Classic car daily driver?

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skwdenyer

16,490 posts

240 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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sparks_190e said:


My daily drive, love it to bits.
Fantastic beast!

skwdenyer

16,490 posts

240 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Yertis said:
Hippea said:
So, given the choice between a VW Beetle, Citroen 2cv and Morris Minor what do you think would be the best daily driver. This is taking into account initial cost, keeping it on the road, reliability, ease to live with etc.

It would cover around 6000 miles a year, no motorway use only B roads in a rural location.
Having owned/driven all three at one time or another I'd choose the 2CV every time:

1 Amazing ride
2 Sweet handling
3 Open top in summer
4 Sprightly performance within its own limits – nice revvy little engine.
5 Great in the snow and crap
6 Just great fun.

By comparison the others seemed turgid. I just don't get the love for Beetles at all. The Mog had its own charm but felt heavy and slow.

I'd get another 2CV tomorrow if I had the space. When I had the 2CV all I wanted was TR6 or Quattro (or a 308GTB4). Now I've got both of those I want a 2CV again. Driving a 2CV puts me in the same mellow place as when sailing a dinghy.
I’d second that. My parents drove all over the UK in a Dyane 4 (the smaller engine!) with toddler + babe in carrycot. I had a 2CV as a daily back in the 90s. You just have to drive flat out, plan ahead, and learn how to corner to the (high) limits whilst ignoring bodyroll.

I used to motorway mine weekly, roof down...

I still miss it - I paid £75 for it, and a few years later gave it away to a friend who was on his uppers & living in the sticks.

eccles

13,733 posts

222 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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skwdenyer said:
Yertis said:
Hippea said:
So, given the choice between a VW Beetle, Citroen 2cv and Morris Minor what do you think would be the best daily driver. This is taking into account initial cost, keeping it on the road, reliability, ease to live with etc.

It would cover around 6000 miles a year, no motorway use only B roads in a rural location.
Having owned/driven all three at one time or another I'd choose the 2CV every time:

1 Amazing ride
2 Sweet handling
3 Open top in summer
4 Sprightly performance within its own limits – nice revvy little engine.
5 Great in the snow and crap
6 Just great fun.

By comparison the others seemed turgid. I just don't get the love for Beetles at all. The Mog had its own charm but felt heavy and slow.

I'd get another 2CV tomorrow if I had the space. When I had the 2CV all I wanted was TR6 or Quattro (or a 308GTB4). Now I've got both of those I want a 2CV again. Driving a 2CV puts me in the same mellow place as when sailing a dinghy.
I’d second that. My parents drove all over the UK in a Dyane 4 (the smaller engine!) with toddler + babe in carrycot. I had a 2CV as a daily back in the 90s. You just have to drive flat out, plan ahead, and learn how to corner to the (high) limits whilst ignoring bodyroll.

I used to motorway mine weekly, roof down...

I still miss it - I paid £75 for it, and a few years later gave it away to a friend who was on his uppers & living in the sticks.
When I was a kid in the early 70's we had a Dyane 6 and we used to go between Swansea and London quite regularly in it. Great summer car as kids, standing up on the back seats with the roof open .
It ended up parked up on our drive as an MOT failure for years then in the late 80's a neighbours boyfriend asked my Dad about it and he said you can have it, the lad was dead chuffed!

21st Century Man

40,897 posts

248 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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I ran a 2CV as a daily for seven years (along with a Turbo R which I had for fifteen years). Vulnerability aside it was great. Fun to drive, astonishing grip and handling, lovely ride and very comfortable. A touch cramped though and heating/ventilation was woeful in winter. It was really cheap to run and cost almost pennies to service, I'm no mechanic but could DIY loads of things on it. It was lovely in the summer with the roof rolled back and was fine keeping up with modern traffic and it would sit at the limit on a motorway all day long. I also did a number of Continental tours in it too. After seven years I fancied a bit of power and luxury again so I sold it in May last year within two hours of putting it up for sale to the first enquirer, I got back what I paid for it despite putting 50K on it and the deterioration of using it as a daily. Great off roader too and brilliant in snow, comically so on a set of winters. I don't know whether I'd bother with having another but I'm so glad that one was part of my motoring life. It's one of those cars that imo every petrolhead should experience.

