Selling a car privately - fun....

Selling a car privately - fun....

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Pommy

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14,252 posts

216 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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Am currently selling our Nissan Murano and what a pain in the arse it is proving to be. My previous experience selling cars private was decent, they went quickly and no timewasters. Not this one.

It was up in the $13's and now up at $11,950 - what I'm really enjoying is getting email after email asking me if I'd take $8000 or $7000. No, can I see it, any further info, just straight up 1st email with a price offer.

Is everyone a chance or a dealer trying it on?! 'yes, sure mate I'd love to take 60% of what I was asking'

All I'm missing is an 'innit bruv' to the emails.

If anyone is keen on a straight, well maintained clean SUV do get in touch hehe


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Bibbs

3,733 posts

210 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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The HSV was a ball ache to sell for similar reasons. Full of feral chancers giving it their all to mug someone.

The messages with just a price is a Gumtree thing I believe, under "make an offer". So it's not just them being rude.

It's the reason I ended up chopping it in at a dealer.

When is the 'stang arriving?

captain_cynic

11,998 posts

95 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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Certain cars attract certain types of buyers.

Never had an issue selling my Honda Civic, ended up selling it for $3500. Probably up to 500,000 KM and still going.

My Nissan 200sx... definitely attracted those kinds of buyers. Emails like "I'll give you $8,000 for it, you won't get a better offer". I just didn't bother responding to them. Very few actual tyre kickers turned up though, eventually I sold it for £12,000.

I'd still risk selling privately though, dealers will bend you over backwards (and I doubt they would have touched a modified S15).

Alternatively, have you thought of putting it up on EBAY with a $10,000 reserve (or whatever your lowest acceptable price is) and seeing if it sells at auction?

Jader1973

3,991 posts

200 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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A few years ago I sold our Falcon. It had a few battle scars but full Ford SH and below average km. Anyway, I advertised it for below market value because of the damage but was still inundated with offers of "I'll give you $2k cash and come and take it today.".

I ended up selling it for $500 less than I was asking to a cop who wanted something for his commute.

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

181 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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It’s a victimless crime though isn’t it Al? We can’t advertise in the PH classifieds, there’s no detriment and only about 5 people will see it. Seems unreasonable to me.

Jader1973

3,991 posts

200 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Google [bot] said:
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It’s a victimless crime though isn’t it Al? We can’t advertise in the PH classifieds, there’s no detriment and only about 5 people will see it. Seems unreasonable to me.
I agree, especially as other threads seem to be immune from the rules (i.e. the Best Smoker barges thread etc).

Pommy

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14,252 posts

216 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Hang on have just seen my ad been edited out.

Yeah let me just go post my ad for my car here in Australia -Big Al let me just post that in the Australia part of the cars for sales classified part. That doesn't exist.

Jeez.

Big Al.

68,853 posts

258 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Any link to ads/cars (ROP No.16) will get removed by routine, if we miss any on other threads then please report as we don't read every thread that is posted.

HTH explain.

Pommy

Original Poster:

14,252 posts

216 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Big Al. said:
Any link to ads/cars (ROP No.16) will get removed by routine, if we miss any on other threads then please report as we don't read every thread that is posted.

HTH explain.
It states there's a rule but makes absolutely no sense whatsoever given the geographic location I am in.

It's ridiculous.

If you left my ad up what's the impact to PH? What's the loss?



Edited by Pommy on Wednesday 6th February 11:44

Big Al.

68,853 posts

258 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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The rules are applied site wide and apply to all members regardless of their geographic location, there are no exceptions.

Jader1973

3,991 posts

200 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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Big Al. said:
Any link to ads/cars (ROP No.16) will get removed by routine, if we miss any on other threads then please report as we don't read every thread that is posted.

HTH explain.
Really?

“Any link to ads will get removed”?

Don’t you mean “Any link posted by the person selling the car”?

Because if you do really mean “any links” you’d better go have a look at the aforementioned “Best Smoker Barges” thread which is riddled with links to ads, and tbh isn’t hard to spot given it is always on page 1 of General Gassing.

HTH

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Pommy

Original Poster:

14,252 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Bibbs said:
The HSV was a ball ache to sell for similar reasons. Full of feral chancers giving it their all to mug someone.

The messages with just a price is a Gumtree thing I believe, under "make an offer". So it's not just them being rude.

It's the reason I ended up chopping it in at a dealer.

When is the 'stang arriving?
Sorry Ben missed this.

'Stang? Hmm not sure. I had the 17 on order and then canned that when the 18 was announced but that was up at $70k which I felt is too much - cancelled to think about it and at that time wife's work changed and decided just to ignore cars for a while.

Also work just went crazy which means I'd not have time to enjoy.

I'd be crying right now if I'd spent that given the depreciation.

Reckon actually going to spend 12-18 months plugging away at getting some cash in the bank then reassess as I will get something good but priorities changed right now.

So after 15 emails offering $8k on the Murano, 9 texts offering $8k and 2 viewings which ended with a 'we can only afford $8k' I've given up and will probably keep it.


Bibbs

3,733 posts

210 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Pommy said:
Sorry Ben missed this.

'Stang? Hmm not sure. I had the 17 on order and then canned that when the 18 was announced but that was up at $70k which I felt is too much - cancelled to think about it and at that time wife's work changed and decided just to ignore cars for a while.

Also work just went crazy which means I'd not have time to enjoy.

I'd be crying right now if I'd spent that given the depreciation.

