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i dont think a top up should needed every year but an annual inspection is a good idea if you want to preserve the car after your initial full underbody job. Go checking for scabs where the old seal has come away or water has somehow gotten underneath and lifted it.
grind those bubbles and scabs back to a bare metal feathered edge (i use a 115mm 80 grit flap disc on an angle grinder with ear defenders and glasses) then degrease the area, etch prime it and after 24 hours just blow over the local area with some Wurth Shutz underseal. Wurth do their own degreaser solvent but its not easy to find in the UK.
in the past I used Hammerite Stone shield which goes on nice is cheap but unfortunately is not that tough and it cracks and flakes away easily after 2 years......buy the best materials you can is really my advice.
grind those bubbles and scabs back to a bare metal feathered edge (i use a 115mm 80 grit flap disc on an angle grinder with ear defenders and glasses) then degrease the area, etch prime it and after 24 hours just blow over the local area with some Wurth Shutz underseal. Wurth do their own degreaser solvent but its not easy to find in the UK.
in the past I used Hammerite Stone shield which goes on nice is cheap but unfortunately is not that tough and it cracks and flakes away easily after 2 years......buy the best materials you can is really my advice.
thank you all.
I see lots of different makes on the interweb, would you recommend any more than others?
these on this site read quite good.
http://www.rust.co.uk/rust-proofing-underbody-waxe...
thanks
ian
I see lots of different makes on the interweb, would you recommend any more than others?
these on this site read quite good.
http://www.rust.co.uk/rust-proofing-underbody-waxe...
thanks
ian
Hi all, I have been giving this price from rust.co.uk, that will come in around £540, or spend £50 and have a go at doing it myself? Im sure there service will offer much more protection, but it is also a much bigger price tag!!
Hi Ian
We have done a few of these and they are usually in very good condition but have zero rust protection as the Japanese do not use salt. I would definitely recommend going for the full service.
Many thanks for your enquiry the cost of full rustproofing to your Nissan Elgrand will be £450 + vat using Rustbuster’s award winning Hot-fog Rust proofing method. Our unique rust proofing service is very popular if you want specific days please book well in advance.
This is what we do.
Our full rust proofing service includes undercarriage cleaning salt removal, rust conversion cavity injection and under body protection as per specification below but not additional welding or other repairs if required. The unique Rustbuster Hot Fog process takes one and a half days to complete to allow for removal of splash guards surface preparation and drying of rust stabilising converter. Undersides only can be completed on the same day. Our rustproofing slots run as follows. Monday am to Tuesday pm – Tuesday am to Wednesday pm – Thursday am to Friday pm.
The Rustbuster Hot Fog Process
Please compare our service offered with others out there, and ask them if they will do all of the following for you.
Hot High pressure Mossmatic cleaning with using Chlor-X salt remover.
Infra red and air blast drying.
Remove road wheels and masking of brakes and hubs.
Removal of any plastic inner arch guards. We do not remove painted plastic arch returns and skirts that form part of the bodywork. We do try to remove the plastic rivets carefully to re use them, any replaced fixings are billed to the customer.
Removal of any loose rust and old loose coatings.
Inspection of chassis/sub frames sills etc.for corrosion and rot. Any rot discovered requiring welding will be reported back to the customer prior to repairs being carried out. Pictures can be provided on a USB stick (£5 + vat). If you decide not to go ahead there will be charge to pay of 50% of the full quotation + vat
Surface rust is treated with Rustbuster FE-123 molecular rust converter.
Vehicle bodywork is masked in vinyl electrostatic wrap before spraying.
Cavities injected using a unique Canadian high pressure air mix Fogging method with Rustbuster High Performance cavity wax with RUSTOL tm additive.
Cavities includes; Chassis, sills, cross members, sub frames door bottoms, A,B and C pillars, bonnet and boot seams or hatch. Some areas are accessed directly with wet spray
others are accessed via fogging the wax, eg door tops and lock mechanisms would receive a fog whereas the door bottom and seams get a full wet coating. Tops of pillars are fogged etc.
Underbody coated with Rustbuster High Performance Black under body wax with added RUSTOL additive.
Plastic Arch guards and wheels replaced.
On dropping off the vehicle you will have signed for all of the above to be done to your vehicle. On completion, we will give you a certificate verifying that we have done all of the work in the schedule, you then get to keep both the certificate and the original schedule of works to go into your vehicle file. If you have maintained the after service intervals this can be passed onto a new owner to continue, increasing the re-sale value of your car.
Hi Ian
We have done a few of these and they are usually in very good condition but have zero rust protection as the Japanese do not use salt. I would definitely recommend going for the full service.
