COOL CLASSIC CAR SPOTTERS POST!!! Vol 2

[aeropilot]

Nik da Greek said:

Doofus said:

Nik da Greek said:

Ford Model T... It's only the car that invented... well, the car...

Really?

*sigh* if you wish the PH pedantry machine to hit "normal service" I guess I can qualify that with "the car that invented the car as a mass-produced conveyance that was made affordable to the masses by using time utility factors and interchangeability of parts manufactured in-house to enhance ease of construction, control of overheads and simple variance in model range" but to be honest it just didn't have the same ring to it I suspect anyone who wasn't just looking for a pointless argument knew exactly what I meant

[Nik da Greek]

Or perhaps your particular spectrum of pedantry runs more to discussing whether Fred Lanchester ought to take credit... after all, his vision relied on a car designed from first principles, rather than an adapted horse carriage forced to fit around an internal combustion propulsion source? Oh, that's a good case too

[Doofus]

I wasn't looking for an argument; I was asking for clarificaton.

Grumpy bugger, aren't you?

[Evangelion]

Blimey, I'm sorry I said anything now!

[Nik da Greek]

Doofus said:

I wasn't looking for an argument; I was asking for clarificaton.

Grumpy bugger, aren't you?

Evangelion said:

Blimey, I'm sorry I said anything now!

It was meant a bit tongue-in-cheek But now you mention it... I should have known better than to read the Donald Trump thread before posting somewhere sensible. I think I might have caught a dose of PHitis

[Doofus]

[Horsetan]

Doofus said:

I wasn't looking for an argument; I was asking for clarification.....

*tries to imagine Donald Trump saying this. Fails.*

[Yertis]

Nik da Greek said:

Never driven a Ford Model T then? 1... well, yeah they're pretty old now. 2...hideously ugly, like a Victorian bedstead crashed into a load of abandoned pallets holding prams. 3...utterly hateful in every regard with random pedals controlling strange gear arrangements, no brakes of any merit at all and a ride like a ship in high seas.

Nahhhh, not a classic in any way really It's only the car that invented... well, the car... and the second most selling vehicle in history. Poor old Henry, but I guess one out of three ain't bad

To be honest I'm not sure if I could identify a Model T if I saw it.

[Nik da Greek]

Looks just like Lizzie in Cars

[Yertis]

I've not watched that movie...

I think we need to just accept that the Model T, like nearly every Ford, is not a classic. And leave it at that.

Joking aside, isn't it a 'vintage car' rather than 'classic'?

[aeropilot]

Yertis said:

I've not watched that movie...

Yertis said:

Joking aside, isn't it a 'vintage car' rather than 'classic'?

Yes.

[Doofus]

Yertis said:

Joking aside, isn't it a 'vintage car' rather than 'classic'?

Careful now, or he'll kick off again...

[Nik da Greek]

Hmmm. In much the same way as all herring are fish but not all fish are herring, maybe all vintage are classics but not all classics are vintage?
It depends on where you are in the world anyway, I believe to Americans they're all classics but they make the distinction for "fine" or "distinctive" automobiles according to CCCA guidelines. Then complicate matters further with "brass" cars and suchlike . I think the UK definiton is all of them are classic, but subdivided into veteran, vintage and ....ahhhhm, everything else. Vulgar modern post 1930 tat "Historic vehicle" throws another spanner in by basically alleging everything more than 40 years old is classic or significant. Yep, even Morris Marinas

As always, happy to be corrected. Or for a definitive definition of what constitues "classic" to be provided. Because I don't believe there is any such cast-iron definition.... which was kinda the point

Edited by Nik da Greek on Wednesday 6th December 16:51

[Yertis]

Doesn't it go something like:

Veteran
|
Vintage
|
Classic
|
Retro/Youngtimer
|
Getting on a bit – ("Is this a classic yet?")
|
Secondhand I (non-franchise forecourt fodder)
|
Dealer trade-in
|
Current model

[austin]

Aren't they all just old cars?

This is the spotted thread, there are loads talking about what is a classic, (usually a new one about once a month.) Maybe this conversation should continue in one of those?

[Yertis]

austin said:

Aren't they all just old cars?

This is the spotted thread, there are loads talking about what is a classic, (usually a new one about once a month.) Maybe this conversation should continue in one of those?

Yes. Sorry. Blame Nik.

[Roy C]

Yertis said:

Doesn't it go something like:

Veteran
|
Vintage
|
Classic
|
Retro/Youngtimer
|
Getting on a bit – ("Is this a classic yet?")
|
Secondhand I (non-franchise forecourt fodder)
|
Dealer trade-in
|
Current model

You missed out Brass Era, Horseless Carriage Era, Edwardian, Post-Vintage Thoroughbred (PVT), Pre-War, P.O.S. , Rust Bucket, etc,.

[threespires]

Back on track --- ☺

Triumph Spitfire for sale in France.

[Nik da Greek]

Yertis said:

austin said:

Aren't they all just old cars?

This is the spotted thread, there are loads talking about what is a classic, (usually a new one about once a month.) Maybe this conversation should continue in one of those?

Yes. Sorry. Blame Nik.

My bad

but I still blame Evangelion's three-point law


By way of atonement, have a humpty-backed Aprilia with Beetle lights


Aprilia r by Nick Liassides, on Flickr

[CanAm]

Yertis said:

I've not watched that movie...

I think we need to just accept that the Model T, like nearly every Ford, is not a classic. And leave it at that.

This Ford is a Classic