Gen 3 Glass Coat

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Waynester

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6,337 posts

250 months

Friday 27th December 2013
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Picking up an ST-2 Focus next Tuesday. Purchased from a main dealer.
It's a '57 plate EO ST, low miles..25k.
I'm having the Gen 3 Glass Coat applied to the bodywork/paint. Any views on this, anyone else had it applied?
Advertising blurb sounds good.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Friday 27th December 2013
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You'll certainly have made the dealer happy anyway.

Kev T360

366 posts

151 months

Friday 27th December 2013
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How much extra did you pay? A dealer near me charges about £400 for something similar, but the material cost is only £30 pounds or so (so I'm told).

Waynester

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250 months

Friday 27th December 2013
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Hmm..£299, it was an option...the guy was a good salesman.
Now I know that, is it any good??

PhillipM

6,518 posts

189 months

Friday 27th December 2013
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Like anything, only as good as the prep and the guy putting it on. Which at a dealer probably involved a trainee apprentice and a soapy brush.

Waynester

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250 months

Friday 27th December 2013
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Doesn't sound very encouraging.. I have put a deposit on this ST, but have yet to view. So if has been applied by an under 8 toilet attendant..I will walk away.
The guy said they treat most of their cars and it's very professional. It's a VW dealership in Derby.

lexusboy

1,099 posts

143 months

Saturday 28th December 2013
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Waynester said:
Doesn't sound very encouraging.. I have put a deposit on this ST, but have yet to view. So if has been applied by an under 8 toilet attendant..I will walk away.
The guy said they treat most of their cars and it's very professional. It's a VW dealership in Derby.
Salesman's wet dream you are by the sounds of it

Bezerk

391 posts

159 months

Saturday 28th December 2013
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This is a paint sealant priced at the lower end of the Market.
It does indeed cost £29.99 for the entire kit.

No idea what it is like, but you are just paying for it to be applied over swirly paintwork, so it's a bit pointless.


Tony Starks

2,104 posts

212 months

Saturday 28th December 2013
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If you're spending that much at least take your money to someone like KDS or Miracle Detail to get G-techniq/Modesta/Carpro/Geyon or Polish Angel Cosmic applied.

It will last longer, look better and will have a much better warranty.

I applied Opticoat 2.0 to my old car and it really did reduce wash marring and was going strong for over 18 months despite me using wheel acid to remove some really bad water spots.


Waynester

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Saturday 28th December 2013
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Tony Starks said:
If you're spending that much at least take your money to someone like KDS or Miracle Detail to get G-techniq/Modesta/Carpro/Geyon or Polish Angel Cosmic applied.

It will last longer, look better and will have a much better warranty.

I applied Opticoat 2.0 to my old car and it really did reduce wash marring and was going strong for over 18 months despite me using wheel acid to remove some really bad water spots.
This has a supposed 5 year warranty.. and it's a little late now.
Appreciate the useful information though.

Edited by Waynester on Saturday 28th December 05:24

22Rgt

3,575 posts

127 months

Saturday 28th December 2013
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A far better finish can be achieved doing it yourself. Wash and dry the car and first cut the paintwork back using 3M Finesse It, this is an extremely fine cut and will leave the paint glass like removing any swirl marks. Next use a good quality Carnauba wax like R222 Concours wax, very easy to apply and buff off, will leave the paint looking superb. The FinesseIt is around £15 for 1L and the Carnauba £35 a tub.
Audi and many other dealers offer so called paint treatment but its only using products which will generally be found in your local motor factors. On any used car paint will have swirl marks to some degree and the finished result is all in the prep and chances are cheaper polishes and wax containing fillers will be used to disguise swirls rather than doing the job properly.

Escort3500

11,896 posts

145 months

Saturday 28th December 2013
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22Rgt said:
A far better finish can be achieved doing it yourself. Wash and dry the car and first cut the paintwork back using 3M Finesse It, this is an extremely fine cut and will leave the paint glass like removing any swirl marks. Next use a good quality Carnauba wax like R222 Concours wax, very easy to apply and buff off, will leave the paint looking superb. The FinesseIt is around £15 for 1L and the Carnauba £35 a tub.
Audi and many other dealers offer so called paint treatment but its only using products which will generally be found in your local motor factors. On any used car paint will have swirl marks to some degree and the finished result is all in the prep and chances are cheaper polishes and wax containing fillers will be used to disguise swirls rather than doing the job properly.
Good advice here, and even worth considering buying a DA polisher to make the task easier (use with care). Or take the car to a detailer for paint correction that will probably be similar money to the treatment the dealer's offering but will, critically, get rid of the swirls. Good luck.

Tony Starks

2,104 posts

212 months

Saturday 28th December 2013
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Waynester said:
This has a supposed 5 year warranty.. and it's a little late now.
Appreciate the useful information though.

Edited by Waynester on Saturday 28th December 05:24
My Dad had a dealer applied coating applied once and he's very particular about following instructions. For some reason the bonnet wasn't as glossy as the rest of the car and despite only using the approved shampoo they refused to honour the warranty and reckoned he must have used something else. How could you prove otherwise??

These offerings really are the dealers bread and butter, along with GAP insurance etc

Tony Starks

2,104 posts

212 months

Saturday 28th December 2013
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Escort3500 said:
Good advice here, and even worth considering buying a DA polisher to make the task easier (use with care). Or take the car to a detailer for paint correction that will probably be similar money to the treatment the dealer's offering but will, critically, get rid of the swirls. Good luck.
whilst I agree, I personally think the money you'd spend on buying a polisher, pads, polishes and waxes would be better off spent paying someone else to do the work and apply a decent 9H coating and then just buy the recommend shampoo and a decent mitt and and drying towel.

Unless you have several weekends and enjoying doing it yourself the go for it.

I've been in the UK detailing scene pretty much from day one and I think too many people place a lot of emphasis on having to buy everything available, when you could just buy a couple of things and borrow the rest.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Saturday 28th December 2013
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It does a good job, although a Detailer may have done it for less, still you live and learn, don't worry though you ain't wasted your money.