DonkeyApple

55,271 posts

169 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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I’ve told this story before on PH but I remember navigating around a large roundabout in standing water in 5 cylinder Passat trying to keep the nose going round only to be overtaken by a 2CV at full tilt

Huntsman

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8,054 posts

250 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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Status of the Gilbern so far....

Apart from one test drive of 1/2 mile, its broken down everytime I've driven it.

It seems to be fairly well trained now, most recently, on Friday, after about 6 or 7 miles it started to misfire, finally konking out as I pulled up outside the house, where I could then roll it straight back onto the drive!

No need to call Steve, the very pleasant RAC man!

Float bowls are full of crap, fresh fuel coming through piss coloured!

Hey ho, all good fun, knew it would take some sorting.

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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It took me some time to sort my Riley One-Point-Five after collecting it. Perhaps I should have stayed well clear as it broke down when I test drove it prior to purchase when a HT lead came loose. After that it was a split hose, hole in radiator, brake failure (twice), failure to start (several times) plus any number of rattles, squeaks and niggles. Some of the rattles and squeaks are still there years later. I tell myself they add 'character', O/H is not convinced.

Mechanically it's reliable(-ish) at last, enough for us to drive alone from Land's End to John O'Groats last year. We lost horn and indicators in torrential rain on our way to the start but once they were fixed it's now as good as gold - apart from the two sumps I've holed over rough roads however a sump guard is being fitted before our next big adventure (Scotland again).

Tyres are most likely going to be swapped for 'all season' rubber, the idea being to drive it 'all seasons'. Possibly.

Huntsman

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8,054 posts

250 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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Riley Blue said:
Tyres are most likely going to be swapped for 'all season' rubber, the idea being to drive it 'all seasons'. Possibly.
The roads here on Isle of Wight tend to be wet and muddy, although we rarely get a frost, I'd like all season tyres, but choice seems limited in 165/80/14. Might have to try a 175/80/14



Huntsman

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8,054 posts

250 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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And so the fun continues...

Disaster last night! I stripped out float bowls, cleaned out the jets, pulled the jet tubes out of the float bowls. Put that back together, rigged up a bit of plastic tube, ignition on and pumped a bit of fuel into a clean white bucket to look at it. Decided the tank does have to be drained, called it a night and came in to the house.

Went to go to bed an hour later, stong smell of petrol in the kitchen. Started closing and opening windows and doors to get rid of it from the house, went to investigate in the garage. Gilbern had syphoned the contents of the tank onto the garage floor. Gallons of petrol everywhere, was clearing up until midnight.

Since the Rayburn is alight in the kitchen and its an open flame device, I was a little concerned that I might be about to blow the end wall off the house!

Still, no harm done, by this morning it had all evaporated away and not stinking at all.

At least there is less to explode/drain.

Skyedriver

17,850 posts

282 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Huntsman said:
And so the fun continues...

Disaster last night! I stripped out float bowls, cleaned out the jets, pulled the jet tubes out of the float bowls. Put that back together, rigged up a bit of plastic tube, ignition on and pumped a bit of fuel into a clean white bucket to look at it. Decided the tank does have to be drained, called it a night and came in to the house.

Went to go to bed an hour later, stong smell of petrol in the kitchen. Started closing and opening windows and doors to get rid of it from the house, went to investigate in the garage. Gilbern had syphoned the contents of the tank onto the garage floor. Gallons of petrol everywhere, was clearing up until midnight.

Since the Rayburn is alight in the kitchen and its an open flame device, I was a little concerned that I might be about to blow the end wall off the house!

Still, no harm done, by this morning it had all evaporated away and not stinking at all.

At least there is less to explode/drain.
That car doesn't like you...........

Huntsman

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8,054 posts

250 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Skyedriver said:
That car doesn't like you...........
I prefer to think of this journey as an automotive taming of the shrew.

None of this is anything more than I would have expected from such a car rallied, rebuilt, crashed, rebuilt and dormant for 20 years.

Huntsman

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8,054 posts

250 months

Sunday 24th October 2021
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Huntsman said:
Apart from one test drive of 1/2 mile, its broken down everytime I've driven it.
The Gilbern was incredible, it managed a breakdown ratio of about 90%.... It sat around for 18 months, 'rona, house move, redundancy, start a business all got in the way.

