Squeak/Creak when braking - Discs and Pads changed

Squeak/Creak when braking - Discs and Pads changed

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andybell1979

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23 posts

131 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Hi,

Wondering if anyone has come across this issue before? When I brake the is a pretty loud squeak/creak noise coming from the OSF wheel, there is also some wheel wobble. The discs and pads have been changed and the discs are true apparently.

The MOT was passed as the braking efficiency is fine, he just wan't sure what it is without a more detailed inspection.

Wondered if anyone else had come across this problem? I'm hoping to try fix it myself if possible.

The car is a Peugeot 206 1.1 2005 model.

Thanks, Andy

GreenV8S

30,192 posts

284 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Pad binding in the caliper?

Eurorob

21 posts

92 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Yea I would say the same, pad binding? Squeak could also be excessive break dust gathered up in there so give them a good clean out.
Jack the car up and see how easily the wheel spins freely, listen for anything binding/rubbing, then take the wheel off and give it a visual inspection to see how dirty it all is

andybell1979

Original Poster:

23 posts

131 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Thanks all, sounds like it could be this.

Is there a permanent fix for it or is it a case of new bits, I.E calipers and pads?

Thanks, Andy.

PositronicRay

27,010 posts

183 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Take a look clean it up, if the pads or discs are worn, or the wear patterns look odd then look to replace as required.

andybell1979

Original Poster:

23 posts

131 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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I know Peugeot like to use torx fittings, does anyone know what size is required for the caliper bolts? Will it be T55 or something round about that size?

andybell1979

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23 posts

131 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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Bit of an update on this one.

So I stripped everything down and got to work with my wire brush, the caliper yolks were pretty corroded and had some rust build up where the pads slide, chipped this off and filed them so it was all smooth again. I had the guide pins out, again there was a little rust so these were wire brushed re-greased and out back in.

Some of the little clips that hold the pad into the caliper were broken so I'm not sure if this was part of the issue but its a whole new set of pads to get some new clips. I also had the discs off to clean up and re grease the hubs, no signs of any build up of rust on those.

So I put everything back together and went out on a test run. There was still some slight judder, I'm braking from above 50 mph it's pretty severe. But the annoying squeak/creak had gone.......or so I thought, did around 15 - 20 miles or so and it slowly came back and ended up just as bad as it was when I started.

It must be something to do with the brakes as it went away. I just can't work out whats causing it.

Dave Brand

928 posts

268 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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andybell1979 said:
I just can't work out whats causing it.
Crap pads?

andybell1979

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23 posts

131 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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I think that's the next thing I'm going to change.

Process of elimination now I think!

tapkaJohnD

1,940 posts

204 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Your OP mentioned "Wheel wobble" which is potentially a far more serious complaint than a squeak.
It implies a bent wheel or stub axle.

You have gone right through the brake and regreased to hub - is the wobble still there?
Spin the wheel with it off the ground, do the same without the wheel - is it the wheel itself, or the hub?
Work out the cause and fix, or get it fixed.
John

Edited by tapkaJohnD on Monday 3rd April 10:38

GreenV8S

30,192 posts

284 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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tapkaJohnD said:
Your OP mentioned "Wheel wobble" which is potentially a far more serious complaint than a squeak.
It implies a bent wheel or stub axle.

You have gone right through the brake and regreased to hub - is the wobble still there?
Spin the wheel with it off the ground, do the same without the wheel - is it the wheel itself, or the hub?
Work out the cause and fix, or get it fixed.
John

Edited by tapkaJohnD on Monday 3rd April 10:38
The first things wheel wobble would suggest to me is a wheel imbalance (if it happens all the time) or a problem with the brake disk (if it only happens under braking). Play in the suspension or steering can also cause juddering under braking.

andybell1979

Original Poster:

23 posts

131 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Hi,

The wobble is only under braking, normal driving is fine, no wobble at all. It doesn't pull to one side either when braking.

Next job is the drop links so I'll do a bit more checking around that area when I have everything off again.

Thanks, Andy.

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

191 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Have you tried going out and doing lots of hard braking to bed the brakes in?

andybell1979

Original Poster:

23 posts

131 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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I haven't, but I may just give it a go!

andybell1979

Original Poster:

23 posts

131 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Only when safe to do so that is...........

Defconluke

309 posts

154 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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james_gt3rs said:
Have you tried going out and doing lots of hard braking to bed the brakes in?
Conversely, the front pads I have just fitted to my car recommended bedding them in slowly and warned against braking hard from higher speeds to expedite the process.

andybell1979

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23 posts

131 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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These aren't 'new' they have had plenty of time to bed in gradually, I'd say a good 1500 miles.

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

191 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Defconluke said:
Conversely, the front pads I have just fitted to my car recommended bedding them in slowly and warned against braking hard from higher speeds to expedite the process.
Yep depends on the pads you have. Mine are track day ones, so when I drive on the road I hardly use the brakes therefore they start squealing and knocking (it actually sounds like they are falling out). As soon as you get a little bit of temp into them, they are silent.

This rambling is probably irrelevant to the OP though biggrin