Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

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Milkyway

9,406 posts

53 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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DickyC said:
Milkyway said:
Bangers & Cash had a Vanden Plas Princess R for about £5K, admittedly, it did need a lot of attention... but at least it was all in one piece.
I wonder if anyone used the Rolls Royce engine from the Vanden Plas Princess R in an Austin Healey or an MGC. It was aluminium IIRC.

Just thinking out loud.

smile
Wasn’t that RR engine the equivalent of the 924’s... albeit quite a lot bigger. scratchchin

DickyC

49,738 posts

198 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Milkyway said:
Wasn’t that RR engine the equivalent of the 924’s... albeit quite a lot bigger. scratchchin
There's a BMC site with a bit on it. They say the engine was a version of that used in Rolls Royce and Bentley cars up to 1959 and some military vehicles. It was an inlet over exhaust engine and my limited knowledge suggests it may have been too tall for the MG or Austin Healey.

Milkyway

9,406 posts

53 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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DickyC said:
Milkyway said:
Wasn’t that RR engine the equivalent of the 924’s... albeit quite a lot bigger. scratchchin
There's a BMC site with a bit on it. They say the engine was a version of that used in Rolls Royce and Bentley cars up to 1959 and some military vehicles. It was an inlet over exhaust engine and my limited knowledge suggests it may have been too tall for the MG or Austin Healey.
Wiki: It had multiple uses in the military in 4, 6 & 8 cylinder guises.
A couple of ‘R’s were were built with modified front & rear wings, being envisaged as a small Bentley... But was shelved when the Silver Shadow was introduced.


Edited by Milkyway on Tuesday 28th March 11:12

healeyneil

298 posts

147 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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The Westminster shared most of its engine, some of its gearbox sometimes, and it’s differential with the Healey. Nothing else I am aware of. Automatic Westies provide the sought after 4.54 diff.
There were , I believe 3 experimental Healeys built with a Rolls Royce engine. They widened the whole car by 4”

kimducati

344 posts

164 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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DickyC said:
I wonder if anyone used the Rolls Royce engine from the Vanden Plas Princess R in an Austin Healey or an MGC. It was aluminium IIRC.

Just thinking out loud.

smile
Three built, apparently, by Healey (rather than BMC) as a development exercise to prolong the life of the 3000. Obviously never taken further, reasons outlined in this article - https://www.ewilkins.com/wilko/ah4000.htm
Kim
eta beaten to it!!

DickyC

49,738 posts

198 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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kimducati said:
DickyC said:
I wonder if anyone used the Rolls Royce engine from the Vanden Plas Princess R in an Austin Healey or an MGC. It was aluminium IIRC.

Just thinking out loud.

smile
Three built, apparently, by Healey (rather than BMC) as a development exercise to prolong the life of the 3000. Obviously never taken further, reasons outlined in this article - https://www.ewilkins.com/wilko/ah4000.htm
Kim
eta beaten to it!!
The article is marvellous. It shows I could have been the English Carroll Shelby if my circumstances had been completely different and I'd been born twenty years earlier.

Odd the thing about Healey not entertaining an American engine. AC, Jensen and Bristol did it. Gordon Keeble. It seems so blinkered.

Richard-390a0

2,257 posts

91 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Shezbo said:
KAgantua said:
And I seriously doubt there is anything whatsoever of value in the whole pile of dust.
I agree, once the 3 genuinely 'good' parts are taken from it, the rest can swept in the bin.

He would have been better to sell the whole car IMHO?
eBay listing/selling fees are a lot lower in the parts category rather than in the motors section, so possibly he will sell you the whole car but wants to pay less in fees to do it.

Yertis

18,051 posts

266 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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DickyC said:
... if my circumstances had been completely different and I'd been born twenty years earlier.
I often find myself thinking that too hehe

Mind you I'd be really old now.

DickyC

49,738 posts

198 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Yertis said:
DickyC said:
... if my circumstances had been completely different and I'd been born twenty years earlier.
I often find myself thinking that too hehe

Mind you I'd be really old now.
beer

Writhing

490 posts

109 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Deepest Bury St Edmunds. Not moved for a very long time but looks in good nick

Watcher of the skies

528 posts

37 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Escort3500 said:
Driver101 said:
bongtom said:
More likely he doesn't have the title or log book.
Old cars are not really ringed. No point.
There is another thread on here that proves otherwise. Vehicle identities sell for a lot of money.
Especially ‘fast’ Ford ones


Edited by Escort3500 on Tuesday 28th March 09:26
...but probably not likely for an Austin Westminster.

Lotus Elan +2

459 posts

265 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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Plenty of MGF's

TR4man

5,227 posts

174 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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Near Stafford town centre today.

Opel Manta?






TarquinMX5

1,943 posts

80 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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TR4man said:
Near Stafford town centre today.

Opel Manta?
I would say so, yes.

Levin

2,025 posts

124 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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TR4man said:
Near Stafford town centre today.

Opel Manta?





That's a Manta alright. I think it's the hatchback rather than the coupe.

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

176 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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Any story on that mgf site ?

Penny Whistle

5,783 posts

170 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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TR4man said:
Near Stafford town centre today.

Opel Manta?

Aaah, that takes me back. I remember bomb sites from the 50s.

4rephill

5,040 posts

178 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Missy Charm said:
4rephill said:
Mercky said:
Skyedriver said:
Ronaro said:
Currently on eBay..



Worizit?

Oxford/Cambridge? Or something more exotic?
Austin Westminster
From the advert ( https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314189772315?hash=item4... )

"Not selling complete so don't ask. Selling parts only"

That makes a change - Usually you can only buy the whole car and not just some parts smile
For those asking, he or she is refusing to sell the whole car to prevent its use as a ringing kit; for those that don't know, you buy a complete wreck like that to gain clear title of a clean chassis number, 'obtain' another example of the car, transfer everything over and apply for a registration and logbook on the clean chassis number.

Sign of an honest seller, perhaps.
If the concern was someone using it for a ringing kit, and the seller wanted to make sure that the remains were used for parts only, all they have to do is advertise it as "for parts only", along with: "sold without VIN plate", and remove the VIN plate.

There may be a market for ringing cars such as certain MK1 Escorts/Capri's and other high value classic cars, but an Austin Westminster? - I'm seriously struggling to believe there's a big market for Westminster's (especially as interest in domestic cars of that era is startling to dwindle)

Lotus Elan +2

459 posts

265 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Shadow R1 said:
Any story on that mgf site ?
All I know is that they've been there a few years and it's in a small village near Mold, north Wales.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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A miserable Maserati Merak...