Ceramic coatings
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Yes its cheap as chips but i've been coating the cab of my now 16 month old 160,000 kms tractor unit with Car Plan No1 Super Gloss..
Have coated it 3 times i think, takes about 20 mins, because its a food bulk tanker i wash it sometimes every day, never left more than 3 days, with standard TFR and a soft long handled brush for agitation, the paint only needs the chemical maybe once a week because dirt doesn't stick the same as to untreated paint but the windows mirrors and wheels do so the paint still sees TFR overspray.
Comparing the paint to the other vehicles on fleet of similar age its still shiny and damage free, is soft to run your fingers over where the others feel almost matt and there's no brush marks and water still beading well.
For something thats costs around a tenner for a bottle that will do the job several times call me impressed, its also forgiving of my very amateurish attempts.
Dare say this is not quite what the experts here would use, but sometimes these cheap alternatives can surprise.
Have coated it 3 times i think, takes about 20 mins, because its a food bulk tanker i wash it sometimes every day, never left more than 3 days, with standard TFR and a soft long handled brush for agitation, the paint only needs the chemical maybe once a week because dirt doesn't stick the same as to untreated paint but the windows mirrors and wheels do so the paint still sees TFR overspray.
Comparing the paint to the other vehicles on fleet of similar age its still shiny and damage free, is soft to run your fingers over where the others feel almost matt and there's no brush marks and water still beading well.
For something thats costs around a tenner for a bottle that will do the job several times call me impressed, its also forgiving of my very amateurish attempts.
Dare say this is not quite what the experts here would use, but sometimes these cheap alternatives can surprise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhLTNii5HWg
This chap can speed talk with the best of them but skip to the red dot mark near the end and the scores are all listed you can freeze on.
This chap can speed talk with the best of them but skip to the red dot mark near the end and the scores are all listed you can freeze on.
Deviation said:
DoubleSix said:
CarPro C Quartz
I won t be bothering with wax again
It s very good as an entry level product but not at all hydrophobic, and you need to let it cure away from the elements, so may not be ideal if you don t have a garage I won t be bothering with wax again
It’s part of a system of course and beads up as well any other ive used iver the years.
Dave Hedgehog said:
thats all i need
There are lots of good ones. It sounds like application is your main issue, so you could use Bilt Hamber Touch On through a foam lance which will last between each wash. It does however make the windows a bit smeary if you use in the sun, so would require cleaning each time.
Another option is something like Collinite Beadcoat, which is ridiculously easy to apply:
- Saturate a microfibre cloth
- Wipe on
- Buff off with another clean one
- Per panel at a time, flip buff cloth regularly
Isn’t grabby or horrible to apply like some spray sealants.
Equally Gtechniq Liquid Crystal is silly easy to apply and more readily available.
Smint said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhLTNii5HWg
This chap can speed talk with the best of them but skip to the red dot mark near the end and the scores are all listed you can freeze on.
The Gthechniq looks good, £45 ish. This chap can speed talk with the best of them but skip to the red dot mark near the end and the scores are all listed you can freeze on.
DoubleSix said:
It needs care upon application for sure. But not sure I agree with not at all hydrophobic !
It s part of a system of course and beads up as well any other ive used iver the years.
As you describe, CQuartz UK is part of a system, and its Reload which adds the hydrophobicity. It s part of a system of course and beads up as well any other ive used iver the years.
By comparison, I’ve just put Crystal Serum Ultra on my 340i and it is ridiculously hydrophobic on its own - I then topped it with Exo which is even more silly, and water nearly jumps right back at you
I’ve used CQUK on a few cars and without an additional layer, I’ve never found it to be noticeably more hydrophobic than a car which doesn’t have any protection on it. Water beads on it when stationary, but it doesn’t sling off the car like with Exo, for example.
My old 135i has CQUK on it and I still wash the car from time to time, since it’s owned by a family friend. When washing and rinsing, it’s completely flat until I top it back up with whichever sealant I apply.
after watching quite a few videos i went with Hybrid Solutions Ceramic 3-in-1 Detailer, can be used on a dry dirty car, and as easy to apply as any of the others, once a month application should suffice, £10 a bottle with first order discount seams reasonable
https://www.turtlewax.co.uk/products/hybrid-soluti...
https://www.turtlewax.co.uk/products/hybrid-soluti...
