Maxxis VS5? Meant to be a PS4 Rival.. (Tyre chat)

Maxxis VS5? Meant to be a PS4 Rival.. (Tyre chat)

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E36Dan

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7,543 posts

168 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Now then

I've just picked up some new wheels for my daily driver but need a fresh set of summer boots for them.

PS4s were my first choice, but my local fitter reckons these Maxxis tyres are as good, Maxxis reckon they've out performed PS4 in tests but I can't find much supporting evidence from our man jon/tyre reviews.

Just curious if any of you well regarded managing directors have tried these. Maxxis Victra Sport 5 is the full name. £100 or so less for a set.

235/45/17 is the size, if it makes any odds!

Dan

akirk

5,385 posts

114 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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If they are as good / better than PS4 at £100 less a set that would be awesome - my M5 is on 18 inch and is c. £700 for a set
seems a good difference in price

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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If they were that good Maxxis would be shouting it from the roof tops and there wouldn't be much of a price difference.

Defconluke

309 posts

154 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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I suspect there is more margin to be made on the Maxxis for the fitter.

E36Dan

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7,543 posts

168 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Sorry should have stated - the fitter isn't making a lot on them. I usually get charged a tenner each to swap them over from whatever I've bought off the internet, but wondered what they could offer in the same category.

In regard to if they were that good, Maxxis would be shouting about them, they are trying to I think. Or certainly were at some point. Their YouTube advert for the tyre is enough to make you not want to buy it, but I guess their marketing budgets are a bit smaller than Michelin/Conti have over here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo9pBRbeW-U

95JO

1,915 posts

86 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Let's just wait and see what Jon says... I'll be sticking with PS4's until I hear some solid reviews, hate sticking on a set of sub-par tyres and being stuck with them or out of pocket.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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E36Dan said:
Now then
PS4s were my first choice, but my local fitter reckons these Maxxis tyres are as good, Maxxis reckon they've out performed PS4 in tests but I can't find much supporting evidence from our man jon/tyre reviews.
Seems legit.

E36Dan

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7,543 posts

168 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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95JO said:
Let's just wait and see what Jon says... I'll be sticking with PS4's until I hear some solid reviews, hate sticking on a set of sub-par tyres and being stuck with them or out of pocket.
Agreed with that one. Just redone the man-maths and with the 'good price' they're actually more like £140 a set less than PS4s. I think I was looking at Primacy 4s before.

Perhaps I should just stick some Three As on it and be done.



jjones

4,426 posts

193 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Have had both pr4/3/2 and the maxxis equivalent. 2005 1200gs, 6000 miles form the maxxis, 10000 from a pr2.

Maxxis was a bit nervous in the wet but fine in the dry.

Would not buy maxxis again would stick PRs

J4CKO

41,498 posts

200 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Michelin, you know what you are getting, in a lot of circumstances it will be the best tyre you can get without wishing to start a holy war, they are the gold standard really and the most expensive a lot of the time, Continental etc are up there but always seems to be Michelin that are what we want to see.

Maxxis I thought was a 1980s Software House that did Sinclair Spectrum platform games.

You get a lot of stuff told to you in tyre places but though tyre fitters are around tyres all day, I doubt they do extensive back to back testing of each brand in wet and dry on the same car, and a lot of the advice will be based on mark up and whats in stock.

Another one is "Made by <insert premium brand>, thats as maybe, but sounds like bks to me.

That said, we all have to cut our cloth accordingly, I would avoid the cheapest tyres as they are, mostly, st, successful at keeping your wheel rim off the road but by and large they perform appallingly, people say "well I dont go fast", but you still sometimes need to stop quickly. I wonder how many accidents could have been a near miss instead, or a non event due to crap tyres, I know a family and they buy cheapos and they seem to have a lot of incidents, sometimes ending up in a field upside down.

I would advocate mid range and above, so Maxxis may well fit into that category.

Dont get too into online reviews of tyres, you get folk who are more enthusiastic about justifying buying cheapies and are only used to poor performance, pick a car and put 4 * cheapest budget option on it, then replace with Michelins, cant imagine many, after say a week in various conditions would say the ditchfinders are as good.

E36Dan

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7,543 posts

168 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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J4CKO said:
Another one is "Made by <insert premium brand>, thats as maybe, but sounds like bks to me.
J4CKO said:
Dont get too into online reviews of tyres, you get folk who are more enthusiastic about justifying buying cheapies and are only used to poor performance, pick a car and put 4 * cheapest budget option on it, then replace with Michelins, cant imagine many, after say a week in various conditions would say the ditchfinders are as good.
Very wise words! I liked the two quotes especially.

