Discussion
downr said:
Maybe we could have a poll - would readers here pay more or less for a car previously owned by Chris Evans?
I reckon your celebrity would need to be well & truly dead for their ownership to enhance value, who knows what faux pas could come to light to make a current icon fall from grace. Most of Evans' fleet need a respray anyway.Does make me chuckle a little when I hear of speculators who've now got the hump after buying cars affiliated with another well known DJ. How's about that then? Not that I'm suggesting anything similar to become of Mr. Evans, just find the current obsession with celebrity absurd in general.
I think the association with Chris Evans is more as an enthusiast, investor and collector than celebrity. If he buys a car it possibly demonstrates that that particular model or brand (and it is brand here) gains credibility rather than an individual car gaining value as would be the case with one owned by Steve McQueen, for example, where a premium is paid for the association.
Mine was owned by Michael Palin, but I am not selling it for a few goldfish and cotton buds. Frankly I don't really care about who buys what, but if the last sale sets the standard for the price of a car that means mine will go. I have it as a fun car, but at my financial level £350,000 is no longer fun. Can't see me throwing it up Prescott or round Goodwood or the Val de Viennes again.
ETA:- It took two to get that high and if anyone want to put the underbidder in touch with me.................
ETA:- It took two to get that high and if anyone want to put the underbidder in touch with me.................
Edited by lowdrag on Saturday 27th September 17:27
Lowdrag,
I understand your point of view.
However, why look at it this way: do with it as you please, and if ever anything expensive occurs (accident on or off track etc), the fix will only cost a limited percentage of the car's value. If at that point, you find the repairs too expensive, sell it after the repairs and recover the repair costs and then some (if sold at £350k...).
What I'm trying to say is: it still is your car and in reality nothing has changed since people started paying silly amounts. Enjoy it as much as you can, up until the point where it's no fun anymore and then enjoy the revenues to do as you please
e.g.: use those, at least partially, for a new project
I understand your point of view.
However, why look at it this way: do with it as you please, and if ever anything expensive occurs (accident on or off track etc), the fix will only cost a limited percentage of the car's value. If at that point, you find the repairs too expensive, sell it after the repairs and recover the repair costs and then some (if sold at £350k...).
What I'm trying to say is: it still is your car and in reality nothing has changed since people started paying silly amounts. Enjoy it as much as you can, up until the point where it's no fun anymore and then enjoy the revenues to do as you please
e.g.: use those, at least partially, for a new project
Edited by Church of Noise on Saturday 27th September 17:30
You can buy a new Lynx XKSS for £100,000 cheaper! Possibly you didn't know they are back in production again, and they are made in Czechoslovakia now. This is the prototype:-
Bonnet shape is all wrong as is the wheel arch, but all that is being fixed. I accept that the car is still the same car, but as a percentage of my overall worth my two cars are now approaching a very uncomfortable percentage. I've lived for my cars, sacrificing a lot that other people wouldn't dream of going without. I am wondering, as my favourite birthday is immanent (69 ) whether a cruise on the SS Alzheimer is now in order with her indoors. I can't afford to rally her (the car, fools!) any more since the financial crisis, in fact the petrol costs forbid much use at all, and yes, I do love her, but do I love her £350,000 much? That is the question.
Bonnet shape is all wrong as is the wheel arch, but all that is being fixed. I accept that the car is still the same car, but as a percentage of my overall worth my two cars are now approaching a very uncomfortable percentage. I've lived for my cars, sacrificing a lot that other people wouldn't dream of going without. I am wondering, as my favourite birthday is immanent (69 ) whether a cruise on the SS Alzheimer is now in order with her indoors. I can't afford to rally her (the car, fools!) any more since the financial crisis, in fact the petrol costs forbid much use at all, and yes, I do love her, but do I love her £350,000 much? That is the question.
RichB said:
lowdrag said:
Mine was owned by Michael Palin...
Picking up on that, I can't imagine Palin in a D-Type. He doesn't strike me as the least bit interested in cars, the opposite in fact. I thought he is a bit of an eco/warrior.Edited by RichB on Saturday 27th September 18:10
lowdrag said:
Well, it might be another Michael Palin of course, but I have a copy of the V5 here. I can't imagine it being a common name either. Still, it doesn't matter; no cotton buds, no goldfish, but the car is the same as the other just sold - or is it? I happen to know the history of that car after Cage sold it, and for certain the original engine was removed in New York for another project and a different one slapped in. But that doesn't matter, does it? Or should I look back at my E-type project thread?
Indeed, a very uncommon name. As for the engine being swapped out in a Lynx I can't see that as having any importance, they can't be matching numbers can they Interesting to see this week that Jaguar are making 9 Continuation XKSS at £1m ++
Wonder what that'll do to the value of our XKSS'
Mine due out of big rebuild/restoration shortly ........
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/jag...
Wonder what that'll do to the value of our XKSS'
Mine due out of big rebuild/restoration shortly ........
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/jag...
It'll do exactly the same as it did to the value of the lightweights when they increased the number by one third - sweet FA. The originals are the originals, the new ones will wear the chassis numbers of those lost in the fire of February 1957. Jaguar allocated the numbers XKSS 728 and it was built, then there is a gap to XKSS 754 which is the next actual car produced and sold. Except, as I've always said, the maths doesn't work. Like Ferrari, Jaguar cheated and built 701, 704, 707, 710 and so on to get quickly to the 50 cars needed for homologation for the SCCA series in the USA. So "ten cars were built" but actually only four. Now, if you continue 731, 734, 737, 740, 743, 746, 749, 752 then the next actual car built, 754, is one number out of sequence. Never mind, they did exist in Lofty's mind's eye and that's all that matters. And according to Jaguar, they can be road registered here since they aren't continuations but originals rebuilt. No seat belts, no emissions controls, no IVA.
XJR100 said:
Interesting to see this week that Jaguar are making 9 Continuation XKSS at £1m ++
The rumour mill had these pinned as soon as the light weight E's were announced.I guess they have to find something for the team that built those to do next.
I wonder what they'll do once these XKSS's have been completed?
I also wonder how many will look like original XKSS's and how many of the new owners will order them to look like the McQueen car.
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