michelin cross climates

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kurt535

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3,559 posts

116 months

Friday 16th December 2016
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hi all,

just want to offer my wholehearted recommendation for these boots.

they can be difficult to get due to their popularity but the resultant improvement in handling, grip and stopping distances has been superb.

far cheaper than a full suspension upgrade if you are going down that road for the first time.


trickywoo

11,704 posts

229 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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kurt535 said:
far cheaper than a full suspension upgrade if you are going down that road for the first time.
Say what?

kurt535

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3,559 posts

116 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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trickywoo said:
kurt535 said:
far cheaper than a full suspension upgrade if you are going down that road for the first time.
Say what?
the kits I've been looking at were @£300 before fitting - new tyres worked out far cheaper and a lot less grief!

E-bmw

9,105 posts

151 months

Monday 19th December 2016
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I suspect, if I was operating on that logic, then both are obviously required.

kurt535

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3,559 posts

116 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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to be fair, lots of people do both on the IS300, as I was going to, until I had a chat to a Toyota indie in Norwich. He said just get the tyres changed and have the steering geometry set up as this is often overlooked by people as the OE suspenders fitted were good kit.

SebringMan

1,773 posts

185 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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kurt535 said:
to be fair, lots of people do both on the IS300, as I was going to, until I had a chat to a Toyota indie in Norwich. He said just get the tyres changed and have the steering geometry set up as this is often overlooked by people as the OE suspenders fitted were good kit.
It's a massively overlooked item.

On most cars I have had a set of new boots has transformed the car, generally because the old ones were budgets, didn't wear well due to a minor alignment issue etc. or simply were far too old. The latter is an issue with lower mileage and low use cars IME.

People IMO won't spend out on tyres thought as they feel they are "too expensive". To be fair in my case, they are quite an expensive, and even on a Mondeo a set of new boots can be around £400!

As an example I bought a Pug 106 GTi with part worns all round, all fitted within 5 months of me buying the car. The tyres went as follows on a car back in 2011:

-1 Michelin Pilot SX with full tread ; Made in 1998
-1 Pirelli P700z almost on the limit ; made in 1998.
-2 Mohawks ; worn evenly and 2 years old ; Made in 2007.

I changed just the front two tyres for Toyo CF-IIs and that made a great difference.

E-bmw

9,105 posts

151 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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And just to put that into perspective..... Toyos are cr@p!

Rockape

264 posts

178 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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I found a cracking deal locally which left me £250 lighter but with the car fitted with these. First impressions are that they are noticeably quieter than the ditch finders that they replace.

SebringMan

1,773 posts

185 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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E-bmw said:
And just to put that into perspective..... Toyos are cr@p!
They're not too bad and it is all relative. Compare them to Avons and I know what I would rather have and it is not the British tyre. Same for them against budgets.

But yes, compared to something like a MPSS they are not all that, but you can't get PS4s, PSS or PS4Ss in 14" wink.