Compressor spring compressor HELP URGENT NEEDED

Compressor spring compressor HELP URGENT NEEDED

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Lgg6now

Original Poster:

15 posts

43 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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Hi i have compressed my coil spring but now i cant uncompress it.
One of the compressors is stuck and threading and when i loosed the bolt it stays compressed against itself. The non threaded side is stuck and wont come unstuck from its current position.
Its the one on the bottom side at the closest.
Ive tried to take the strain off but cant even do that using one situated beside it.
Any help please as worried gonna cause serious damage or injury to myself trying any more to unfree it.


Edited by Lgg6now on Tuesday 22 September 15:44

Byker28i

59,729 posts

217 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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you've put the clamping arms too close together. You need to undo again and reposition

Jazoli

9,100 posts

250 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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Byker28i said:
you've put the clamping arms too close together. You need to undo again and reposition
He can't.........

It depend how brave you are and how compressed the spring is but you could remove the nuts off the clamps with a very long extension then throw your hammer at it on the other side of a wall or something, please have someone video it.

Edited by Jazoli on Tuesday 22 September 15:57

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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Buy another set of those widowmakers and compress the spring in the gaps you can - once the broken ones are loose, throw them all in the bin and buy a decent set or take your struts to a garage to sort.

A local one near me used to do them with their hydraulic jobby for £20 a throw. I also bought myself a properly sturdy set like these:


thewarlock

3,235 posts

45 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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Put another pair of them on, if you can borrow a set, adn you can fit them in. Then cut the threaded section between the 2 fittings, on the jammed one, with an angle grinder.

Or, take it to a garage and have them put it in a hydraulic press to take the tension out of the compressors.

SAS Tom

3,403 posts

174 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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Put several jubilee clips around the spring to hold it then dismantle the compressors and try again.

Lgg6now

Original Poster:

15 posts

43 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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Thanks for chiming in folks.
Some good tips.
Decisions decisions trying to think what the best one is to try.
If i take it to a garage ive got a feeling theyll tell me to take my ticking time bomb out of their fourcourt asap.
Going near the bloody thing is putting the sh*ts right up me!!

Edited by Lgg6now on Tuesday 22 September 16:44

Lgg6now

Original Poster:

15 posts

43 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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How would it go if i lossen the far away compressor and re position to include one more loop to the left where it currently holds.. And to tighten the close upper one a little more..
Would that take more tension off the buggered one and free it up?
Its a brand new spring but still a bit wary the whole spring or compressor might snap if its got too much pressure on it. How does it look to you guys?

Edited by Lgg6now on Tuesday 22 September 17:41

stevieturbo

17,260 posts

247 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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SAS Tom said:
Put several jubilee clips around the spring to hold it then dismantle the compressors and try again.
Of all answers, this is the dumbest so far....just in case you think of trying it.

Lgg6now

Original Poster:

15 posts

43 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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stevieturbo said:
Of all answers, this is the dumbest so far....just in case you think of trying it.
Dont worry.. it reminded me of seeing the pic with the cable ties holding one down

Considering just digging a very very very deep hole and just burying my problem. (Kidding.. But its how im feeling right now)

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Edited by Lgg6now on Tuesday 22 September 18:16

paintman

7,687 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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They all look completely dry.
Have you tried putting oil on the threads so it can penetrate into the threaded portions of the clamps or the non threaded part of the clamps nearest the headed ends of the threaded rod?
Keep it off the bits on the springs & a thicker oil such as engine oil or EP gear oil would be better than WD40 type.
But your best solution is another compressor next to the one you've stripped the thread on so you can cut that off, then undo them all & start again

Edited by paintman on Tuesday 22 September 18:20

stevemcs

8,664 posts

93 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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Lgg6now said:
Dont worry.. it reminded me of seeing the pic with the cable ties holding one down

Considering just digging a very very very deep hole and just burying my problem. (Kidding.. But its how im feeling right now)

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Edited by Lgg6now on Tuesday 22 September 18:16
Cable ties work, i have all 6 of my fingers left to prove it.

No point in taking it to a garage with our compressor you would never get the spring in with those compressors on.

