The Range Rover Classic thread:

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MarkwG

4,813 posts

188 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Henry_b said:
My Classic... tongue outtongue outlaugh
biggrin you're a very naughty boy...shall I add some of my censored X5 too hehe - it's got some RR bits in it, I'm sure. wink

RobXjcoupe

3,151 posts

90 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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A few years ago, a friend of mine was a police driver trainer. He was asked to train up some soldiers with advanced driving in a Range Rover. Well he arrived at the place. Soldiers introduced themselves. The driving took place under ground. The soldiers wanted him to show them how to do j turns properly. With a car full of armed soldiers the demonstration took place in the under ground simulated scenario and with immense shock with live fire! My mate said he did as was asked and rather dumbstruck being shot at. Soldier in car said, you’ll be fine it will be a lucky shot to get 2 bullets in exactly the same place to get through the bullet proof windscreen! The said soldiers thought he would bottle it lol

Projectblue51

246 posts

79 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Paw said:
That’s one of the last batch of 6 classics built for 22 SAS.

Is a team car due to the bumper brackets for the assault platform, the command cars did not have them
Correct biggrin


soxboy said:
P reg (96/97) on a Classic. Is it an ex-SAS?
Correct on both. biggrin

DonkeyApple said:
Roll cage?
Correct. Safety Devices Roll Cage.



Edited by Projectblue51 on Wednesday 1st July 19:11

Projectblue51

246 posts

79 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Some got it. The full list is as follows.

Visible;
97P (last official RR classic was '95). The '97 bit was an error, but it was still '96.
Rioja Red never a RRC colour. P38a colour.
Bumper mounts located a roof and bonnet assaulting platform
Internal rollcage with integral load guard.
IR Headlights
Occulting (Left/Right flash) headlights (if they were switched on)

Not visible;
Balanced and blue printed JE Engineering engine.
Headlight switch for IR/Normal/Off (independent of the factory switch)
Map light with red bulb on a stalk.
Glove box with pistol frame and lock
Two tone air horns (nee naws)
'94 LSE wiring loom
Flash grenade release handle in centre armrest cubby box (pulled a spring release to a box on the chassis rail - I was told it was for flashbangs)
Brake light cut off switch
Chassis # well after the last of the official numbers. Also, a problem getting bits for it. That's how I found out about the wiring loom.






Edited by Projectblue51 on Wednesday 1st July 21:58

dinfow

32 posts

69 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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I stopped to fill up the duchess earlier today (soft dash), got about £35 of petrol in before I noticed fuel had started leaking down onto the floor, which stopped a few seconds after I stopped filling. Not a huge amount leaked but still sizeable.

It looks like the breather pipe has cracked by the jubilee clip, is this an easy fix with a new pipe or am I looking at pain and heartbreak?







Secondly, does anyone have any experience with any of the following specialists in London/South East, there are a few things I’d like looked at:

RCV, Gigglepin, LRR Range Rovers (Greenwich), RR London (Battersea)

Thanks

DonkeyApple

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54,934 posts

168 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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It depends what you want doing but for general maintenance I would head for Graham Goodyer out on the end of the Met Line.

T-J-C

128 posts

94 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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DKL said:
Ok so I'm biased but I think that's a great profile. Well done on getting it up and running.
I've finally capitulated and bought a set of rear quarter window seals for mine. They are a lot for what they are but it did need doing.
Need to get the badges back on and maybe a respray (so not in that order) but the old girl is going quite well.
Oh and don't polybush them. I'm still ironing out body flex and wobble and all that is left is that the whole thing was PBed a good while before I got it and I think the stiffness is where the problem lies.
Thanks. I won’t be polybushing it. Let me know how well the window seals fit. Mine will need doing at some point.

T-J-C

128 posts

94 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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I’m having trouble with my top tailgate. Is there meant to be a spacer between the hinge and the body? I haven’t got one and the frame isn’t pushing the plunger for lights/locking (it is going up the back of it).

