Another mystery car

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hpojnk

11 posts

34 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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threespires said:
Not that I remember. The original picture ends at the side window of the Thames.
I think some have removed the lady who is blocking the view of the car.
Yeah borrani72 did a really good cross section of the lines of the car unseen behind the woman.

I’ll do an extension of the photo and see how it looks, an accurate (not from me probably) construction of the front of the Thames can be done as we have its perspective and know its dimensions.

threespires

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4,289 posts

210 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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hpojnk said:
threespires said:
Not that I remember. The original picture ends at the side window of the Thames.
I think some have removed the lady who is blocking the view of the car.
Yeah borrani72 did a really good cross section of the lines of the car unseen behind the woman.

I’ll do an extension of the photo and see how it looks, an accurate (not from me probably) construction of the front of the Thames can be done as we have its perspective and know its dimensions.
Excellent!

tapkaJohnD

1,930 posts

203 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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Seen on a South London street, this has been carefully wrapped, either to hide what it is, of preserve it for a future project.
I fear the wrapping will only accelerate the decay.

But is this wrapping enough to stump the classic car gurus of PistonHeads?

Clue - it may be a red herring! - two rear axles from a FWD car in the garage behind it. So this is a FWD car?

John

robemcdonald

8,716 posts

195 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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tapkaJohnD said:

Seen on a South London street, this has been carefully wrapped, either to hide what it is, of preserve it for a future project.
I fear the wrapping will only accelerate the decay.

But is this wrapping enough to stump the classic car gurus of PistonHeads?

Clue - it may be a red herring! - two rear axles from a FWD car in the garage behind it. So this is a FWD car?

John
Looks like an mgbgt to me.

threespires

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4,289 posts

210 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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tapkaJohnD said:

Seen on a South London street, this has been carefully wrapped, either to hide what it is, of preserve it for a future project.
I fear the wrapping will only accelerate the decay.

But is this wrapping enough to stump the classic car gurus of PistonHeads?

Clue - it may be a red herring! - two rear axles from a FWD car in the garage behind it. So this is a FWD car?

John
I'd guess it's an MGB GT

uk66fastback

16,457 posts

270 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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threespires said:
I'd guess it's an MGB GT
Definitely …

RichardM5

1,733 posts

135 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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robemcdonald said:
tapkaJohnD said:

Seen on a South London street, this has been carefully wrapped, either to hide what it is, of preserve it for a future project.
I fear the wrapping will only accelerate the decay.

But is this wrapping enough to stump the classic car gurus of PistonHeads?

Clue - it may be a red herring! - two rear axles from a FWD car in the garage behind it. So this is a FWD car?

John
Looks like an mgbgt to me.
Agreed, and it's probably wrapped up because it looks like the drivers door and tailgate are removed.

eldar

21,614 posts

195 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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It is, without doubt, the very car pictured in the first post. Been a long time coming, but finally solved.

Probably.

austin

1,274 posts

202 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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This has just come up on a Facebook group for 50's & 60's specials. A modified Speedex Scirocco.



https://www.facebook.com/groups/286528681465794/pe...


nicanary

9,751 posts

145 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Can anyone point me towards the thread about that other mystery car which was a red coupe that turned out to be an abandoned project for a Le Mans racer with Climax engine? We had a very full and informative answer.

The search facility keeps suggesting the little blue coupe!

NomduJour

18,988 posts

258 months

nicanary

9,751 posts

145 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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NomduJour said:
That's the one! Thanks very muchly. I searched using "mystery" when it should have been "unknown" !

threespires

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4,289 posts

210 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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austin said:
This has just come up on a Facebook group for 50's & 60's specials. A modified Speedex Scirocco.



https://www.facebook.com/groups/286528681465794/pe...
I think that's the closest we've come to the blue Mystery car. Good find.

thegreenhell

15,115 posts

218 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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It has a lot to commend it, but alas it is not our mystery car. The windscreen is completely wrong.

Dr G

15,159 posts

241 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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I still clutch at the odd straw looking for this car.

Last week was an image of a heavily modified Spitfire that got me trawling around.

I'll be most upset if I die and we've still not figured it out. I mean I won't, I'll be dead, but you get the idea...

hpojnk

11 posts

34 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Sorry to bump but it's still bugging me.. the more I look the more I still think it's a heavily modified 1960 Sunbeam Alpine.. to me the crease/curve in the rear quarter and the front wing is millimetrically identical/unaltered; the front wing curves down a bit too. I think the headlight position is identical too if you look at some of the reference points between the two cars. Obviously the car looks quite small, may have a flip front/gullwing doors and a radically different screen, the bonnet looks too low and the driving position looks wrong but I still think that's what it is underneath/borrowing a lot of the body from. No idea who/what/why but it's too intricate to be fake or anything other than a one off special/prototype, it looks great imo.

Attached a very rough comparison of the two plus my rough/unfinished model


threespires

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4,289 posts

210 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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hpojnk said:
Sorry to bump but it's still bugging me.. the more I look the more I still think it's a heavily modified 1960 Sunbeam Alpine.. to me the crease/curve in the rear quarter and the front wing is millimetrically identical/unaltered; the front wing curves down a bit too. I think the headlight position is identical too if you look at some of the reference points between the two cars. Obviously the car looks quite small, may have a flip front/gullwing doors and a radically different screen, the bonnet looks too low and the driving position looks wrong but I still think that's what it is underneath/borrowing a lot of the body from. No idea who/what/why but it's too intricate to be fake or anything other than a one off special/prototype, it looks great imo.

Attached a very rough comparison of the two plus my rough/unfinished model

That's a nice model you have there.
Indeed, there are many Alpine-like features to it.

After many years on P/H and many other forum and magazine features worldwide, I'm amazed that this is still a Mystery car.

Milkyway

9,292 posts

52 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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From the SOS page.
XJ SS... sold for £1550, apparently the number plate is worth about the same.
Fibreglass bodykit based on a V12 XJS
Different. scratchchin


Update: Banham convertible.


Edited by Milkyway on Thursday 21st July 22:55

threespires

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4,289 posts

210 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Milkyway said:
From the SOS page.
XJ SS... sold for £1550, apparently the number plate is worth about the same.
Fibreglass bodykit based on a V12 XJS
Different. scratchchin

Oh dear....

skwdenyer

16,181 posts

239 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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threespires said:
Milkyway said:
From the SOS page.
XJ SS... sold for £1550, apparently the number plate is worth about the same.
Fibreglass bodykit based on a V12 XJS
Different. scratchchin

Oh dear....
If you want a questionable XJ-S - based special, might as well go for pedigree: I see your Paul Banham and raise you William Towns:



The Railton F29 Clairmont. It's almost unbelievable that only 2 were apparently made...