Electrifying Classic Cars
Discussion
Subtle Shakermaker said:
But for a Ferrari... I wouldn't do that.
Brace yourself! https://www.heritagecarinsurance.co.uk/newsroom/ne...alfaspecial said:
Agree. Another point to consider is IVA https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/individ...
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"You must apply for vehicle approval if you’ve:
built a vehicle
rebuilt a vehicle
radically altered a vehicle
reconstructed a classic vehicle
imported a vehicle"
Depends how you do it... Quote
"You must apply for vehicle approval if you’ve:
built a vehicle
rebuilt a vehicle
radically altered a vehicle
reconstructed a classic vehicle
imported a vehicle"
Most companies and people will do it the easiest/cheapest route, in which case it'll be "simply" an engine change. You're changing the fuel cell for electric cells, and the IC engine for an electric motor. Suspension/brakes/gearbox/axles wont change, and everything else that you'd change for an engine swap would be done anyway (new rad, water pump, throttle actuation, flywheel+clutch, wiring harness and coolant pipes). you can either limit the power/torque on acceleration to avoid destroying your clutch/gearbox or use it as a preselect and hope nothing s
ts itself. Personally I don't see the problem. Sure if you've got something really rare and original, but if you have a 2cv, beetle, minor, A35 etc then it's your car and you can do as you please, there's still hundreds out there available cheaply. If I was to do it, I'd make sure it was all reversible and keep the original parts in storage as you never know what the future holds!
an E-mini would be desirable to a lot of people, but the drivetrain layout is slightly more complex.
warp9 said:
Shakermaker said:
But for a Ferrari... I wouldn't do that.
Brace yourself! https://www.heritagecarinsurance.co.uk/newsroom/ne...win win in my books
no traction problems lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi7Pi7MTH1U
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Wednesday 14th August 12:45
Ambleton said:
Depends how you do it...
Most companies and people will do it the easiest/cheapest route, in which case it'll be "simply" an engine change. You're changing the fuel cell for electric cells, and the IC engine for an electric motor. Suspension/brakes/gearbox/axles wont change, and everything else that you'd change for an engine swap would be done anyway (new rad, water pump, throttle actuation, flywheel+clutch, wiring harness and coolant pipes). you can either limit the power/torque on acceleration to avoid destroying your clutch/gearbox or use it as a preselect and hope nothing sts itself.
Personally I don't see the problem. Sure if you've got something really rare and original, but if you have a 2cv, beetle, minor, A35 etc then it's your car and you can do as you please, there's still hundreds out there available cheaply. If I was to do it, I'd make sure it was all reversible and keep the original parts in storage as you never know what the future holds!
an E-mini would be desirable to a lot of people, but the drivetrain layout is slightly more complex.
People can do what the hell they like. I really don't see much of a market for battery powered classics.Most companies and people will do it the easiest/cheapest route, in which case it'll be "simply" an engine change. You're changing the fuel cell for electric cells, and the IC engine for an electric motor. Suspension/brakes/gearbox/axles wont change, and everything else that you'd change for an engine swap would be done anyway (new rad, water pump, throttle actuation, flywheel+clutch, wiring harness and coolant pipes). you can either limit the power/torque on acceleration to avoid destroying your clutch/gearbox or use it as a preselect and hope nothing s
ts itself. Personally I don't see the problem. Sure if you've got something really rare and original, but if you have a 2cv, beetle, minor, A35 etc then it's your car and you can do as you please, there's still hundreds out there available cheaply. If I was to do it, I'd make sure it was all reversible and keep the original parts in storage as you never know what the future holds!
an E-mini would be desirable to a lot of people, but the drivetrain layout is slightly more complex.
T-195 said:
Yertis said:
T-195 said:
Any linkys to said proposal??
