Winter tyres vol 2
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TG20T

21 posts

153 months

Friday 7th November
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Thank you legends

Yeah it’s an odd size isn’t it.

Great call about checking the door card, will look tomorrow.

Pirelli Scorpion MS - great call. Can’t see them in the rear size but worth exploring more.

Hunt continues…

E-bmw

11,745 posts

172 months

Saturday 8th November
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TG20T said:
Great call about checking the door card, will look tomorrow.
If there is a different size for winters they will be marked with a snowflake or M & S as in this one.




Suspicious_user

4,060 posts

213 months

Saturday 8th November
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E-bmw said:
TG20T said:
Great call about checking the door card, will look tomorrow.
If there is a different size for winters they will be marked with a snowflake or M & S as in this one.



There's no separate winter choice for my car - luckily I've got some 19 inch alloys.

E-bmw

11,745 posts

172 months

Saturday 8th November
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Yes, you (obviously) get that also, hence why I said for the OP to check just in case.

Tim Cognito

851 posts

27 months

Saturday 8th November
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Put a set of Vredestein Quatrac 6 on the daily shed back in April and have been really impressed now that I've had a chance to do some driving in grotty winter road conditions.

Recently had a 50 minute drive on the dual carriageway in heavy rain, lots of standing water and they felt very sure footed and stable.

Suspicious_user

4,060 posts

213 months

Saturday 8th November
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Maybe not the right thread for this - snow chains on front tyres of a AWD car - even though the owners manual says rear only?

E-bmw

11,745 posts

172 months

Saturday 8th November
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Suspicious_user said:
Maybe not the right thread for this - snow chains on front tyres of a AWD car - even though the owners manual says rear only?
Is that a question?

Speed addicted

6,137 posts

247 months

Saturday 8th November
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Suspicious_user said:
Maybe not the right thread for this - snow chains on front tyres of a AWD car - even though the owners manual says rear only?
Could be due to wheelarch clearance when turning, more than a traction issue?

Suspicious_user

4,060 posts

213 months

Saturday 8th November
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Speed addicted said:
Suspicious_user said:
Maybe not the right thread for this - snow chains on front tyres of a AWD car - even though the owners manual says rear only?
Could be due to wheelarch clearance when turning, more than a traction issue?
Could be, but I can raise the car 40mm or so with a button. The chains I have don't go on the inside of the tyre.

colin79666

2,121 posts

133 months

Saturday 8th November
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Salted_Peanut said:
The All-Season SF3 tyres have won various awards, so I ll be interested in your real-world experience with them.
Only had one 3 degree morning and the rest pretty mild so far but initial impressions of Autumn conditions is they are brilliant. Ever so slightly louder and firmer than the summer set, the latter perhaps due to a 94 rather than 91 load index. The Lexus isn’t a performance car and I’m not driving on the limit but certainly handing wise so far has been good, definitely don’t feel like a compromise over summers in these temperatures.

Only negative really is the lack of any wheel kerbing protection.

Will report back later once winter conditions have been experienced.


E-bmw

11,745 posts

172 months

Sunday 9th November
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Suspicious_user said:
Speed addicted said:
Suspicious_user said:
Maybe not the right thread for this - snow chains on front tyres of a AWD car - even though the owners manual says rear only?
Could be due to wheelarch clearance when turning, more than a traction issue?
Could be, but I can raise the car 40mm or so with a button. The chains I have don't go on the inside of the tyre.
He is talking about the outside of the tyre when you turn the wheel coming into contact with the wheelarch.

Suspicious_user

4,060 posts

213 months

Sunday 9th November
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E-bmw said:
Suspicious_user said:
Speed addicted said:
Suspicious_user said:
Maybe not the right thread for this - snow chains on front tyres of a AWD car - even though the owners manual says rear only?
Could be due to wheelarch clearance when turning, more than a traction issue?
Could be, but I can raise the car 40mm or so with a button. The chains I have don't go on the inside of the tyre.
He is talking about the outside of the tyre when you turn the wheel coming into contact with the wheelarch.
I don't think that will be an issue.

