COOL CLASSIC CAR SPOTTERS POST!!! Vol 2

[lucido grigio]

js68 said:

Local garage this morning- barchetta,
E-type and 30’s Riley..

I've just realised what's going on with the Fiat up on the ramp ,they've left the flap open that covers the soft top when down...

[Horsetan]

Dapster said:

Horsetan said:

Is that somewhere inside Hampstead Garden Suburb?

Exactly - near St Judes Church.

It's the background architecture again.

[laters]

MuscleSaloon said:

One to really upset the purists .... Toyota MR2 Turbo / GT4 .... looking very much like a Mk1 Escort ....

That looks superb & as has already bees said the quality of the workmanship looks fantastic.

[Trevatanus]

Cannot be many of these left by now.
Untitled by Jim Pritchard, on Flickr

[Dapster]

Late model Renault 4. My mates mum had one of these back in the day - hateful things!

[Evangelion]

How can a hateful car be a classic?

[TR4man]

Evangelion said:

How can a hateful car be a classic?

One man's meat is another man's poison.

For some, if it is old it must be a classic.

[aeropilot]

Evangelion said:

How can a hateful car be a classic?

Like many cars now, its a 'classic' purely by definition of age, and rareity only.

Many 'classic' cars of today were hateful things in their day....Morris Marina being another prime example

[austin]

Nothing wrong with a Renault 4. Rather good cars actually.

I guess you probably don't like 2CVs either.

As people have said one man's meat is another's poison.

[rene7]

Don't forget the hateful - Morris Minors/1000's - My dad had one - 2 years on the run the fking kingpin broke whilst we were on holidays causing us to shorten the hols - have hated 'em ever since - Truly 'Hateful' machines
Plenty of others disagree though when you see the numbers if moggy thou's in attendance at Classic car shows

[austin]

rene7 said:

Don't forget the hateful - Morris Minors/1000's - My dad had one - 2 years on the run the fking kingpin broke whilst we were on holidays causing us to shorten the hols - have hated 'em ever since - Truly 'Hateful' machines
Plenty of others disagree though when you see the numbers if moggy thou's in attendance at Classic car shows

Ha ha, we are obviously at the opposite ends of spectrum, had Renault 4, 2CV and have a Morris Minor currently, (along with other slow cars like Austin 7s which you would also probably despise.)

BTW Morris Minors don't have king pins, they have trunions.

[aeropilot]

austin said:

rene7 said:

Don't forget the hateful - Morris Minors/1000's - My dad had one - 2 years on the run the fking kingpin broke whilst we were on holidays causing us to shorten the hols - have hated 'em ever since - Truly 'Hateful' machines
Plenty of others disagree though when you see the numbers if moggy thou's in attendance at Classic car shows

Ha ha, we are obviously at the opposite ends of spectrum, had Renault 4, 2CV and have a Morris Minor currently, (along with other slow cars like Austin 7s which you would also probably despise.)

Childhood friend's Mum had a red Renault 4 in the mid '70's....so spent a lot of time in that. Can remember thinking the mad 'push-pull-twist' gearchange in the dash was mental at the time

[Evangelion]

My opinion is that in order to be a classic, a car must be

1 - old.
2 - not plug ugly.
3 - not a pig to drive.

This however is just my opinion and if others wish to differ, then that's fine.

(As long as they don't expect me to drive the things. Or look at them.)

[Yertis]

Without wanting to open up this whole "what is a classic" thing again, it occurred to me the other day that to become a proper classic a car must have been desirable in some aspirational capacity when it was a current model. For example, a Stag was a genuinely desirable car when it was new, even though the flaws were well known from early on. But I doubt anyone ever thought "When I've made a few bob I'll treat myself to a Marina."

[Doofus]

Yertis said:

Without wanting to open up this whole "what is a classic" thing again, it occurred to me the other day that to become a proper classic a car must have been desirable in some aspirational capacity when it was a current model. For example, a Stag was a genuinely desirable car when it was new, even though the flaws were well known from early on. But I doubt anyone ever thought "When I've made a few bob I'll treat myself to a Marina."

But there might have been somebody working on the factory floor who saw the salesmen tooling about in their Marinas and, for him, they may well have been aspirational.

Different people have different ambitions.

[Yertis]

Doofus said:

But there might have been somebody working on the factory floor who saw the salesmen tooling about in their Marinas and, for him, they may well have been aspirational.

Different people have different ambitions.

Good point. We had a Bedford HA van, in which my brother and I sat on old cushions, or a tool box. Any type of car was aspirational to me. :-(

[Nik da Greek]

Evangelion said:

My opinion is that in order to be a classic, a car must be

1 - old.
2 - not plug ugly.
3 - not a pig to drive.

This however is just my opinion and if others wish to differ, then that's fine.

(As long as they don't expect me to drive the things. Or look at them.)

Never driven a Ford Model T then? 1... well, yeah they're pretty old now. 2...hideously ugly, like a Victorian bedstead crashed into a load of abandoned pallets holding prams. 3...utterly hateful in every regard with random pedals controlling strange gear arrangements, no brakes of any merit at all and a ride like a ship in high seas.

Nahhhh, not a classic in any way really It's only the car that invented... well, the car... and the second most selling vehicle in history. Poor old Henry, but I guess one out of three ain't bad

[Doofus]

Nik da Greek said:

Ford Model T... It's only the car that invented... well, the car...

Really?

[Nik da Greek]

Doofus said:

Nik da Greek said:

Ford Model T... It's only the car that invented... well, the car...

Really?

*sigh* if you wish the PH pedantry machine to hit "normal service" I guess I can qualify that with "the car that invented the car as a mass-produced conveyance that was made affordable to the masses by using time utility factors and interchangeability of parts manufactured in-house to enhance ease of construction, control of overheads and simple variance in model range" but to be honest it just didn't have the same ring to it I suspect anyone who wasn't just looking for a pointless argument knew exactly what I meant

[Nik da Greek]

No, wait, come back... we haven't had a lovely chat about whether the Oldsmobile Curved Dash really invented the concept of mass production of personal transport and Henry Ford just used his usual wily chutzpah to lay claim to the idea yet. That'll be so much fun