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The E36 has always been my favourite overall, but I really want the F80 for its performance.
E30...too slow/only a 4 cylinder.
E36...just right for me and I've always been a fan.
E46...a horrible engine noise for me/a tad overrated.
E92...too heavy/too cruiser/poor torque to weight.
F80...awesome performance and torque/questionable noise.
E30...too slow/only a 4 cylinder.
E36...just right for me and I've always been a fan.
E46...a horrible engine noise for me/a tad overrated.
E92...too heavy/too cruiser/poor torque to weight.
F80...awesome performance and torque/questionable noise.
Definitely number 6.
E30 Never driven but I imagine would feel very outdated.
E36 quick enough but a bit meh
E46 Maybe I only drove bottom of the market ones when I was in the market last and ended up with my 350z but I wasn't impressed.
F80 I couldn't put up with the racket they make and don't want a diesel like power delivery
E92 An engine you have to spank that rewards you for doing it, comes back for more and sounds glorious doing it
E30 Never driven but I imagine would feel very outdated.
E36 quick enough but a bit meh
E46 Maybe I only drove bottom of the market ones when I was in the market last and ended up with my 350z but I wasn't impressed.
F80 I couldn't put up with the racket they make and don't want a diesel like power delivery
E92 An engine you have to spank that rewards you for doing it, comes back for more and sounds glorious doing it
Worth watching the really great Carfection videos about all the generations of M3:
Part 1 E30 M3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAcSYTuzst0
Part 2 E36 M3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-JFmjxu8f4
Part 3 E46 M3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ifIha9vAc
Part 4 E92 M3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVY-70icub4
Part 5 F80 M4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdvZvjrZqIU
Part 6 Which is best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiqdUW2JyBE
Part 1 E30 M3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAcSYTuzst0
Part 2 E36 M3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-JFmjxu8f4
Part 3 E46 M3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ifIha9vAc
Part 4 E92 M3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVY-70icub4
Part 5 F80 M4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdvZvjrZqIU
Part 6 Which is best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiqdUW2JyBE
chow pan toon said:
Definitely number 6.
E30 Never driven but I imagine would feel very outdated.
E36 quick enough but a bit meh
E46 Maybe I only drove bottom of the market ones when I was in the market last and ended up with my 350z but I wasn't impressed.
F80 I couldn't put up with the racket they make and don't want a diesel like power delivery
E92 An engine you have to spank that rewards you for doing it, comes back for more and sounds glorious doing it
Clearly hasn’t driven an F80.E30 Never driven but I imagine would feel very outdated.
E36 quick enough but a bit meh
E46 Maybe I only drove bottom of the market ones when I was in the market last and ended up with my 350z but I wasn't impressed.
F80 I couldn't put up with the racket they make and don't want a diesel like power delivery
E92 An engine you have to spank that rewards you for doing it, comes back for more and sounds glorious doing it
cerb4.5lee said:
The E36 has always been my favourite overall, but I really want the F80 for its performance.
E30...too slow/only a 4 cylinder.
E36...just right for me and I've always been a fan.
E46...a horrible engine noise for me/a tad overrated.
E92...too heavy/too cruiser/poor torque to weight.
F80...awesome performance and torque/questionable noise.
You know the E92 has the second highest torque to weight ratio right?E30...too slow/only a 4 cylinder.
E36...just right for me and I've always been a fan.
E46...a horrible engine noise for me/a tad overrated.
E92...too heavy/too cruiser/poor torque to weight.
F80...awesome performance and torque/questionable noise.
Leon R said:
You know the E92 has the second highest torque to weight ratio right?
Yes and I personally thought that the torque to weight ratio was poor compared to other cars I'd had that's all. 295 ib/ft is plenty in fairness in isolation. I've always blamed the torque...but I guess that the real problem is max power being at 8300rpm and that makes it feel so weak lower down in the revs.
I would love that engine in a much lighter car without question though. The S65 engine in the the E30 M3 would be right up my street!
Edited by cerb4.5lee on Saturday 10th August 10:01
As time has gone by I'm now really warming to the E9x M3 again though, and my mistake was using it as a daily. On my commute it just led to massive frustration for me(17mpg and not being able to use the performance).
I'm very tempted now with a E93 M3 as an occasional car though, because you can really enjoy the engine/exhaust noise with the roof down. The Coupe is very muted in the cabin exhaust wise but you do get the lovely induction noise though for sure.
I'm very tempted now with a E93 M3 as an occasional car though, because you can really enjoy the engine/exhaust noise with the roof down. The Coupe is very muted in the cabin exhaust wise but you do get the lovely induction noise though for sure.
bmwmike said:
Is it just me, or does anyone else find torque comments strange ? After all that's what gearboxes are for. Lack of power can be a legit complaint. Lack of torque though hmm, really? Or is the issue really down to poorly matched gearing to engine revs?
Yes, but Lee has form for that POV and I've told him he's wrong many times, but don't bother now. I never thought the S65 was lacking at any RPM as the gear box sorts that out as you say, the S65 was a very tractable engine with incredibly long legs and a razor sharp response thanks to those 8 ITBs, just tickling it in 3rd from 3k was a joy to me.
When I had my frozen silver edition there was another one local to me (only made a 100 for the UK) and he still has it and every time I see it I wish I still had mine.
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