Here's a picture with the chains on the rear. Plenty of space at the front for these chains. I understand that you mean when the wheel is turned, but surely there's more than a few mm clearance there?



Pica-Pica

15,674 posts

104 months

Sunday 9th November
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Suspicious_user said:
E-bmw said:
Suspicious_user said:
Speed addicted said:
Suspicious_user said:
Maybe not the right thread for this - snow chains on front tyres of a AWD car - even though the owners manual says rear only?
Could be due to wheelarch clearance when turning, more than a traction issue?
Could be, but I can raise the car 40mm or so with a button. The chains I have don't go on the inside of the tyre.
He is talking about the outside of the tyre when you turn the wheel coming into contact with the wheelarch.
I don't think that will be an issue.

Here's a picture with the chains on the rear. Plenty of space at the front for these chains. I understand that you mean when the wheel is turned, but surely there's more than a few mm clearance there?

There could be clearance issues on the inside - close to brake pipes/hoses and wiring. Each manufacturer will have made a decision whether the tyre and suspension layout will have allowed clearance for snow chains. It will be model specific. On commercial vehicle with FWD, we would allow clearance for snow chains at one link loose.

wiliferus

4,194 posts

218 months

Friday 14th November
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wiliferus said:
Whilst we re on the subject of mixing tyres. I have a full set of Goodyear Vector 4Seasons on the family bus (SMax). The fronts have obviously worn quicker than the rear as I haven t rotated them. They ve been fine but I m toying with the idea of CCs or Vred Ultrac Pros.
I take it I ll be ok to have a different set of all seasons on the front axle to the rear. Not ideal I accept, but should be ok shouldn t it?
Went for the Vred Quatrac Pro+. Measured the Vectors on the rear and they’re at 6.2mm so I’ve left them on the back.
Looking forward to seeing how the Vreds perform. Being honest, I kinda stumbled into the choice.
CCs were a bit rich on price (possibly due to time of year? Supply and demand?) , so I struck them off. I actually ordered some Pirelli SF3s from National Tyres @£130 a corner which was a bargain. Funnily enough I got an email the next day saying they couldn’t complete my order…. Funny that.
The Vreds came in at £120 a corner which is a bloody good price. Hoping they measure up well against the outgoing Vectors.

colin79666

2,121 posts

133 months

Friday 14th November
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Prices of all season or winter tyres seem to be even more sensitive to size than summer as far as I ve seen. I got the Pirelli SF3s for £92 a corner fitted from National. 225/45r17 being a very popular size.

On the other hand the smaller 195/45r17 on my previous car were over £150 each for Continental TS870!

PovertyPrince

510 posts

46 months

Friday 14th November
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Thought I d check back in here with a little update.

It s 18 months with the Continental AllSeason Contact 2 s, obviously not a winter but a very good all season - done about 21000 miles, 5.3mm left across the fronts and 5.6mm on the rears. This is on a MK8 Fiesta.

No complaints. Excellent grip still, very quiet, very comfy. Has done remarkably well on some pretty sodden fields over the last few months for various festivals etc. Should manage another 15k ish before swapping out.

Drive Blind

5,531 posts

197 months

Sunday 16th November
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winter wheels back on today




Bonefish Blues

33,605 posts

243 months

Sunday 16th November
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The 155/70 19 Blizzaks did a very fine job of ploughing through that rain the other day - now for a bit of frost & ice to see how they stand up.

mercedeslimos

1,820 posts

189 months

Tuesday 18th November
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Drive Blind said:
winter wheels back on today



Very German. Seems to be the norm there now, a GTI or an R, etc, on either steelies or 17" Borbet aftermarket wheels as they have an AbE for passing TuV without any hassle.

ChocolateFrog

33,800 posts

193 months

Tuesday 18th November
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First salt went down on Sunday, let the rotting begin cry

This will be my 4th season since a winter wheels refurb and they'll need doing again before next winter. The summers over the same period are still 100% unmarked despite being diamond cut and covering around 25000 in that time.