Tiger seal bonding a spoiler on?

[chan61922]

Right guys got my hands on a Carbon fibre Oettinger style spoiler for my golf R. Seems a lot of people are happy to 3m tape it, I was also considering this as I like the idea of it being reversible should I change my mind or when I come round to selling car. Only problem is I worry it might fly off or some toe rag might pinch of my car, seeing as it’s a boy racers wet dream.

Been recommended tiger seal, anyone had much luck using but for such purpose? Does it last, is it strong? Is it reversible at all? Would it be a nightmare removing spoiler off should I have a change in heart? And finally what colour do I go for- Black, white or grey? And what’s the differences between them all?

Many thanks

[Matt_E_Mulsion]

Personally I'd bond it on with Tiger Seal or Sikaflex rather than tape it. You shouldn't be able to see any of the sealant but I'd use black just in case.

[steveo3002]

tiger seal is the proper gear for the job , if you ordered a spoiler from the main dealer chances are it comes with a tube of this

almost no chance of getting it off easily once dried , it wont peel off the original paint so make sure its what you want

would need taping down and parking somewhere at room temps for a couple of days ideally at this time of year

[chan61922]

Cheers for responses guys, so the colour differences in product are purely just different colours nothing else? no material type or strength difference etc? I’m half worried to do it now as it a permanent fix, the cars black and the spoilers carbon, ideally I should’ve went for a gloss black hmmm. Unfortunately I don’t have room for the car in my garage, so would be left outdoors- I’d obviously avoid a rainy day etc but would it be okay if I did one morning and left for 12 hours or so? Where can I source this stuff Halfords, ECP?

[steveo3002]

otherwise known as pu sealer /polyurethane sealer ...id grab it from ebay , im sure any car spares place will have it

there will be a cure time and temp on the packet ...personally i wouldnt expect it to go off in a hurry at these winter temps

[steveo3002]

3mm bead takes 24hrs at 23deg c

https://www.u-pol.com/files/7655/tignb-TDS-EN-UK

[Matt_E_Mulsion]

Sit it on the car and make sure you are happy with the carbon look before you go any further. You are going to have to park the car up for at least 24hrs preferably in a garage to allow the sealer to go off. Don't cut corners or it'll end up biting you on the backside and what was once a straightforward job will turn into a messy nightmare.

[chan61922]

Thanks for input guys, there’s no way I’ll be able to keep it indoors, once applied would going round with my trusty pet dryer be of any help in the drying process? It’s not a problem leaving the car sat for 24 hours and I’d probably tape it down so it holds once the tigers applied, but the garage is a right mess would take hours clearing it up. I will trial fit it with some double sided tape or pads and see how I feel about it before I commit. Also purchased the carbon mirrors to match up with the spoiler so I’ve already half committed, d’oh!

[steveo3002]

id wait until spring , 10 mins with a pet dryer doesnt equal 23 degs for 24 hrs

if you have to crack on , then try a test bead on some scrap parts and leave it stood outside overnight , if its gone like hard rubber then yeah its cured

[Matt_E_Mulsion]

If it was me then in your circumstances i wouldn't bother fitting it at this time of year, in these cold temperatures. Wait until the weather warms up, even if that's now spring time.

[Alfa Pete]

Heat will help but only so far. These products are mostly cured by moisture in the atmosphere so you would still need to leave it overnight ideally.
Sikaflex is the original pu adhesive.
They offer stronger grades such as 252 and 260, which are thicker and have more initial “grab” which may secure it a little quicker.
The most important part of the process is the prep. Everything need to be degreased and contamination free. Use isopropyl alcohol or their own cleaner.
I was a Sika tech many years ago so feel free to ask more if unsure.

[anonymous-user]

You have a Golf R and don't put it in the garage???? Mental.

[chan61922]

Haha hardly a Ferrari mate. Bought some tiger seal Black this morning along with some paint prep degreasing type wipes from Halfords. Decided I’m going to give the car a nice wash as it’s filthy and then degrease roof area and just go for it. I’ll tape it down once Donegal around with a pet dryer and then I’ll probably let the car sit for at least 24hours or so before moving. I figured due to the nature of the spoilers design any wind will pass through its gaps and hopefully some down force of wind pressure can only help it attach further down onto the body, provided a link of what the Exactly spoiler in question, what you guys think? Is my theory correct? Or is it a recipe for disaster??


https://www.ultimatecustomsuk.com/products/golf-mk...

[Blanco92]

Got a boot lip spoiler on my A6 from eBay.de. Came supplied with 3m double sided tape. It’s into its 11th year of being attached to the car.

I know you want to protect your car (or just the spoiler) from toe rag thieves but if they want it enough they’ll have it anyway. The only variable is how much damage they do in the process. When the S3 aluminium mirrors were stolen off mine they didn’t unplug the connections, just snipped the whole lot.

[Matt_E_Mulsion]

You really need to key up the areas of which you want the Tiger Seal to adhere to. It may sound drastic but once the sealer touches it you're past the point of no return anyway. If you choose not to key it, it'll never be adhered as good as it could.

[thatsprettyshady]

3m tape is fine, grab a bottle of "Adhesive Promoter" on Amazon if you're worried about losing it.

[chan61922]

Adhesive promotor? Is that like a glue of some sort? Wow 11 years and still going strong, pretty impressive mate. Is yours a lip or a spoiler? Can see 3m being fine with a lip, a proper spoiler might need abit more encouragement I think? Why on earth would someone steel your chrome mirror caps, here’s me replacing mine with carbon ones to match up with the carbon spoiler, there only 20/30 quid used lol what does mark up mean? I assume you mean just trail fit it and mark a point with masking tape on either Edge? There’s actually a trim line on the roof which is also on the spoiler so I think if I line that up correct on both sides I shouldn’t be far off

[Alfa Pete]

Adhesion promoter is normally some type of iso propyly alcohol.
Sometimes has a few other ingredients which activates and clean but tends to be a clear wipe on and leave to evaporate type product .

[chan61922]

Ah gotcha mate, I popped into ECP yesterday and screw to source some isopropyl and no joy, seems like amazon and eBay is the place to get them. I got these wipes from Halfords however, states it cleans, de greases and de contaminates, provided a Link


https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet...


Any good for the task at hand you think?

[thatsprettyshady]

Alfa Pete said:

Adhesion promoter is normally some type of iso propyly alcohol.
Sometimes has a few other ingredients which activates and clean but tends to be a clear wipe on and leave to evaporate type product .

Here you go:

3M blurb said:

What is 3m adhesion promoter?
3M™ Adhesion Promoter 06396 is a liquid primer used to improve the adhesion of. 3M™ Automotive Attachment Tapes to most low surface energy plastic materials as well as injection- molded body side moldings and claddings used for automotive exterior trims.

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/305552O/3m-prom...