RE: Top Gear TV gains McGuinness and Flintoff

RE: Top Gear TV gains McGuinness and Flintoff

Monday 22nd October 2018

Top Gear TV gains McGuinness and Flintoff

BBC confirms presenter switch-up as Matt LeBlanc stands down and Rory Reid moves onto Extra Gear exclusively



Just as Top Gear TV felt like it was getting back into its stride, another major change has been instigated in its presenter line-up. Matt Le Blanc's replacement - or rather replacements - have been announced as comedian Paddy McGuinness and cricketing legend Andrew Flintoff. Hands up who saw that coming?

The duo will fill Le Blanc and Rory Reid's roles, with the former standing down so he can spend more time back home and the latter moving to focus on BBC Three's Extra Gear. There is some continuity, though, with the incumbent Chris Harris remaining - which, we're sure, most here will agree is very good news.

What does the shakeup mean for Top Gear's future? It's a shame that we'll lose the on-screen rapport built up between Le Blanc and Harris, don't you think? The last season in particular saw these two, both genuine car enthusiasts from vastly different backgrounds, producing some truly excellent television, engaging and entertaining in a seemingly unchoreographed way. Their chemistry was starting to feel more natural than the caricatured on-screen relationships of Clarkson, Hammond and May, it was like Top Gear TV had found its stride again, although this time it was more mature. And more about cars.

That the announcement of McGuinness and Flintoff as the new lead presenters has been met with a mixed response is therefore unsurprising. You have to question if this 'entertainment show' will be able to remain consistently smart and in-depth enough with its new line-up to appeal to petrolheads, whilst still entertaining the masses the BBC so desperately wants to cling onto. Either way, the upcoming 26th series will mark the close of a short but sweet high point in Top Gear TV's turbulent recent history. Whether the seasons that come next will be able to build on that legacy, we'll have to wait and see.

PHers are already discussing the new Top Gear presenters in the forums here.

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Chestrockwell

Original Poster:

2,627 posts

157 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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I know Top Gear is an entertainment show and it isn’t all about car knowledge for us petrolheads however I can’t help but think it’s not right having Chris Harris on there, who may as well be a God in the motoring world and a loose cannon like Flintoff, the man went from cricket to presenting to boxing to travelling to whatever it was. He’s just taking anything he can get.

I’m not saying Chris Harris should go back to YouTube but I wish he had his own show or own thing, maybe with 1 presenter and he’d be the main focus. I’d always watch top gear on the iplayer and fast forward any part without Chris Harris.


Mr Whippy

29,029 posts

241 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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The BBC have no idea what they’re doing.

It’s like the late 90s all over again, but worse, as they’re trying to rejuvenate the 2005-2015 era with people who know sod all about cars.
The big phenomenon that was TG is over.

Time to regroup and just make a good solid car show on BBC2 imo.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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The hammering you can hear, it is Flintoff and McGuinness nailing the lid firmly down on Top Gear as it is well and truly dead.

JaredVannett

1,561 posts

143 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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Chestrockwell said:
I know Top Gear is an entertainment show and it isn’t all about car knowledge for us petrolheads however I can’t help but think it’s not right having Chris Harris on there, who may as well be a God in the motoring world and a loose cannon like Flintoff, the man went from cricket to presenting to boxing to travelling to whatever it was. He’s just taking anything he can get.

I’m not saying Chris Harris should go back to YouTube but I wish he had his own show or own thing, maybe with 1 presenter and he’d be the main focus. I’d always watch top gear on the iplayer and fast forward any part without Chris Harris.
Actually, I wish he would give up and return to YouTube... his content is soo watered down.

At the beeb he is forced to appeal to the lowest common denominator in the interest of not boring the audience to tears about steering feel, and discussion on suspension etc.

I appreciate he gets a nice steady paycheck vs YouTube but his content between the two really are worlds apart.

Come back to youtube monkey!

Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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I don't think their choice of Ferraris bodes well for their petrolhead credentials.

Edited by Gameface on Monday 22 October 13:18

DomesticM

335 posts

74 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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No chance I'll be watching that.

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

81 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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I could think of worse people to go on Top Gear, but McGuinness and Flintoff are definitely in the top 1.

carjerk

127 posts

184 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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Such a shame to hear this. I was really starting to enjoy watching the last three (Harris, Reid, and LeBlanc) build some chemistry between each other.

daytona111r

769 posts

204 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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What a mess. BBC should remember that the old trio were all car guys and journos, not 'TV personalities.' Watch the Ferrari 812 Superfast test by Matt LeBlanc and you'll see why this is such a bad idea - his vocabulary and ability to describe the car degenerated to that of a 12 year old.

