres but there is that slight temptation to just make a if a full winter weapon. Two sets of wheels is out of the question.
Bare in mind all seasons also feel a lot better on road than winters in my experience, especially when mild.
There are so many variables here — the Pilot Alpin on my E500 are excellent.
Of course but I suspect it holds true as a general comment when comparing most of each type. Pilot Alpin are regarded as about as 'driver focussed' as a winter tyre can get are they not?
I also use those on my V40 as winters & can certainly vouch for them this time of year.

Bonefish Blues

30,229 posts

233 months

Sunday 12th January
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Bear in mind that we're debating tyres for a Panda 4x4. Either choice is going to be fine and keep mobile through winter. They have a roly-poly charm, but will never be the last word in terms of sharp handling. I chose AS because we use it throughout the year for school runs etc and put at least 10k miles on. If we'd bought it purely for winter mobility, then I'd have fitted winters, knowing that it would still be fine for summer use.