Dave Hedgehog said:
after watching quite a few videos i went with Hybrid Solutions Ceramic 3-in-1 Detailer, can be used on a dry dirty car, and as easy to apply as any of the others, once a month application should suffice, £10 a bottle with first order discount seams reasonable
https://www.turtlewax.co.uk/products/hybrid-soluti...
How can you apply something to car you haven’t washed… and then start rubbing it? A recipe for disaster, surely. https://www.turtlewax.co.uk/products/hybrid-soluti...
Legacywr said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
after watching quite a few videos i went with Hybrid Solutions Ceramic 3-in-1 Detailer, can be used on a dry dirty car, and as easy to apply as any of the others, once a month application should suffice, £10 a bottle with first order discount seams reasonable
https://www.turtlewax.co.uk/products/hybrid-soluti...
How can you apply something to car you haven t washed and then start rubbing it? A recipe for disaster, surely. https://www.turtlewax.co.uk/products/hybrid-soluti...
These "shortcuts" to cleaning cars really make my teeth itch, may as well go to your local money laundering centres for them to apply scratches on your behalf.
Its better to do a job properly. Prep the car properly and cleaning will be easier, faster and do less damage.
I have our cars professionally ceramic coated when new, it then takes no more than 60 minutes to thoroughly wash and shine the car (ceramic detailers are great for this). When I took a 4 year old car to We Buy AnyCar they said they rarely seen cars that old with such good paintwork.
Legacywr said:
I have to ask, are these not just snake oil. Do they really offer more protection than other, well established, polishes?
Genuine question, and not meaning to start an argument
I’ve seen a couple of people post on different forums, where they say they’ve paid £100’s for ceramic coating, with a 5 year guarantee… but they have to keep topping it up by reapplying it…
I have asked the ‘snake oil’ question to a professional valeter and trouble shooter of good quality stock, at a small ‘ independent’. The answer was a bit of a yes and no. Yes, in the case that the coatings bought time and protected paint to a degree from eg sap and bird droppings. They make the car easier to wash. However , if as many PH members do, if you clean your car on a regular basis, then no.Genuine question, and not meaning to start an argument
I’ve seen a couple of people post on different forums, where they say they’ve paid £100’s for ceramic coating, with a 5 year guarantee… but they have to keep topping it up by reapplying it…
Lester H said:
Legacywr said:
I have to ask, are these not just snake oil. Do they really offer more protection than other, well established, polishes?
Genuine question, and not meaning to start an argument
I ve seen a couple of people post on different forums, where they say they ve paid £100 s for ceramic coating, with a 5 year guarantee but they have to keep topping it up by reapplying it
I have asked the snake oil question to a professional valeter and trouble shooter of good quality stock, at a small independent . The answer was a bit of a yes and no. Yes, in the case that the coatings bought time and protected paint to a degree from eg sap and bird droppings. They make the car easier to wash. However , if as many PH members do, if you clean your car on a regular basis, then no.Genuine question, and not meaning to start an argument
I ve seen a couple of people post on different forums, where they say they ve paid £100 s for ceramic coating, with a 5 year guarantee but they have to keep topping it up by reapplying it
I get that the guys who spend many £100’s getting their paint corrected and CC’d are seeing the benefit of the correction, not the CC.
I’ve seen several posts on sites where the owner says the coating they’ve just paid for is guaranteed for years, but they have to keep topping it up…
Noticeably easier to clean a car with a ceramic coating. So it looks good with less effort and the shine is better than an uncoated car. Contaminants don’t stick as much.
Our current cars are all coated the best IMO is Gyeon, the gloss is astounding. Carbon Collective and Pyramid are about the same. Gteq with Exeo on top was ok too.
Hydrophobocity best with Gyeon second is Pyramid.
Our current cars are all coated the best IMO is Gyeon, the gloss is astounding. Carbon Collective and Pyramid are about the same. Gteq with Exeo on top was ok too.
Hydrophobocity best with Gyeon second is Pyramid.
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