The Range Rover Classic thread:

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NomduJour

18,988 posts

258 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Quick-ratio steering box is a separate option - catalogue lists Precision Steering Conversion as:

"Sharpens steering response and 'turn-in'. New, re-engineered linkage eliminates free play and sponge in the system and helps damp out steering 'shudder'. Highly effective handling upgrade. Mandatory with 235 & 255 section tyres."

I'm sure that I've seen a picture of one with twin steering dampers, but - given that the steering damper is really only of benefit in ruts etc. - I'm not sure what the point of that might be.

NomduJour

18,988 posts

258 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Have a feeling it might not be much more than solid (or stiffer) steering rods.

RicksAlfas

13,355 posts

243 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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That reminds me. My steering has been feeling really weird recently. It seemed to have lost it's ability to return/self centre and generally felt even more dead and lifeless than usual. Turns out the steering damper was FUBAR.

DonkeyApple

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54,932 posts

168 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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NomduJour said:
Have a feeling it might not be much more than solid (or stiffer) steering rods.
The death wobble is restrained by the panhard and the damper so maybe they just polybush the panhard and fit a stiffer damper. My direct experience of old Overfinch was that they applied a lot of marketing waffle.

NomduJour

18,988 posts

258 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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As I understand it the steering damper effectively does very little (on the road at least), assuming everything else is in good shape - they’re not designed to damp high-frequency vibrations.

Think the solid/stiffer steering rods should flex less, making things feel more direct.

T-J-C

128 posts

94 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Electric Range Rover Classic!
https://youtu.be/OdODKlkN4Bk


DKL

4,480 posts

221 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Mine is polybushed throughout, came with it, and I'm not convinced they aren't too stiff. Mine is a longer WB and as I've swapped out most of the steering components the little shimmy I still get occasionally I feel is probably just the bushes. I imagine there are different compounds and I'd certainly investigate further if and when they start to need replacing again.

NomduJour

18,988 posts

258 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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I’m about to have mine rebushed - going for OEM rubber. Think death wobble is more likely top swivel pin preload, or worn lower swivel bearings, if nothing’s visibly worn.

DonkeyApple

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54,932 posts

168 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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NomduJour said:
I’m about to have mine rebushed - going for OEM rubber. Think death wobble is more likely top swivel pin preload, or worn lower swivel bearings, if nothing’s visibly worn.
The swivels is what people head to but it's very often just a rubber bush breaking up on the panhard rod. I've never personally experienced any wear in the swivels but had the death wobble a couple of times over the years and each time it's been the bush under the power steering box where fluid from the box has dropped on it and speeded up its demise.

I agree re oem rubber. My two door seems to be a blend of old rubber and nasty poly pushes. They'll all be coming out and getting oem. I think if polybushes weren't coloured and weren't associated with 'race car' or easier and cheaper to fit no one would use them on a sloppy old road car.

soxboy

6,061 posts

218 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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T-J-C said:
Electric Range Rover Classic!
https://youtu.be/OdODKlkN4Bk
Great concept, exceptionally dull video.

RobXjcoupe

3,151 posts

90 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Here goes. My old 92 v8 is hopefully getting fixed up. Nothing fancy, nothing Uber powerful, just gonna get to grips with the holes, rot and rust that some how is still holding the old girl together.


DKL

4,480 posts

221 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Swivel preloads made quite a difference to mine but they were a long way out when I first bought it. The steering box was really worn which didn't help either. Death wobble makes you jump the first time!

DKL

4,480 posts

221 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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RobXjcoupe said:

Here goes. My old 92 v8 is hopefully getting fixed up. Nothing fancy, nothing Uber powerful, just gonna get to grips with the holes, rot and rust that some how is still holding the old girl together.
Welcome Rob, good to see another. Post some pics of the corrosion and plenty of wise heads here will give you a good idea of what's what.

CAPP0

19,533 posts

202 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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DKL said:
RobXjcoupe said:

Here goes. My old 92 v8 is hopefully getting fixed up. Nothing fancy, nothing Uber powerful, just gonna get to grips with the holes, rot and rust that some how is still holding the old girl together.
Welcome Rob, good to see another. Post some pics of the corrosion and plenty of wise heads here will give you a good idea of what's what.
Good shout Rob, see, I told you wink I spent several pages a while back on here just getting help to get mine to run. 2 years later and it *might* get parked over a ministry-approved inspection pit soon laugh

RobXjcoupe

3,151 posts

90 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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CAPP0 said:
DKL said:
RobXjcoupe said:

Here goes. My old 92 v8 is hopefully getting fixed up. Nothing fancy, nothing Uber powerful, just gonna get to grips with the holes, rot and rust that some how is still holding the old girl together.
Welcome Rob, good to see another. Post some pics of the corrosion and plenty of wise heads here will give you a good idea of what's what.
Good shout Rob, see, I told you wink I spent several pages a while back on here just getting help to get mine to run. 2 years later and it *might* get parked over a ministry-approved inspection pit soon laugh
I’m not looking for that as factory restoration but I do like my cars to be repaired properly.
So first question......... easy on panels that they reproduce for the classic are they a good alternative as they use a thicker gauge material?

CAPP0

19,533 posts

202 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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RobXjcoupe said:
I’m not looking for that as factory restoration but I do like my cars to be repaired properly.
So first question......... easy on panels that they reproduce for the classic are they a good alternative as they use a thicker gauge material?
I only bought one, a front footwell, and it was a disastrously bad fit, took lots of chopping about to get it to fit.

RobXjcoupe

3,151 posts

90 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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CAPP0 said:
RobXjcoupe said:
I’m not looking for that as factory restoration but I do like my cars to be repaired properly.
So first question......... easy on panels that they reproduce for the classic are they a good alternative as they use a thicker gauge material?
I only bought one, a front footwell, and it was a disastrously bad fit, took lots of chopping about to get it to fit.
That’s what I thought as the panels are not die pressed but measured and folded sheet.
That was my trade of press and die toolmaking but since moving to South Wales I’m a toolmaker machinist.
Did you butt weld the panel in place or weld on top of good metal?

DKL

4,480 posts

221 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Butt welding is the way to go. Yrm do replacement panels too but I've no idea how good they are.

RobXjcoupe

3,151 posts

90 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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DKL said:
Butt welding is the way to go. Yrm do replacement panels too but I've no idea how good they are.
Yes but wondered if the fitting issue with the easy on part was because it was welded on top of a panel rather than cut into the original floor?

DKL

4,480 posts

221 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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RobXjcoupe said:
Yes but wondered if the fitting issue with the easy on part was because it was welded on top of a panel rather than cut into the original floor?
Ah I see. I don't know is the answer but I imagine Cappo will reply. I'd have thought cutting the floor would be more work but the right thing to do rather than welding on top even if it is solid metal. Certainly cutting the new part in will give a better finish.
These are the other parst I'm aware of.
https://yrmit.co.uk/product-category/range-rover-c...