Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2
Discussion
Risonax said:
In some cases, the cars are dumped because they can't get anyone to fix them. In other cases, the owner has died, and no one wants the car; there is a tradition in the region of homes (palaces really)mbeing abandoned after a death (Bahrain was full of crumbling towers).
The Maseratis were most likely to be abandoned because of a lack of trained mechanics.
Probably the fate of this Aston Martin; something broke and they don't know how to fix it.
It all begs the question as to why there is not a steady flow of these back to Europe?The Maseratis were most likely to be abandoned because of a lack of trained mechanics.
Probably the fate of this Aston Martin; something broke and they don't know how to fix it.
Willhire89 said:
It all begs the question as to why there is not a steady flow of these back to Europe?
Probably because greasing all the palms necessary to get the papers needed to collect derelicts and load them into containers/onto a RoRo would render the exercise pointless even before the "I know what it's werf" aspect is even addressed.Risonax said:
In some cases, the cars are dumped because they can't get anyone to fix them. In other cases, the owner has died, and no one wants the car; there is a tradition in the region of homes (palaces really)mbeing abandoned after a death (Bahrain was full of crumbling towers).
I thought it was to do with Sharia Law and the consequences of defaulting on loans / lease payments, no? Turbobanana said:
Risonax said:
In some cases, the cars are dumped because they can't get anyone to fix them. In other cases, the owner has died, and no one wants the car; there is a tradition in the region of homes (palaces really)mbeing abandoned after a death (Bahrain was full of crumbling towers).
I thought it was to do with Sharia Law and the consequences of defaulting on loans / lease payments, no? Rumdoodle said:
Turbobanana said:
Risonax said:
In some cases, the cars are dumped because they can't get anyone to fix them. In other cases, the owner has died, and no one wants the car; there is a tradition in the region of homes (palaces really)mbeing abandoned after a death (Bahrain was full of crumbling towers).
I thought it was to do with Sharia Law and the consequences of defaulting on loans / lease payments, no? 
TikTak said:
Certainly is one by my standards. No one-size-fits-all when it comes to classics.With those number plates in that typeface and dimensions (pre-September 2001) there's a car at least 21 years old there.
Those number plates are likely to be original dealer number plates as well, which IMO add a more original touch, in contrast with aftermarket number plates.
A shame it's sat there. Only so many of these in original spec/condition remaining.
captain.scarlet said:
TikTak said:
Certainly is one by my standards. No one-size-fits-all when it comes to classics.With those number plates in that typeface and dimensions (pre-September 2001) there's a car at least 21 years old there.
Those number plates are likely to be original dealer number plates as well, which IMO add a more original touch, in contrast with aftermarket number plates.
A shame it's sat there. Only so many of these in original spec/condition remaining.
Can't quite see it I realized but I know the plate is W998 MGM. MOT expired June 2016 so I assume its been there since then. It also only has 25k miles on it on its 2015 MOT which adds to the sadness I think.
Willhire89 said:
Risonax said:
In some cases, the cars are dumped because they can't get anyone to fix them. In other cases, the owner has died, and no one wants the car; there is a tradition in the region of homes (palaces really)mbeing abandoned after a death (Bahrain was full of crumbling towers).
The Maseratis were most likely to be abandoned because of a lack of trained mechanics.
Probably the fate of this Aston Martin; something broke and they don't know how to fix it.
It all begs the question as to why there is not a steady flow of these back to Europe?The Maseratis were most likely to be abandoned because of a lack of trained mechanics.
Probably the fate of this Aston Martin; something broke and they don't know how to fix it.
Turbobanana said:
Risonax said:
In some cases, the cars are dumped because they can't get anyone to fix them. In other cases, the owner has died, and no one wants the car; there is a tradition in the region of homes (palaces really)mbeing abandoned after a death (Bahrain was full of crumbling towers).
I thought it was to do with Sharia Law and the consequences of defaulting on loans / lease payments, no? Its not Sharia Law, but Debtor Laws left over from when Britain ran the place. we used to lock up people writjng bad cheques and defaulting on loans. In recent years, the UAE has been flooded with young Westerners, a different breed from the expats in the 70s and 80s, who brought a cheap car locally and salted away their earnings. These young Westerners think Western values and behaviour work over their (hence the numbers arrested for public indecency on the beach.....). And also an explosion of frankly dodgy businesses in the Emirates fronted by some young Brit who didn't realise the company cheques he was signing were all bouncing. But its his name on the cheque.
These young expats are buying particular kinds of cars that doesn't include Rolls and Royce and Grosser.
In many cases, these cars got abandoned because something broke on them that couldn't be fixed. And then they were forgotten
And some cars just get down on their luck. Like this US-spec S-Class (a top of the line one in a lurid shade of 70s green), with the coathanger wire holding on the exhaust
Just think of the final days of this 911 when they decided to park it up by the open sewer
Yertis said:
Risonax said:
Jaguar XJs are actually fairly rare in the region.
That’s because their A/C wasn’t up to the job. It’s the number one priority in a limousine out there, everything else of secondary importance.