"Yeah these ChinLong tyres are actually made by Nankang" > words from a post-brexit Britain wink

I also find reviews for most things not to be worth a toffee. Especially in the track day world, where a tyre/brake pad is only as good as the driver is fast. I think I'll stick with PS4s or perhaps try Conti 6s.

Cheers!

95JO

1,915 posts

86 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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E36Dan said:
Agreed with that one. Just redone the man-maths and with the 'good price' they're actually more like £140 a set less than PS4s. I think I was looking at Primacy 4s before.

Perhaps I should just stick some Three As on it and be done.
That's a decent saving to be fair, but at what cost hehe

Just curious, you mention 'PS4s', do you mean Pilot Sport 4 or Pilot Sport 4S?

I'm currently running PS4's but I've heard PS4S' are better than MPSS' in the dry and almost as good as PS4's in the wet... Unfortunately only available in 19's in the UK atm.

TDilover

18 posts

76 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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I have been trying to research these tyres as well as my dad had some fitted as his pirelli p7's on the front would fail the mot and his mechanic who has been doing services to our families cars for years said they came highly recommended.

I have however seen this which does add some weight to the claims

https://www.maxxis.co.uk/news/tyre/underdog-maxxis...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAGegQI...

https://www.whichcar.com.au/events/tyre-test/motor...

RSTurboPaul

10,326 posts

258 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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I was going to start a thread on this but I see someone already has biggrin lol


I'm looking for tyres for the other half's car and Maxxis Victra Sport 5 / VS5 are coming up £30-50 cheaper per corner than Conti/Michelin etc.

https://www.maxxis.co.uk/catalog/tyre-52-1-victra-...

https://www.maxxis.co.uk/news/tyre/victra-sport-5-...

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2019-EVO-Summe...


As the sites above mention, the evo tyre review in 2019 (which I now can't find, annoyingly) said they would probably have won if they'd been able to source a set independently instead of having to rely on the manufacturer to provide a set:

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2019-EVO-Summe...


Has anyone on here run them and can comment on their performance?

d_a_n1979

8,330 posts

72 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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I know a few folk that have fitted Maxxis tyres (unsure which though sorry) to their daily drivers and haven't been impressed at all...

They're now on Uniroyal Rainsport 5s

For me, the only tyre I've personally found that comes close to the PS4 is the Vredestein Ultrac Vorti

Camskill have some great prices; but not sure that Vred do the Vorti in 235/45/17s

Scrump

21,969 posts

158 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Jon’s recent tests have put Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 up there with the PS4. They are a fair bit cheaper than the Michelins.

Haltamer

2,455 posts

80 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2020-AMS-18-In...

They do quite well, especially when factoring price point.

My dad has them on an XF Sportbrake which I've driven around a bit; Whilst I haven't gone wild in it I'd say they do a reasonable enough job - Quite safe handling, reasonably good grip:- that being said I haven't tried any other tyres on that car so can't offer huge comment beyond that.

Perfectly usable, but come EOL I'd probably replace them with ContiPremiumContact 6's, which seem to be a bit more handling focused than the standard (Non-S) PS4 Whilst maintaining good levels of wear / wet grip etc.

As for the brand, Maxxis aren't unheard of; They're extremely popular for their MTB Tyres, but have only more recently made real efforts with their car tyres. Judging by the performance in tests, they've pretty much jumped directly into the upper mid-range.

BDKM

85 posts

49 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Where are they made China? If so I would not fit them even if I could get them for free.....just shop around.....just got 4 Goodyear Eagle F1 AS5 fitted at Halfords £97/ corner in 225/55/17....

Michelin Goodyear Pirelli Yokohama Dunop Vredestein Toyo Hankook Falken Continental Bridgestone Uniroyal RS5 I said it before if the day comes when I won't be able to afford one of those brands I listed I'll sell my car and take the bus....

When it comes to my life and safety I don't trust China....why would you when you can get a brand I listed above for the same price as Chinese S£$%T



Here you go at Halfords all included (they are currently doing 15% off Vredestein and Michelin):



How much are the Maxxis? Just don't buy Chinese tyres...



Edited by BDKM on Friday 28th May 13:02

Haltamer

2,455 posts

80 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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BDKM said:
How much are the Maxxis? Just don't buy Chinese tyres...
They're from the ROC / Taiwan, Not the PRC.

A fair bit more quality than PRC products I'd expect...

roadie

622 posts

262 months

Saturday 4th March 2023
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Any more recent feedback? It would be good to have confirmation if they are made outside of China or not and what sort of rim protection they offer.

I am tempted by the price of these tyres against seemingly well rounded performance. The Hankook Ventus S1 Evo3 is an obvious rival, but even that is £50 more for a set in my 19" sizes.

Edited by roadie on Monday 13th March 14:07