COOL CLASSIC CAR SPOTTERS POST! (Vol 3)

[Gojira]

Rumblestripe said:

A fine looking car and no doubt satisfying/entertaining to drive but a "classic" (as suggested by the thread title) it aint. It's not even extraordinarily well maintained as far as I can tell.

It is difficult to define what a classic car is, or when a car becomes "classic". Distinctiveness and desirability push a vehicle into the category earlier than ubiquity. So a 2000 Audi TT is probably on the cusp of classic status, if it isn't there already, but a 2000 Vauxhall Zafira has a long way to go. But if you attend classic car shows you will know that things like a Viva HC attract a lot of interest and affection so the Zafira will get there. Some clever chap/lady somewhere needs to create a mathematical formula to test for Classic status.

It is my carefully considered opinion that "What is a Classic Car?" is a question much like "What is Science Fiction?"

There are more definitions than there are fans of either, but everyone knows what they are when they see them!

In both cases, the discussion and friendly argument are all part of the fun...

That's my opinion, and it is worth exactly what you have paid for it

[Doofus]

Gojira said:

Rumblestripe said:

A fine looking car and no doubt satisfying/entertaining to drive but a "classic" (as suggested by the thread title) it aint. It's not even extraordinarily well maintained as far as I can tell.

It is difficult to define what a classic car is, or when a car becomes "classic". Distinctiveness and desirability push a vehicle into the category earlier than ubiquity. So a 2000 Audi TT is probably on the cusp of classic status, if it isn't there already, but a 2000 Vauxhall Zafira has a long way to go. But if you attend classic car shows you will know that things like a Viva HC attract a lot of interest and affection so the Zafira will get there. Some clever chap/lady somewhere needs to create a mathematical formula to test for Classic status.

It is my carefully considered opinion that "What is a Classic Car?" is a question much like "What is Science Fiction?"

There are more definitions than there are fans of either, but everyone knows what they are when they see them!

In both cases, the discussion and friendly argument are all part of the fun...

That's my opinion, and it is worth exactly what you have paid for it

'Classic' can only be a definition based on age. As soon as you try to define classic using desirability as a criterion, everyone disagrees.

Few people, me included, would argue that a Morris Minor isn't a classic. I don't like them, and I don't want one, but that doesn't mean I don't think of it as a classic car.

[Rumblestripe]

Doofus said:

Gojira said:

Rumblestripe said:

A fine looking car and no doubt satisfying/entertaining to drive but a "classic" (as suggested by the thread title) it aint. It's not even extraordinarily well maintained as far as I can tell.

It is difficult to define what a classic car is, or when a car becomes "classic". Distinctiveness and desirability push a vehicle into the category earlier than ubiquity. So a 2000 Audi TT is probably on the cusp of classic status, if it isn't there already, but a 2000 Vauxhall Zafira has a long way to go. But if you attend classic car shows you will know that things like a Viva HC attract a lot of interest and affection so the Zafira will get there. Some clever chap/lady somewhere needs to create a mathematical formula to test for Classic status.

It is my carefully considered opinion that "What is a Classic Car?" is a question much like "What is Science Fiction?"

There are more definitions than there are fans of either, but everyone knows what they are when they see them!

In both cases, the discussion and friendly argument are all part of the fun...

That's my opinion, and it is worth exactly what you have paid for it

'Classic' can only be a definition based on age. As soon as you try to define classic using desirability as a criterion, everyone disagrees.

Few people, me included, would argue that a Morris Minor isn't a classic. I don't like them, and I don't want one, but that doesn't mean I don't think of it as a classic car.

Perhaps there needs to be a financial measure? Values of vehicles go down until they achieve a desirability that rebounds their value through rarity. Moggies are a good example. Through the early 70s you couldn't give them away and then without anyone sounding a bell, values of convertibles started to climb, then travellers before finally the boggo saloons. So age was only part of the equation. Escorts are another good example, two door body shells, mk1s, RS2000s then the mk2s, the four doors, the estates and the boggo 1.3L models. In each case a desirable model is first to stop losing value and then start accumulating it. Porsche 911 is another case 964 models were the poor relation of the family for a long time but now are as desirable as any and undeniably a classic. Targa? No thanks mate. Etc.

It is certainly more complicated than age.

[DickyC]

How about:



in Didsbury.

/devilsadvocate

[aeropilot]

DickyC said:

How about:



in Didsbury.

Lovely V4......

Unusual colour as well for a V4.

[Pericoloso]

aeropilot said:

DickyC said:

How about:



in Didsbury.

Lovely V4......

Unusual colour as well for a V4.

SAAB had some good colours in the 70s and some awful ones in the 80s, "cameo beige" being the latter.

[vixen1700]

Leytonstone Tesco car-park earlier this afternoon. Sounded lovely when it pulled away.

Edited by vixen1700 on Sunday 24th November 16:49

[Rumblestripe]

DickyC said:

How about:



in Didsbury.

/devilsadvocate

Love it, thought the photo would look good as a "Colour Pop"

[Pericoloso]

There's hardly any difference ^^^^ in grey Englandtown.....

Dominos sign and Jazz rear lights.

[DickyC]

Despite appearances it did have wheels.

[aeropilot]

DickyC said:

Despite appearances it did have wheels.

Its wearing a set of the Saab 'Soccerball' alloys.

[Doofus]

DickyC said:

Despite appearances it did have wheels.

More people need to know about Renaud Marion

[Pericoloso]

Doofus said:

DickyC said:

Despite appearances it did have wheels.

More people need to know about Renaud Marion

Inventor of the retro hover car ?....

[wl606]

vixen1700 said:

Leytonstone Tesco car-park earlier this afternoon. Sounded lovely when it pulled away.

Edited by vixen1700 on Sunday 24th November 16:49

Should be in a Moderns dwarfed by classics thread.

[TR4man]

vixen1700 said:

Leytonstone Tesco car-park earlier this afternoon. Sounded lovely when it pulled away.

Edited by vixen1700 on Sunday 24th November 16:49

That is fantastic!

Wonder how you'd change a rear tyre (doesn't seem to have spats)?

[aeropilot]

TR4man said:

vixen1700 said:

Leytonstone Tesco car-park earlier this afternoon. Sounded lovely when it pulled away.

Edited by vixen1700 on Sunday 24th November 16:49

That is fantastic!

Wonder how you'd change a rear tyre (doesn't seem to have spats)?

It does have them, just difficult to see with the dark colour and angle of the photo.

Easier to see in this shot of a '60 Caddy.

[pcn1]

aeropilot said:

It does have them, just difficult to see with the dark colour and angle of the photo.

Easier to see in this shot of a '60 Caddy.

From a time when car design was an Art form.

[lukeharding]

Spotted the Bentley in the Mercedes Benz World car park on Saturday morning (most likely there for the Historics auction) and spotted the 512 TR taking it easy on the M25 near J10 of the M25 earlier on that morning.

[CRA1G]

Love the colour of the Vantage.... that would definitely look well parked next to my little collection...

[Lily the Pink]

wl606 said:

vixen1700 said:

Leytonstone Tesco car-park earlier this afternoon. Sounded lovely when it pulled away.

Edited by vixen1700 on Sunday 24th November 16:49

Should be in a Moderns dwarfed by classics thread.

Must be a gift for the Bad Parking thread walts.