Yes I’d like to see those tooMeanwhile, Comrade Corbyn is a Climate Change Sceptic.
warch said:
Where does it say that the Labour party are in favour in banning private car ownership?
the conclusion of the comrades think tankhttps://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-7...
starting in london of course, but easily expanded to a national scheme
Corbyn's Unified National Transportation System
Dave Hedgehog said:
warch said:
Where does it say that the Labour party are in favour in banning private car ownership?
the conclusion of the comrades think tankhttps://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-7...
starting in london of course, but easily expanded to a national scheme
Corbyn's Unified National Transportation System
Dave Hedgehog said:
warp9 said:
Shakermaker said:
But for a Ferrari... I wouldn't do that.
Brace yourself! https://www.heritagecarinsurance.co.uk/newsroom/ne...win win in my books
no traction problems lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi7Pi7MTH1U
I'm sorry but this is PH - as a car enthusiast if this is what you truly believe, then i'm very sad.
Surely the whole point of this car and a majority of performance classics is the engine and specifically the aural benefits which make the car what it is.
Removing its heart is like sharing a bed with a supermodel but exchanging her for an identical manikin or automatron to avoid the tantrums!
Andy JB said:
I'm sorry but this is PH - as a car enthusiast if this is what you truly believe, then i'm very sad.
Surely the whole point of this car and a majority of performance classics is the engine and specifically the aural benefits which make the car what it is.
Removing its heart is like sharing a bed with a supermodel but exchanging her for an identical manikin or automatron to avoid the tantrums!
where can i buy a supermodel automaton, asking for a friendSurely the whole point of this car and a majority of performance classics is the engine and specifically the aural benefits which make the car what it is.
Removing its heart is like sharing a bed with a supermodel but exchanging her for an identical manikin or automatron to avoid the tantrums!
you can always play the sound through some sort of speaker arrangement like BMW and Audi do
That 308 looks Group B levels of fun to drive and it wont have an army of computers constantly adjusting everything to make you look good like a modern supercar
it looks better than any modern supercar, wont drive like a play-station simulator and will be very reliable and will save the polar bears
I would absolutely love to have an electric classic as a daily driver with cheap running costs. The car would also be all round faster and more reliable. Sadly at the moment it's crazy expensive, like >£15k.
But if you could find a good cheap donor classic which maybe had a blown engine & transmission... if only 70's 6 series BMWs were still cheap...
But if you could find a good cheap donor classic which maybe had a blown engine & transmission... if only 70's 6 series BMWs were still cheap...
jjwilde said:
I would absolutely love to have an electric classic as a daily driver with cheap running costs. ...
Where are you getting the cheap running costs from? You'll be paying top dollar to convert an already unreliable old car to electric power.Best of luck finding a buyer too when you sell.
Dave Hedgehog said:
warp9 said:
Shakermaker said:
But for a Ferrari... I wouldn't do that.
Brace yourself! https://www.heritagecarinsurance.co.uk/newsroom/ne...win win in my books
no traction problems lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi7Pi7MTH1U
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Wednesday 14th August 12:45
I can't understand why you'd want to remove the heart and soul from that car. His justification is that it makes it easier to drive, and admits the car is 'more engaging' with the engine. Why the bloody-hell else would you want to drive a Ferrari 308 if you don't want it to be engaging?? Its clearly the wrong car for you, so leave the poor thing alone and buy something new that drives itself.
NDNDNDND said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
warp9 said:
Shakermaker said:
But for a Ferrari... I wouldn't do that.
Brace yourself! https://www.heritagecarinsurance.co.uk/newsroom/ne...win win in my books
no traction problems lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi7Pi7MTH1U
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Wednesday 14th August 12:45
I can't understand why you'd want to remove the heart and soul from that car. His justification is that it makes it easier to drive, and admits the car is 'more engaging' with the engine. Why the bloody-hell else would you want to drive a Ferrari 308 if you don't want it to be engaging?? Its clearly the wrong car for you, so leave the poor thing alone and buy something new that drives itself.
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