Range Rovers sold well there, with hopeless aircon systems. Rover tried to sell SD1s there as well, without much luck. I think the basic reason is the Jag and Rover weren't big enough.
TikTak said:
captain.scarlet said:
TikTak said:
Certainly is one by my standards. No one-size-fits-all when it comes to classics.With those number plates in that typeface and dimensions (pre-September 2001) there's a car at least 21 years old there.
Those number plates are likely to be original dealer number plates as well, which IMO add a more original touch, in contrast with aftermarket number plates.
A shame it's sat there. Only so many of these in original spec/condition remaining.
Can't quite see it I realized but I know the plate is W998 MGM. MOT expired June 2016 so I assume its been there since then. It also only has 25k miles on it on its 2015 MOT which adds to the sadness I think.
Risonax said:
Willhire89 said:
Risonax said:
In some cases, the cars are dumped because they can't get anyone to fix them. In other cases, the owner has died, and no one wants the car; there is a tradition in the region of homes (palaces really)mbeing abandoned after a death (Bahrain was full of crumbling towers).
The Maseratis were most likely to be abandoned because of a lack of trained mechanics.
Probably the fate of this Aston Martin; something broke and they don't know how to fix it.
It all begs the question as to why there is not a steady flow of these back to Europe?The Maseratis were most likely to be abandoned because of a lack of trained mechanics.
Probably the fate of this Aston Martin; something broke and they don't know how to fix it.
It is a very long time ago now but everyone thought Colin Crabbe was crazy even trying to get cars out of Cuba but with the right people b(r)ought onside he liberated a number of very important machines and then did the same elsewhere.
Willhire89 said:
Risonax said:
Willhire89 said:
Risonax said:
In some cases, the cars are dumped because they can't get anyone to fix them. In other cases, the owner has died, and no one wants the car; there is a tradition in the region of homes (palaces really)mbeing abandoned after a death (Bahrain was full of crumbling towers).
The Maseratis were most likely to be abandoned because of a lack of trained mechanics.
Probably the fate of this Aston Martin; something broke and they don't know how to fix it.
It all begs the question as to why there is not a steady flow of these back to Europe?The Maseratis were most likely to be abandoned because of a lack of trained mechanics.
Probably the fate of this Aston Martin; something broke and they don't know how to fix it.
Risonax said:
Airport limo services, Riyadh, circa 1977. Will you take the Rolls sir, or the hotter than hades Chevrolet
Range Rovers sold well there, with hopeless aircon systems. Rover tried to sell SD1s there as well, without much luck. I think the basic reason is the Jag and Rover weren't big enough.
I was out there through the ‘90s, with NCB. The local guys drove BMWs or Mercs; I think they liked Jags - a lot of them had been educated in the UK - but the a/c thing was the reason cited for going german.Range Rovers sold well there, with hopeless aircon systems. Rover tried to sell SD1s there as well, without much luck. I think the basic reason is the Jag and Rover weren't big enough.
Risonax said:
Yertis said:
Risonax said:
Jaguar XJs are actually fairly rare in the region.
That’s because their A/C wasn’t up to the job. It’s the number one priority in a limousine out there, everything else of secondary importance.Range Rovers sold well there, with hopeless aircon systems. Rover tried to sell SD1s there as well, without much luck. I think the basic reason is the Jag and Rover weren't big enough.
I remember in the early 80s the British Embassy had a number of truly woeful US spec SD1s that were, ostensibly to replace some aging and venerable Rover P5s. The Embassy was then hanging onto the P5s for as long as possible because the mechanics, drivers and the diplomats at the Embassy all hated the SD1s
Risonax said:
Doofus said:
Skyedriver said:
The Muira, the Maserati, why, just why, more money than sense
It's got nothing to do with sense.The Maseratis were most likely to be abandoned because of a lack of trained mechanics.
Probably the fate of this Aston Martin; something broke and they don't know how to fix it.
Cars where something broke or they were just forgotten when Grandpa died
Saudi Ferrari workshop, early 80s. This is why Ferraris ended up, broken down unfixed
As a kid growing up over there I recall dad's Range Rover. He brought it off a member of the local royal family who was hard up. In truth, it was a pretty shabby example at 4 years old (1978 model). It needed work on the suspension and engine, so he dropped it off at the local Land Rover agent, who was also the agent for Rolls, Jaguar, Rover, Lotus, Aston Martin, Ferrari etc. The workshop was a series of pits with a tin roof on top. The car was in there for over a month, waiting on parts from the UK. Finally got it back, drove off into Manama traffic. Instantly over heated. Popped the hood. Rad cap left off, mechanic tools everywhere. The bill near bankrupted him, and the car was still sitting on its arse, as they never fixed the self leveler. There after he found an Indian mechanic in the local village who had been an army articifer, ie he could make parts from scratch.
Certainly in the 80s, there was vast amounts being spent on glitzy infrastructure, but things just packed up after a few years as there was zero maintenance; contractors came up, built the hotel, hospital etc, then left. So not surprised to see expensive looking cars succumbing to mechanical maladies. And Royal families there had several levels, and there were a lot of family members. And some weren't as wealthy as they made out; they fronted a lot but couldn't really afford what they had.
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