Electric power steering retrofit, anyone had it done?

Electric power steering retrofit, anyone had it done?

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Rapid rental

Original Poster:

443 posts

202 months

Monday 17th December 2012
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Hi all, i see there are a few Dutch companies advertising a retrofit to classics, to give a bit of life to heavy steering! Has anyone had it done by either of the two main firms, one is called ooto.eu and the other was easy steering i think? I am considering it but would like to see if its any good in real life.

dave stew

1,502 posts

147 months

Monday 17th December 2012
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It's quite popular now with Mk2 Escorts : http://www.burtonpower.com/power-steering-conversi...


quiraing

1,645 posts

119 months

Monday 17th December 2012
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Some rally Mk2 Escorts have electric Corsa p-steering. Might be worth a look.

Rapid rental

Original Poster:

443 posts

202 months

Monday 17th December 2012
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Looks interesting, very similar to the dutch system.

alvis

57 posts

159 months

Monday 17th December 2012
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Very easy to do, vauxhall corsa or VW golf, secondhand bits off Ebay and a control mpdule, cost me £110, copy the Escort to get the idea off you tube, Very profitable for the companys involved, As a bonus the control module allows you to alter the amount of assistance. Recomended modification if your steering is very heavy or you're not as young as you used to be!

Monza Phil

138 posts

204 months

Monday 17th December 2012
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Bought all the stuff to do this but STILL not got round to it. Mind you, the workout is doing me good I'm sure.

Using Corsa C parts and total outlay so fat is about £100 including the module for variable assistance. The actual powered part of the column looks quite easy to splice into my existing car but I've just had other stuff to do and as it already steers, the conversion is a low priority.

Make sure you get all the right bits if going down this route. You'll need the electric column, ECU and a module. Other option is to get a complete Corsa of course but there are plenty of people selling the right bits.

jith

2,752 posts

195 months

Monday 17th December 2012
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The Fiat Punto system is far more reliable and comes with a variable control button they call City Driving.

Whilst it's fairly simple to rig a system like this up, you have to remember that your column is taking a good deal more stress because the assistance is being applied on the column inside the car, not at the rack or box, so make sure you beef up the column mountings properly.

I prefer this to hydraulic steering because you retain a standard rack and this gives better feel.

J

dycecooper

632 posts

188 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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I have done my TR7V8, best mod ever

Flatinfourth

591 posts

118 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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surely the key to this process is making the car feel right - and not like a 70s jaguar, which drives like its had the steering from a fork lift fitted, with no feel whatsoever, just a choice of direction.

The specialist i have watched in action in the workshop fitting electric systems takes considerable time tuning the system on a laptop afer fitting.

Does anybody have an answer as to how you attain that level of adjustability from a Corsa system, or even the Fiat one, which presumably simply has two operating levels of assistance?

i'm sure care would have to be taken if the system is fitted to an older car with a more traditional level of castor, as a 'constant pressure' type of system will be relying on a big castor figure to give the feedback at speed.


Rapid rental

Original Poster:

443 posts

202 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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Flatinfourth, who have you seen it fitted by? I agree, i think you must have the resistance spot on, otherwise it would be way too light.

TonyBrooks

82 posts

165 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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Just a warning. We fitted a second hand power steering conversion to our rally 106. Absolutely superb in operation and made a huge difference BUT we had not noticed that the previous owner had modified it slightly and when one of the welds failed it left us with no steering whatsoever! Fortunately we had noticed a possible problem literally seconds before and had slowed down so the following 'incident' was completly without damage. A few minutes earlier and I hate to think of what the outcome might have been.

dycecooper

632 posts

188 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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I fitted the Corsa column with no welding, I I have used the full corsa column therefore did not cut and join shafts as I have seen done, I have a dash mounted adjuster for sensitivity and its brilliant. It's also easily switched off too

fareaster

234 posts

159 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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jith said:
The Fiat Punto system is far more reliable and comes with a variable control button they call City Driving.

Whilst it's fairly simple to rig a system like this up, you have to remember that your column is taking a good deal more stress because the assistance is being applied on the column inside the car, not at the rack or box, so make sure you beef up the column mountings properly.

I prefer this to hydraulic steering because you retain a standard rack and this gives better feel.

J
Be also aware that when column drive eps is fitted as original equipment the steering gear itself is strengthened to reflect the higher loads it sees. A manual rack and pinion gear may have durability issues when the system is modified as discussed

callumcowman

1 posts

108 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Hi heard about these power steering conversions are there any available for old minis?

nta16

7,898 posts

214 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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callumcowman said:
Hi heard about these power steering conversions are there any available for old minis?
on a Mini confused

unless you have a disability why would you want or need too

I can't remember Mk2 Escorts having heavy steering, Capris at parking yes, Mk3 Cortina yes, Mk1 Cavaliers yes - but some of the others surprise me unless wide roads wheels and little steering wheels are used or the cars need attention or servicing - what's need or wanted for sports use is a different matter

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

168 months

Sunday 18th August 2013
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My late father had this done on a MGB when he couldn't manage the heavy steering anymore.

It was a wonderful mod, and allowed him to keep driving a car he otherwise wouldn't have been able to.

redchina

490 posts

241 months

Sunday 18th August 2013
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Robert Croucher did it on his XK Jag in Octane if you follow the 'writers cars' bitty.

He seemed to get some stick for being a wuss but loved the mod for practicality purposes (and anything that keeps an old car on the road must really be seen as a good thing?)

K50 DEL

8,855 posts

208 months

Sunday 18th August 2013
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TonyBrooks said:
Just a warning. We fitted a second hand power steering conversion to our rally 106. Absolutely superb in operation and made a huge difference BUT we had not noticed that the previous owner had modified it slightly and when one of the welds failed it left us with no steering whatsoever! Fortunately we had noticed a possible problem literally seconds before and had slowed down so the following 'incident' was completly without damage. A few minutes earlier and I hate to think of what the outcome might have been.
We had it fitted to our rally Novas as well.... a fantastic modification that actually made us more competitive on the stages.

aeropilot

28,397 posts

207 months

Sunday 18th August 2013
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nta16 said:
callumcowman said:
Hi heard about these power steering conversions are there any available for old minis?
on a Mini confused

unless you have a disability why would you want or need too

I can't remember Mk2 Escorts having heavy steering
They were if fitted with a 'quick rack' wink


I had a PTS 'works' 2.2:1 quick ratio rack in my Sunbeam-Lotus and it was seriously heavy at slow speed and for parking etc.
Didn't really notice it that much until later on in ownership as by then I had got to have a daily car with power steering, and it became a bit of shock when taking the SL out for a run somewhere laugh




hot metal

1,859 posts

173 months

Sunday 18th August 2013
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Is everyone going soft ? wink