Many thanks for your enquiry the cost of full rustproofing to your Nissan Elgrand will be £450 + vat using Rustbuster’s award winning Hot-fog Rust proofing method. Our unique rust proofing service is very popular if you want specific days please book well in advance.
This is what we do.
Our full rust proofing service includes undercarriage cleaning salt removal, rust conversion cavity injection and under body protection as per specification below but not additional welding or other repairs if required. The unique Rustbuster Hot Fog process takes one and a half days to complete to allow for removal of splash guards surface preparation and drying of rust stabilising converter. Undersides only can be completed on the same day. Our rustproofing slots run as follows. Monday am to Tuesday pm – Tuesday am to Wednesday pm – Thursday am to Friday pm.
The Rustbuster Hot Fog Process
Please compare our service offered with others out there, and ask them if they will do all of the following for you.
Hot High pressure Mossmatic cleaning with using Chlor-X salt remover.
Infra red and air blast drying.
Remove road wheels and masking of brakes and hubs.
Removal of any plastic inner arch guards. We do not remove painted plastic arch returns and skirts that form part of the bodywork. We do try to remove the plastic rivets carefully to re use them, any replaced fixings are billed to the customer.
Removal of any loose rust and old loose coatings.
Inspection of chassis/sub frames sills etc.for corrosion and rot. Any rot discovered requiring welding will be reported back to the customer prior to repairs being carried out. Pictures can be provided on a USB stick (£5 + vat). If you decide not to go ahead there will be charge to pay of 50% of the full quotation + vat
Surface rust is treated with Rustbuster FE-123 molecular rust converter.
Vehicle bodywork is masked in vinyl electrostatic wrap before spraying.
Cavities injected using a unique Canadian high pressure air mix Fogging method with Rustbuster High Performance cavity wax with RUSTOL tm additive.
Cavities includes; Chassis, sills, cross members, sub frames door bottoms, A,B and C pillars, bonnet and boot seams or hatch. Some areas are accessed directly with wet spray
others are accessed via fogging the wax, eg door tops and lock mechanisms would receive a fog whereas the door bottom and seams get a full wet coating. Tops of pillars are fogged etc.
Underbody coated with Rustbuster High Performance Black under body wax with added RUSTOL additive.
Plastic Arch guards and wheels replaced.
On dropping off the vehicle you will have signed for all of the above to be done to your vehicle. On completion, we will give you a certificate verifying that we have done all of the work in the schedule, you then get to keep both the certificate and the original schedule of works to go into your vehicle file. If you have maintained the after service intervals this can be passed onto a new owner to continue, increasing the re-sale value of your car.
Mine was done by the importer when it landed so unsure of costs as it wasn't itemised but I have heard quotes of £900 ish to do a Skyline. In the above they don't say about removing the exhaust unless their "fog" is the way of covering the hidden area's without removing.
Off topic but amusing
https://www.landcruiserclub.net/community/threads/...
Off topic but amusing
https://www.landcruiserclub.net/community/threads/...
TwistingMyMelon said:
Disgusting , filthy , messy , horrid job, I would pay someone tbh!
If you fancy keeping the car a long time then pay the quote tbh
It's not.... if you got the proper gear and can get your car high enough so its easier to work on it.If you fancy keeping the car a long time then pay the quote tbh
Edited by bagusbagus on Monday 20th March 15:06
Get some Bilt Hamber Dynax, comes in great big aerosol cans with a long bendy injection lance, use S50 for inside cavities and UB for underneath, nice and easy.
One of the guys on the BMW 5 Series forum had his M5 done by the Rust people, they literally coated the entire underside of the car including all the aluminium suspension components, heat shields, diff, driveshafts in black underseal. that will be a fun car to work on....
One of the guys on the BMW 5 Series forum had his M5 done by the Rust people, they literally coated the entire underside of the car including all the aluminium suspension components, heat shields, diff, driveshafts in black underseal. that will be a fun car to work on....
Edited by lufbramatt on Monday 20th March 15:08
Nene Overland the expedition preparation people do rustproofing. Another guy who regularly advertises in Land Rover magazines is this guy with his War and peace style adverts:
http://www.before-n-after.co.uk/
http://www.before-n-after.co.uk/
vikingaero said:
Nene Overland the expedition preparation people do rustproofing. Another guy who regularly advertises in Land Rover magazines is this guy with his War and peace style adverts:
http://www.before-n-after.co.uk/
The 'sole rustproofing specialist since 1987' which is aparantly the last time they updated their website, jesus that design reminds me of the bad old days, half expected to hear the modem firing up as I navigate between pages. http://www.before-n-after.co.uk/
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