COOL CLASSIC CAR SPOTTERS POST! (Vol 3)
COOL CLASSIC CAR SPOTTERS POST! (Vol 3)
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Dapster

8,909 posts

204 months

Monday 9th March
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gt40steve said:
The last Dagenham built Cortina was retained for the Ford Heritage fleet.
A silver Crusader which was driven off the production line by the Chairman of Ford of Britain, Sam Toy.



Chrome bumpers on the single colour cars & black bumpers on the two tone ones.
I had no idea Alexie Sayle was Chairman of Ford of Britain!

gt40steve

1,267 posts

128 months

Monday 9th March
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Dapster said:
gt40steve said:
The last Dagenham built Cortina was retained for the Ford Heritage fleet.
A silver Crusader which was driven off the production line by the Chairman of Ford of Britain, Sam Toy.



Chrome bumpers on the single colour cars & black bumpers on the two tone ones.
I had no idea Alexie Sayle was Chairman of Ford of Britain!
Like it !
Here's Sir Sam Toy




Rumblestripe

3,884 posts

186 months

Monday 9th March
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It sort of makes me wonder why Ford chose to name the electric blob SUV thing "Capri" instead of the more appropriate "Cortina"? Aside from the Mk3 they were largely functional boxy things for families rather than an affordable "sporty" coupe. Just a thought.

RATATTAK

17,950 posts

213 months

Monday 9th March
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Rumblestripe said:
It sort of makes me wonder why Ford chose to name the electric blob SUV thing "Capri" instead of the more appropriate "Cortina"? Aside from the Mk3 they were largely functional boxy things for families rather than an affordable "sporty" coupe. Just a thought.
Decision probably made in the USA to match the Mustang EV decision.

Rob 131 Sport

4,473 posts

76 months

Monday 9th March
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gt40steve said:
The last Dagenham built Cortina was retained for the Ford Heritage fleet.
A silver Crusader which was driven off the production line by the Chairman of Ford of Britain, Sam Toy.



Chrome bumpers on the single colour cars & black bumpers on the two tone ones.
The Crusader was specified like the GL. The Ghia was the only one to have in a MK5. With the MK4 the Ghia and ‘S’ were the ones to have.

gt40steve

1,267 posts

128 months

Tuesday 10th March
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Rob 131 Sport said:
gt40steve said:
The last Dagenham built Cortina was retained for the Ford Heritage fleet.
A silver Crusader which was driven off the production line by the Chairman of Ford of Britain, Sam Toy.



Chrome bumpers on the single colour cars & black bumpers on the two tone ones.
The Crusader was specified like the GL. The Ghia was the only one to have in a MK5. With the MK4 the Ghia and S were the ones to have.
Crusader was a Cortina L with alot of GL & Ghia thrown at it.
It betters the GL with it's full centre console and arm rest, Ghia wood trim, Ghia door trims with the larger armrest / door pull & I think the Ghia carpet too.
They were good value and for what you got sat between the GL and Ghia in my opinion.

Cortina people would argue that a L or GL with the optional S pack is desirable especially if ordered with the optional Recaro seats. There were also some Ghias with S pack.

Simpler times and simpler cars !

V12 Migaloo

1,101 posts

170 months

Tuesday 10th March
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I always thought the Crusader was a Daily Mail special!

gt40steve

1,267 posts

128 months

Tuesday 10th March
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V12 Migaloo said:
I always thought the Crusader was a Daily Mail special!
Daily Express !
Sir Sam Toy was a friend of the boss, Vic Matthews. The only arrangement as far as I am aware was that Ford were allowed to use the 'Crusader' emblem.

trails

6,689 posts

173 months

Tuesday 10th March
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gt40steve said:
Rob 131 Sport said:
gt40steve said:
The last Dagenham built Cortina was retained for the Ford Heritage fleet.
A silver Crusader which was driven off the production line by the Chairman of Ford of Britain, Sam Toy.



Chrome bumpers on the single colour cars & black bumpers on the two tone ones.
The Crusader was specified like the GL. The Ghia was the only one to have in a MK5. With the MK4 the Ghia and S were the ones to have.
Crusader was a Cortina L with alot of GL & Ghia thrown at it.
It betters the GL with it's full centre console and arm rest, Ghia wood trim, Ghia door trims with the larger armrest / door pull & I think the Ghia carpet too.
They were good value and for what you got sat between the GL and Ghia in my opinion.

Cortina people would argue that a L or GL with the optional S pack is desirable especially if ordered with the optional Recaro seats. There were also some Ghias with S pack.

Simpler times and simpler cars !
My dad had a GLS with the fishnets in them smile

swisstoni

22,692 posts

303 months

Tuesday 10th March
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Kinky.

DodgyGeezer

46,973 posts

214 months

Tuesday 10th March
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swisstoni said:
Kinky.
rofl

trails

6,689 posts

173 months

Tuesday 10th March
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DodgyGeezer said:
swisstoni said:
Kinky.
rofl
and another rofl

Still Mulling

15,868 posts

201 months

Tuesday 10th March
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swisstoni said:
Kinky.
hehe

Yertis

19,568 posts

290 months

Tuesday 10th March
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Dapster said:
gt40steve said:
The last Dagenham built Cortina was retained for the Ford Heritage fleet.
A silver Crusader which was driven off the production line by the Chairman of Ford of Britain, Sam Toy.



Chrome bumpers on the single colour cars & black bumpers on the two tone ones.
I had no idea Alexie Sayle was Chairman of Ford of Britain!
Does anyone else remember his documentary about the Cortina? Made when the Sierra was 'about to drop', as youngsters say nowadays.