And there are other car guys out there who would be entertaining and know what they're talking about. Jason Plato and Guy Martin would have been my pick.


anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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I don't understand this decision really. I haven't seen enough of Lord Flintoff as a tv presenter to say if he's going to be any good, but McGuinness, no thanks! I thought that the three of them had really started to get it together and it seemed to be working well. Rory has improved massively and Chris (IMO) needed to get back to his more serious car commentary like his youtube stuff, rather than just being a foil for the jokes?

The whole TV format is drifting it seems, plenty of content online which is actually decent. Watching things like Harry's Garage and 44 Teeth is the norm for me now, although Top Gear, Fifth Gear, Gran Tour etc are always fun to have around.

I hope McGuinness isn't as bad as I fear, I am sure they'll be a cull if the ratings nose dive.

nyxster

1,452 posts

171 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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Guy Martin + Chris Harris + Mark Webber would have been the best choice imho.

daytona111r

769 posts

204 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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JaredVannett said:
Actually, I wish he would give up and return to YouTube... his content is soo watered down.

At the beeb he is forced to appeal to the lowest common denominator in the interest of not boring the audience to tears about steering feel, and discussion on suspension etc.

I appreciate he gets a nice steady paycheck vs YouTube but his content between the two really are worlds apart.

Come back to youtube monkey!
Hopefully CH will do a bit more extended TG online stuff which he was beginning to do

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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Christ when I read the title I thought it meant John McGuiness not Paddy!

Edited by LaurasOtherHalf on Monday 22 October 14:25

MB140

4,064 posts

103 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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FFS banghead

I can see Flintoff already running around trying to pull paddy’s trousers down and doing a cheeky chappy northern monkey thing in front of cars he has no clue about.

Bring back Chris Evans if not LeBlanc, at least he had an interest in cars (I can’t believe I have just written that).

That’s the coffin firmly nailed on TG.

Edmundo2

1,343 posts

210 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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Harris, Coogan, Webber..

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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And now despite Chris Harris, Caties Amazing Machines on CBeebies is the BBC's premier motoring program.

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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Just give up on it. The programme that worked (and what they would have to do to resurrect it) doesn't fit with BBC culture and values and the reboots are just embarrassing. Take it outside and shoot it.

SeeFive

8,280 posts

233 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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Watched one TG since the three musketeers left under Clarkson’s bullying cloud. I really did. It like it at all, seemed forced and just not cohesive between the presenters. So I didn’t watch any more - did watch the Grand Tour though as I already had Amazon Prime.

It may be that I have not seen the better / 2nd series episodes, but I don’t think a change of presenters will be much of an improvement in terms of the TG show format, but fail to see how the presenters can be less of a team than the ones they replace.

For me, TG with Clarkson and Co was about that camaraderie / rivalry that seemed to exist between the presenters, scripted or not it was entertaining at times.

Blayney

2,948 posts

186 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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nyxster said:
Guy Martin + Chris Harris + Mark Webber would have been the best choice imho.
Filthy.

Filthy good.

Chestrockwell

Original Poster:

2,627 posts

157 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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JaredVannett said:
Chestrockwell said:
I know Top Gear is an entertainment show and it isn’t all about car knowledge for us petrolheads however I can’t help but think it’s not right having Chris Harris on there, who may as well be a God in the motoring world and a loose cannon like Flintoff, the man went from cricket to presenting to boxing to travelling to whatever it was. He’s just taking anything he can get.

I’m not saying Chris Harris should go back to YouTube but I wish he had his own show or own thing, maybe with 1 presenter and he’d be the main focus. I’d always watch top gear on the iplayer and fast forward any part without Chris Harris.
Actually, I wish he would give up and return to YouTube... his content is soo watered down.

At the beeb he is forced to appeal to the lowest common denominator in the interest of not boring the audience to tears about steering feel, and discussion on suspension etc.

I appreciate he gets a nice steady paycheck vs YouTube but his content between the two really are worlds apart.

Come back to youtube monkey!
Well I guess I should have said, I don’t expect him go back to YouTube for the reasons you provided, steady pay check (probably a lot), film crew and unlimited resources to create any content he likes.

He started on YouTube years ago, how is it, someone like Shmee is milking the game, flying like 100 times a year to different launches and press reviews and what not while appearing to make good money out of it.

I mean of course, time is what it is and he does a family but I can’t help but think, somewhere along the line, he missed a trick in the YouTube game, his content was brilliant and drew millions of views, what went wrong