Different tyres on same axle

Different tyres on same axle

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AceKid

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289 posts

63 months

Friday 21st June
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Hi all,
Recently fitted new Pirelli p zero PZ4 (runflats, 245/45/18 100Y XL) on the rear of our 2016 530d touring, literally done about 50miles since fitted. wife took the car up to Legoland today and suffered a puncture on route, she managed to get a new Pirelli fitted, but when she got home I see its a P7 cinturato and 96Y rated.
Question is, other than playing with my OCD, will this cause any issues?

nordboy

1,995 posts

58 months

Friday 21st June
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Nope, no issues, apart from your ocd.

You shouldn't mix x-ply and radial tyres on the same axle, but different tyres from the same brand or even brands are generally okay. Some places will tell you it's illegal, but it isn't.

Panamax

5,149 posts

42 months

Friday 21st June
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I'm confused. A car on runflats had a puncture and immediately needed a new, non-matching tyre?

Lincsls1

3,503 posts

148 months

Friday 21st June
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As above, there isn't technically a problem, but it wouldn't do my OCD any favours either. biglaugh
Plenty of 2nd hand cars running around with different tyres on, but I wouldn't be doing it.


stevieturbo

17,545 posts

255 months

Friday 21st June
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AceKid said:
Hi all,
Recently fitted new Pirelli p zero PZ4 (runflats, 245/45/18 100Y XL) on the rear of our 2016 530d touring, literally done about 50miles since fitted. wife took the car up to Legoland today and suffered a puncture on route, she managed to get a new Pirelli fitted, but when she got home I see its a P7 cinturato and 96Y rated.
Question is, other than playing with my OCD, will this cause any issues?
And is the new tyre a runflat ?

AceKid

Original Poster:

289 posts

63 months

Friday 21st June
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stevieturbo said:
And is the new tyre a runflat ?
Should have said, yep new one is a runflat too, apparently she went to ATS first and they just wanted to fit a cheap non runflat, at least she didn't agree to that.

AceKid

Original Poster:

289 posts

63 months

Friday 21st June
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Panamax said:
I'm confused. A car on runflats had a puncture and immediately needed a new, non-matching tyre?
Nothing confusing, it got an unrepairable puncture and as with any tyre it needed replacing, she was told they were fitting a P zero, but once home I saw it was a P7 instead. If she had been local, then it would have come home and I would have ordered up the correct replacement to go on, but as she was a good few hours from home, she had to get it sorted there and then

Panamax

5,149 posts

42 months

Friday 21st June
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AceKid said:
Nothing confusing, it got an unrepairable puncture and as with any tyre it needed replacing, she was told they were fitting a P zero, but once home I saw it was a P7 instead.
You've missed my point. It's a runflat, so why couldn't she drive home on it?

AceKid

Original Poster:

289 posts

63 months

Friday 21st June
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Panamax said:
You've missed my point. It's a runflat, so why couldn't she drive home on it?
As I said in my reply, she was a good few hours from home, and when runflats are meant for a max of 50mph and 50 miles, that wasn't an option

wyson

2,793 posts

112 months

Friday 21st June
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Might not be good in extremis.

Depends on how much risk you are willing to take.

I’m sure you know the recommendation is, matching tyres on all four corners. Then matching tyres across axles. I’ve tried cars with all sorts of combinations. I’d get the same tyre on all four corners every time.

One hire car I drove with mismatched ditchfinders torque steered towards the tyre with less grip under heavy acceleration. My former Golf, its handling became unsettled with different matching pairs across front and rear axles. Couldn’t feel it driving around town, but an imbalance became clear with spirited driving on A roads. After crapping myself, I payed out for matching tyres on all corners pretty quickly.

I guess if you are just pootling around town, it would matter less? Personally would be worried if you spend a lot of time on the motorway or fast A roads. I wouldn’t want differing resistances to standing water at 80 mph unsettling the car for instance.

Edited by wyson on Saturday 22 June 06:53

Sheepshanks

35,145 posts

127 months

Friday 21st June
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Is it supposed to have XL (100 load index in this case) tyres?

E-bmw

10,013 posts

160 months

Saturday 22nd June
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Panamax said:
I'm confused. A car on runflats had a puncture and immediately needed a new, non-matching tyre?
Yes, that is what you are supposed to do.