Ah, here it is:




Rob 131 Sport

4,473 posts

76 months

Tuesday 10th March
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gt40steve said:
Rob 131 Sport said:
gt40steve said:
The last Dagenham built Cortina was retained for the Ford Heritage fleet.
A silver Crusader which was driven off the production line by the Chairman of Ford of Britain, Sam Toy.



Chrome bumpers on the single colour cars & black bumpers on the two tone ones.
The Crusader was specified like the GL. The Ghia was the only one to have in a MK5. With the MK4 the Ghia and S were the ones to have.
Crusader was a Cortina L with alot of GL & Ghia thrown at it.
It betters the GL with it's full centre console and arm rest, Ghia wood trim, Ghia door trims with the larger armrest / door pull & I think the Ghia carpet too.
They were good value and for what you got sat between the GL and Ghia in my opinion.

Cortina people would argue that a L or GL with the optional S pack is desirable especially if ordered with the optional Recaro seats. There were also some Ghias with S pack.

Simpler times and simpler cars !
The Crusader was definitely a lot closer to GL than Ghia, lacking the Stripes, Two Tone Velour, Tinted Glass, Sunroof and the most important Alloy Wheels and a Rev Counter.

I-am-the-reverend

1,534 posts

59 months

Tuesday 10th March
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Rob 131 Sport said:
gt40steve said:
The last Dagenham built Cortina was retained for the Ford Heritage fleet.
A silver Crusader which was driven off the production line by the Chairman of Ford of Britain, Sam Toy.



Chrome bumpers on the single colour cars & black bumpers on the two tone ones.
The Crusader was specified like the GL. The Ghia was the only one to have in a MK5. With the MK4 the Ghia and S were the ones to have.
The Crusader was pretty much Ghia spec - the velour trim and wood capped doors. Ford were chucking everything on before it went in the bin. I used to service a Y plate 1.6 in Cardinal red over silver. That would be 1986-89. Quite a nice car. Until you drove a basic 1.6 Sierra, whereupon it all became clear.
I liked the Cortina as a no nonsense easy to fix car but the Sierra was a massive leap forward.

bolidemichael

17,645 posts

225 months

Tuesday 10th March
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gt40steve

1,267 posts

128 months

Tuesday 10th March
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Rob 131 Sport said:
gt40steve said:
Rob 131 Sport said:
gt40steve said:
The last Dagenham built Cortina was retained for the Ford Heritage fleet.
A silver Crusader which was driven off the production line by the Chairman of Ford of Britain, Sam Toy.



Chrome bumpers on the single colour cars & black bumpers on the two tone ones.
The Crusader was specified like the GL. The Ghia was the only one to have in a MK5. With the MK4 the Ghia and S were the ones to have.
Crusader was a Cortina L with alot of GL & Ghia thrown at it.
It betters the GL with it's full centre console and arm rest, Ghia wood trim, Ghia door trims with the larger armrest / door pull & I think the Ghia carpet too.
They were good value and for what you got sat between the GL and Ghia in my opinion.

Cortina people would argue that a L or GL with the optional S pack is desirable especially if ordered with the optional Recaro seats. There were also some Ghias with S pack.

Simpler times and simpler cars !
The Crusader was definitely a lot closer to GL than Ghia, lacking the Stripes, Two Tone Velour, Tinted Glass, Sunroof and the most important Alloy Wheels and a Rev Counter.
The GL also lacked stripes, sun roof, alloy wheels and rev counter. (Crusader naturally had Crusader stripes !)

Looking from the other direction the GL didn't have much over the Crusader other than tinted glass, overriders, intermittent wipe, available S pack & 2.3 V6, a boot lamp, and halogen headlamps.

Aswell as the available two tone paintwork, opening the door of a Crusader and looking inside knocks the GL out of the park. Cut pile carpet & centre armrest from the Ghia, Ghia door trims with wood veneer cappings, carpeted door bottoms, folding map pockets & the big armrests. Ghia style seat trim. A great first impression.

As you rightly say Ghia is obviously king of the castle, with such niceties as electric aerial, electric mirrors and even a radio cassette player !







Dapster

8,909 posts

204 months

Tuesday 10th March
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You can nerd out to your hearts content here

https://autocatalogarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/...

https://autocatalogarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/...

Have memories of trips to school in my mates dad's red 2 door Cortina 1.3 "saloon" - the spec level below "L" - absolutely billy basic. 2 spoke wheel, vinyl seats, no headrests, single door mirror. Pre facelift with the flat front and smaller rear tail lights - ALL 614T. He was a rep in the farm feed business and did about a million miles a year - this thing was the most dismal form of transport - imagine having to ply the roads of rural England all day in that.

Rob 131 Sport

4,473 posts

76 months

Tuesday 10th March
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Dapster said:
You can nerd out to your hearts content here

https://autocatalogarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/...

https://autocatalogarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/...

Have memories of trips to school in my mates dad's red 2 door Cortina 1.3 "saloon" - the spec level below "L" - absolutely billy basic. 2 spoke wheel, vinyl seats, no headrests, single door mirror. Pre facelift with the flat front and smaller rear tail lights - ALL 614T. He was a rep in the farm feed business and did about a million miles a year - this thing was the most dismal form of transport - imagine having to ply the roads of rural England all day in that.
Thanks for sharing. As a 17 year old in 1990 I’ve never quite got over being out bid on a 1981 W Reg Cortina 2.3 Ghia Saloon.

The following week I bought a Mk3 Ford Capri 1.6S that was a real disappointment. Some money for my 18th birthday and the purchase of a Mirafiori Sport and memories of the disappointing Capri were soon eclipsed.