DonkeyApple

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54,934 posts

168 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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T-J-C said:
I’m having trouble with my top tailgate. Is there meant to be a spacer between the hinge and the body? I haven’t got one and the frame isn’t pushing the plunger for lights/locking (it is going up the back of it).
Just a slim rubber gasket on the threaded arm that goes into the roof to help seal it. I can’t think of anything else. Is it a new tailgate?

T-J-C

128 posts

94 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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DonkeyApple said:
Just a slim rubber gasket on the threaded arm that goes into the roof to help seal it. I can’t think of anything else. Is it a new tailgate?
Thanks. Think I've found the gasket after lots of Googling. It's a used tailgate. Can't remember taking any off with the orginal but there are marks on the car were there once was a gasket/washer.

DonkeyApple

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54,934 posts

168 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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It’s about 15mm with an oblong hole. Very slim. I lost one when changing my tailgate and the other is on the rear parcel shelf waiting for repatriation.

One thing that I’ve learned with the tailgates is that they are not all the same and replacements often don’t sit the same as what you took off and need quite a bit of tiny fettling to get right!

cayman-black

12,625 posts

215 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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This classic is up for bids, wonder what price it will achieve?
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1993-range-rov...

Purso

859 posts

101 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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I saw that, seems to be doing quite well!

DonkeyApple

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54,934 posts

168 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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You’d have to go and see it to really find out what the story is.

It reads, from a cynics perspective, as if it was ‘restored’ by a garage and then sold which always worries me more than one which is restored under the oversight of an owner who intends to keep it. It was then sold to a chap who barely used it and had to have a load of other work done and who is now offloading it.

New sunroof rivets certainly strikes me as an odd selling feature etc. Combine that with the engine rebuild and it paints a picture of a car that was really in a bad way before being restored and so did it have absolutely everything restored or just the bits you can see?

Having seen Rangies that were tarted up by a garage on their own book and found clumps of filler under the newly painted chassis!!!, while it reads like anything under £20k would be a bargain for a fantastic daily classic it could equally be a £2k scrapper that’s been patched up, had a blown engine rebuilt and a blow over to get out the door with a chunky mark up first time around and the current owner has had enough after a year?

I think you’d be mad to bid now that it has gone above breaking value without spending an hour lifting all the carpets and testing every part of the chassis with a magnet. Minimum.

cayman-black

12,625 posts

215 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Luckily for the seller, not everyone is as knowledgeable as you DA.

DonkeyApple

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54,934 posts

168 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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cayman-black said:
Luckily for the seller, not everyone is as knowledgeable as you DA.
It just strikes me as either being an absolute steal at under £20k or a massive lemon. I’m wondering if one of the early bidders is a friend of mine who restored my car.

Purso

859 posts

101 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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cayman-black said:
Luckily for the seller, not everyone is as knowledgeable as you DA.
very true!

CAPP0

19,533 posts

202 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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dinfow said:
Secondly, does anyone have any experience with any of the following specialists in London/South East, there are a few things I’d like looked at:

RCV, Gigglepin, LRR Range Rovers (Greenwich), RR London (Battersea)

Thanks
If you're prepared to go as far as RCV, then try AHL Engineering at Ulcombe, 2 brothers, they know a lot of stuff, they've looked after both my L322s and also helped out with my old P38. Never took my Classic there but have seen them in there.

I've not much detail on the others but based on limited experience, RCV are helpful but not cheap (but neither are AHL) and the one time I used LRR I found them OK price-wise but less than thorough on what I asked them to do, plus when you get there you won't be wanting to leave your car in the area!

T-J-C

128 posts

94 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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I was going to buy a kit to refurbish the suspension compressor in my LSE. I can only find kits for the P38. Am I correct in thinking the parts are the same? I’m looking at seals and rubber mounts.

There doesn’t appear to be anything wrong with my pump currently. Would I be better off leaving it alone rather than change the seals? I’m getting a lot of vibration and noise when the pump is running so I think the mounts will need changing.

DonkeyApple

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54,934 posts

168 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Different systems. Don’t know if they share any parts or anything is interchangeable though.