Reckon actually going to spend 12-18 months plugging away at getting some cash in the bank then reassess as I will get something good but priorities changed right now.

So after 15 emails offering $8k on the Murano, 9 texts offering $8k and 2 viewings which ended with a 'we can only afford $8k' I've given up and will probably keep it.
I know what your mean about priorities.
I've just swapped jobs (only my 2nd since I've been here - now at a small finance company on the Esplanade), trying to sell property (and buy property) and generally consolidate.

Mustangs are pretty common now, $45k to get you a choice in the 2nd hand market. I think you are right that $70k is pushing it. But then if the HSVs were $100k who knows.

Surely it's easier to make sure your insurance is "$15k - agreed value" and then just drive it into the Swan?

Pommy

Original Poster:

14,252 posts

216 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Bibbs said:
Pommy said:
Sorry Ben missed this.

'Stang? Hmm not sure. I had the 17 on order and then canned that when the 18 was announced but that was up at $70k which I felt is too much - cancelled to think about it and at that time wife's work changed and decided just to ignore cars for a while.

Also work just went crazy which means I'd not have time to enjoy.

I'd be crying right now if I'd spent that given the depreciation.

Reckon actually going to spend 12-18 months plugging away at getting some cash in the bank then reassess as I will get something good but priorities changed right now.

So after 15 emails offering $8k on the Murano, 9 texts offering $8k and 2 viewings which ended with a 'we can only afford $8k' I've given up and will probably keep it.
I know what your mean about priorities.
I've just swapped jobs (only my 2nd since I've been here - now at a small finance company on the Esplanade), trying to sell property (and buy property) and generally consolidate.

Mustangs are pretty common now, $45k to get you a choice in the 2nd hand market. I think you are right that $70k is pushing it. But then if the HSVs were $100k who knows.

Surely it's easier to make sure your insurance is "$15k - agreed value" and then just drive it into the Swan?
Firstly, I work in the terrace (nr William St) so let let me know when you're free and we'll catch up for coffee or a katsu curry (Good one in the place under the ANZ building)

Secondly,yeah you're right about the first ones. They are good value I think but I really want the fancy dash in the 2nd gen hehe

Can't believe the 2nd hand values of things like FPV's and HSV's - some rose tinted applications going on methinks. Also, getting good rate finance on anything over 2-3 yrs old is a pain - anyone do sub 8% finance on a 5 yr old car?!

Pommy

Original Poster:

14,252 posts

216 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Thread update- the Murano sold - hurrah!

Was up at $11,950 and got $11,000.

After 10 weeks, 16 'I'll give you $8000 cash' email offers, 2 '$7500 cash and I'll take it today offers, 3 viewings where they offered $10,000 thankfully I had a decent bloke who was normal drive 1.5hrs and sent a text 2 days later offering the $11,000.

He was a gem of a buyer, easy to deal with and happens to be a Pom. He also came up from Mandurah on the train with $8000 cash in his pocket which I thought was a touch brave.

Few things to note:

- Esanda were a pain to deal with - 7 business days to receive payment, finalise and clear payment to have the car removed from security. 7 days in 2019 to sell a car clear of incumbence is ridiculous. Should be instant.

- Gumtree is a painful place to sell a car as even though the car was $11k even that felt too much for the platform to handle - everyone contacting from Gumtree was a timewaster and 'innit bruv' esque idiot.

- Carsales was definitely of a better experience as a seller. Felt like proper buyers.



So, now a she has an entirely set and forget, uninspiring 2012 Kia Rio 1.6 in the garage which is perfectly reasonable, but apparently 140bhp in 2019 is not nearly as much fun as 140bhp in 1999.

However I'll take the $2500 a year in running costs saving it bring.

motomk

2,150 posts

244 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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Friend just picked up one of the new Mustangs for $61k, last years plate, but brand new.

Rensko

237 posts

106 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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Scumtree is the worst/best for selling cars.

Pros - usually able to shift the car pretty quick, if you have a basic grasp of spelling/grammar and decent photos.

Cons - Lowballers, people wanting to view the car at 11pm at night.

StefanVXR8

3,603 posts

198 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Rensko said:
Scumtree is the worst/best for selling cars anything.

Pros - usually able to shift the car pretty quick, if you have a basic grasp of spelling/grammar and decent photos.

Cons - Lowballers, people wanting to view the car at 11pm at night.
EFA

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alabbasi

2,511 posts

87 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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It's a global phenomenon. We have the same problems here in the US. You'll find that if you agree to the 60%, they won't show up anyway because in reality, they don't have two nickels to rub together.

Jimmy No Hands

5,011 posts

156 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Sold our Pajero as we are leaving, '92 model with over 315,000 kms on the clock. Low end of the price spectrum due to age, mileage and lack of service history. Owned it five months without a hiccup, drive train fantastic. Son comes with his Mother, I implore them to spend as much time as they need, take a drive, get under it. I stated they were well within their rights to get an independent inspection if they wanted to. Car was advertised accurately, if anything I undersell as I have always done. No fluid use, no smoke. I am fairly acute and religious with routine maintenance checks. Happy with the condition and the drive, as they quite rightly should've been, so take the car then.

Comes knocking on the door after over FOUR AND A HALF WEEKS of owning the vehicle explaining the head had gone, and the garage has stated I must have known all along and have plotted to offload. Demands her money back or she will go to the police. laugh

Honestly, where do these people get off? I bought it from a local dealer, sans warranty, and I understand the risks I take with a near 30 year old vehicle that is well on the way to the moon.

Politely told her to fk off.