Lgg6now

Original Poster:

15 posts

43 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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If i buy another set of compressors i could put them in the gap areas.
On the buggered one i can be unscrew the bolt right out of the bottom end of the rod. Its the non threaded clamp thats cutting into the threads on the rod.. The threaded end of that clamp is fine its the non threaded clamp part thats eating into all the threads on the rod.. But i could still unscrew it off at the bottom of the rod.
On the current setup would the 2 working clamp bars hold ok if i was to fully unscrew off the buggered one? Or is that asking for trouble?
If i can fix it without buying another id give it a go.. But if i gotta buy another set of clamps I'll do that if its my only 'safeish' option
If the unscrewing right off isnt a possibility id need to find a mate with an angle gringer to chop through the buggered rod.

paintman

7,687 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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As the threaded part is fine you could try lubricant on the unthreaded part followed by slight slackening & an arms length hammer tap on the end to see if it will drive through the unthreaded one.
I begin to wonder if you've managed to tighten them up so they're binding.

Chris32345

2,086 posts

62 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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Find a wall with s big drop on the other side
Those over said wall then quickly duck for cover

Should remove the springs from the compressor's
You may kill somebody one the other side however

Jakg

3,463 posts

168 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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User another set of spring compressors.

I hate, hate compressing springs. I bought a spare set so that if this happened, I'd have a spare - plus I could try to use one as a third compressor for redundancy.

Very helpful for me to say that now, of course - but if you can wait a day you can get some from Amazon / ECP / MachineMart etc.

Piersman2

6,597 posts

199 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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I had fun and games earlier this year doing somes springs on my lads cars, I needed two sets of compressors to get the modern design of springs sufficiently compressed.

Anyways, having looked at your photo and I think having understood your aut-corrected message, I would say that the compressors all seem to still be in good condition, it's just that the one closest to the camera is jammed. You can't undo it becuase the unthreaded clamp is being held in place by the rings wither side of it.

Looks like you need to slacken off the other two clamps a bit to create some space for the jammed clamp to move.

Of course, I may be seeing things wrong or misintepreting your message, but that's looks like the problem to me.

How many clamps have you got? There's 3 on the picture, right? I am seeing the photo correctly?

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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Still alive OP?

Where are you btw? A Helpful PHer might have some more you could use...

Lgg6now

Original Poster:

15 posts

43 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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Yup.. Still alive here indeed!
Was waiting for 24 hours to pass before i could post again (those new member posting limits could have been the death of me!!)
I got another set of compressors delivered today.. But not been able to even look at the compressed spring incase my terrified glare and luck makes it instantly give way. Haha.
The photo i posted had 3 compressorss in it as i got 3 in the pack from laser (paid 40 quid) not the cheapest but by no means shop quality.
I considered If i place another clamp beside the buggered one (on the opposite side of it so there 2 good compressors directly side by side with the stuck one and one on oppsosite (the far away one)... and i fully loosen the buggered one so that the open end of the threaded rod comes away from the threaded clamp would that be safe enough to do if all im doing is removing the bar from the buggered one by rotating the bolt anti clockwise if that makes sense?
So when i undo the buggered one rather than uncompressing the spring the two clamps on that
rod move with the same gap between them at all times.. And i could wind them right down and off the open end of the threaded rod. (Or i mean wind the threaded rod up and away from the clamps on that rod so that the threaded one falls away from the rods open end) seems like that would be the same as cutting through it with an angle grinder... And if i had 2 or 3 more good compressors in place taking the tension it shouldnt make much of a difference whether i cut the rod or just unscrew it right off the threaded clamp on the rod.
If that makes sense
I'll try and draw a diagram what i mean if that will help.


Lgg6now

Original Poster:

15 posts

43 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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[quote=Piersman2]
Looks like you need to slacken off the other two clamps a bit to create some space for the jammed clamp to move.

If i slacken the other 2 off... And then slacken the stuck one... It doesnt uncompress the spring at all...

As i unscrew the bolt to loosen, the bolt itself lifts away from the clamp which should be free moving meaning the spring is being held in place by absolutely nothing but tension and no bolt securing the tension.

So if i undo the other 2 a little
Then undo the stuck ones bolt there will appear a space between the bolt and clamp which should be snug against the bolt due to the tension.

Can post a pic or diagram if that helps