They aren't called "run flat" so that you can keep driving on them.

E-bmw

10,013 posts

160 months

Saturday 22nd June
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I have to admit if it were me I would have ideally matching all 4 corners or a minimum of matching tyres front & matching tyres rear.

Having said that the load rating is maybe the bigger issue than the tyre type, as above does it need to be 100Y?

AceKid

Original Poster:

289 posts

63 months

Saturday 22nd June
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E-bmw said:
I have to admit if it were me I would have ideally matching all 4 corners or a minimum of matching tyres front & matching tyres rear.

Having said that the load rating is maybe the bigger issue than the tyre type, as above does it need to be 100Y?
I couldn't agree more about having matching tyres, but considering I just spent £400 on a pair of new tyres 2 weeks ago and then the wife has spent another £200 yesterday, I'm loath to spend yet again!

I checked the tyre spec sticker on the door shut, minimum rating is for 96Y on the 245/45/18 size, so at least its still ok

Smint

2,032 posts

43 months

Saturday 22nd June
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Family Golf suffered a ruined tyre, front one of almost new Goodyears, sub standard tyre (can't remember the make, Chinese) fitted in a hurry, owner hasn't noticed any handling issues but what is noticeable is how quickly the new tyre is wearing compared to its opposite.


Chris32345

2,116 posts

70 months

Saturday 22nd June
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Panamax said:
I'm confused. A car on runflats had a puncture and immediately needed a new, non-matching tyre?
Unless you I've driven like 100m a run flat driven on flat need replacing
Many places refuse to repair them as well

Panamax

5,149 posts

42 months

Saturday 22nd June
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E-bmw said:
Yes, that is what you are supposed to do.
Only if you believe the guff pumped out by people keen to sell you another £250 tyre at the first sniff of trouble. I've driven on punctured runflats and had them repaired, with full tilt vulcanised repairs as may be necessary. The tyres suffer no damage at all if you keep them sensibly inflated.

When the tyre fitter removes the tyre he can see from the condition of the inside of the tyre wall whether the tyre, conventional or runflat, has been knackered by being driven "flat". It's one of the reasons why "plug repairs" are frowned upon in Europe. There's no point sticking an external plug in a tyre with knackered sidewalls.

AceKid

Original Poster:

289 posts

63 months

Saturday 22nd June
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Panamax said:
Only if you believe the guff pumped out by people keen to sell you another £250 tyre at the first sniff of trouble. I've driven on punctured runflats and had them repaired, with full tilt vulcanised repairs as may be necessary. The tyres suffer no damage at all if you keep them sensibly inflated.

When the tyre fitter removes the tyre he can see from the condition of the inside of the tyre wall whether the tyre, conventional or runflat, has been knackered by being driven "flat". It's one of the reasons why "plug repairs" are frowned upon in Europe. There's no point sticking an external plug in a tyre with knackered sidewalls.
The above is great, but if you are over 150 miles from home and need to get it sorted the same day within the area that you are, then you have to make do with what you can get. If she had been local, then I would have said drive home and then have time to ring around and try other options, but that wasn't the case.

InitialDave

12,294 posts

127 months

Saturday 22nd June
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AceKid said:
Hi all,
wife took the car up to Legoland today and suffered a puncture
Christ, I thought stepping on one barefoot was bad enough!

E-bmw

10,013 posts

160 months

Sunday 23rd June
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Panamax said:
E-bmw said:
Yes, that is what you are supposed to do.
Only if you believe the guff pumped out by people keen to sell you another £250 tyre at the first sniff of trouble. I've driven on punctured runflats and had them repaired, with full tilt vulcanised repairs as may be necessary. The tyres suffer no damage at all if you keep them sensibly inflated.
You can't keep a flat tyre "sensibly inflated" you are talking about having a puncture, I am talking about the tyre being flat, which is what I assumed was the OP's case due to needing a new tyre.

Panamax said:
When the tyre fitter removes the tyre he can see from the condition of the inside of the tyre wall whether the tyre, conventional or runflat, has been knackered by being driven "flat".
Yes, they can, but lots won't take the chance in case there is "invisible tyre carcass damage" whatever that is.