I decided really early on that it was too small on account of me being a big fat old fart.

So the Gilbern is sold.

This arrived!



Drooles

1,367 posts

56 months

Sunday 24th October 2021
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Huntsman said:
The Gilbern was incredible, it managed a breakdown ratio of about 90%.... It sat around for 18 months, 'rona, house move, redundancy, start a business all got in the way.

I decided really early on that it was too small on account of me being a big fat old fart.

So the Gilbern is sold.

This arrived!

Great looking car. Much envy. Hope it proves a tad more reliable that the Gilbern and it gets the use it deserves.

Excellent choice

Stuart70

3,935 posts

183 months

Sunday 24th October 2021
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skwdenyer said:
sparks_190e said:


My daily drive, love it to bits.
Fantastic beast!
And where to find them? smile

Huntsman

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8,054 posts

250 months

Sunday 24th October 2021
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Ha! I thought you'd say that.

I have been in a Daimler auto and I didnt want one, I would have bought a manual, but the only one for sale was more dosh that I wanted to squander.

Steering seems ok, just need to be moving, which is how I was taught to drive.

Brakes are schocking.

There's a million things to sort out but its not rusty.

sixor8

6,292 posts

268 months

Sunday 24th October 2021
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I've been doing 26 mile rounds trips regularly for the last 3 weeks in my 1975 Triumph Toledo. Not a problem. Even warms up fairly quickly.

Never had so much positive reaction in 37 years of driving from other road users, and even pedestrians! Even though it's only a 1.3 single carb, it's struggling to average 30 mpg, but the free VED and MoT exemption is compensating for that. smile

I wouldn't want to be using it in proper winter though. No ABS, no power steering (although it's not THAT heavy), poor wipers, huge blind spots and a non-functional heated rear window will stop me using it when it gets proper cold..... frown

Drooles

1,367 posts

56 months

Sunday 24th October 2021
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sixor8 said:
I've been doing 26 mile rounds trips regularly for the last 3 weeks in my 1975 Triumph Toledo. Not a problem. Even warms up fairly quickly.

Never had so much positive reaction in 37 years of driving from other road users, and even pedestrians! Even though it's only a 1.3 single carb, it's struggling to average 30 mpg, but the free VED and MoT exemption is compensating for that. smile

I wouldn't want to be using it in proper winter though. No ABS, no power steering (although it's not THAT heavy), poor wipers, huge blind spots and a non-functional heated rear window will stop me using it when it gets proper cold..... frown
I’ve never driven a Toledo but I’ve driven a 1500TC and I’ve had a Vitesse for 20 years... agree with most of what you say but I’m really surprised that you say you have blind spots. I find modern cars are terrible for this whilst my old Triumph is fairly good

lowdrag

12,892 posts

213 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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I had a new Toledo as a company car in 1976 and it was sadly a Friday/Monday morning build. At first it wouldn't go higher than 40 mph which the dealer said "was a tight engine - needs running in" I insisted and it needed a new carby. Two new windscreens broken by gravel and other niggles did not, however, spoil the charm of the inside, and it was a pleasant place to be. Primrose yellow was a comfortable colour to live with too.

As regards the Jaguar above, is it a 240 or a 340? The price of the former cars is starting to rise when people realise that the Solex has gone and replaced with better breathing and SU's. Good ones are now around £12,000 - good value for a comfortable saloon that can hit the ton.


Edited by lowdrag on Monday 25th October 08:34

uk66fastback

16,539 posts

271 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Hope the Jag proves to be enjoyable to own! My grandad had a petrol blue 340 in the late 60s (from memory) with a red leather interior … I can see it now … picnic tables n’ all.

Huntsman

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8,054 posts

250 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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lowdrag said:
As regards the Jaguar above, is it a 240 or a 340? The price of the former cars is starting to rise when people realise that the Solex has gone and replaced with better breathing and SU's. Good ones are now around £12,000 - good value for a comfortable saloon that can hit the ton.

Edited by lowdrag on Monday 25th October 08:34
240. Quite deliberate choice. I think very hood 240's are now £15k. Mine was half that, but runs and drives.