Who owns the number plate?

Who owns the number plate?

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Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

260 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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DVLA own it.

XLYC

Original Poster:

152 posts

77 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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Okay, if I rephrase, does he have any rights to it although he isn’t the grantee or nominee?

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

260 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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My answer is no. But I'm sure someone more informed than me will confirm.

Jasey_

4,823 posts

177 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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Only if you Mum dies and leaves it to him OR he is the executor of her will.

As far as I know smile.

ThunderSpook

3,571 posts

210 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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Usually you can have two nominees on there, why was he not listed.

Effectively no he doesn’t really have any rights to it. As mentioned it’s owned by DVLA but they grant permission to those listed on the form to use it.

Scrump

21,886 posts

157 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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If he has the certificate number and some other details then he can assign it to any car using the online service. The car does not have to be registered to the nominee or grantee.

XLYC

Original Poster:

152 posts

77 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Ah, a new one was issued which he doesn’t have access to neither has he seen.

Thanks for the replies

unsprung

5,467 posts

123 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Johnny Foreigner here.

Would somebody help me to understand, in plain English, the meanings of "grantee" and "nominee"?

I attempted to answer this question, myself, by visiting the following...
https://www.simplyregistrations.co.uk/grantee-and-...

...but that page quickly devolved into what, to me, seemed a bit of a word salad. Sorry.

I'm aware that, in the UK, there is no title to show ownership of the car. And that "the keeper" of a car is listed on the V5.

Grateful for any helpful explanations.



Wooda80

1,743 posts

74 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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@unsprung

They aren't discussing title / ownership of a car here, rather the right to display a "special" registration number.

Rather than have a random allocated registration number you can have one of your one choice (as long as it is in a certain format). Maybe it spells your name or has some other special meaning to you.

When you do this you pay money to the DVLA and they grant you the right to display that number on the car. Hence you are the grantee. It's very similar to being the "owner" of the number, except that the DVLA can revoke that right if they wish without compensation, although they rarely do.

If the grantee wishes to display the number on a car that isnt registered to him then he can nominate another person to have the right to display the number on their car. That person is the nominee.

It gets messy if the nominee then decides they don't want to give the registration number back when asked. It's very difficult for the grantee to take it back without the nominee's consent.

The OP didn't make it clear, but is that what has happened here?

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

260 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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I'm guessing that the grantee here bought the plate for the nominee as a present or something and it's all got a bit emotional since and the grantee wants the plate back.

unsprung

5,467 posts

123 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Wooda80 said:
Rather than have a random allocated registration number you can have one of your one choice (as long as it is in a certain format). Maybe it spells your name or has some other special meaning to you.
Yes, this in the US is called a "vanity plate."

Wooda80 said:
When you do this you pay money to the DVLA and they grant you the right to display that number on the car. Hence you are the grantee. It's very similar to being the "owner" of the number, except that the DVLA can revoke that right if they wish without compensation, although they rarely do.
Thanks for that. Although the US practice is identical, I'm not sure that the term "grantee" is used. In everyday speech people err by saying "owner" even though said owner is merely granted a right from the state equivalent of the DVLA.

Wooda80 said:
If the grantee wishes to display the number on a car that isnt registered to him then he can nominate another person to have the right to display the number on their car. That person is the nominee.
Now this is the part of the story where I stumbled. All very clear now, thanks to your patient explanation. thumbup

I've never heard of such a reassignment in which "ownership" of the plate and usage of the plate are separated.






Jasey_

4,823 posts

177 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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unsprung said:
Wooda80 said:
Rather than have a random allocated registration number you can have one of your one choice (as long as it is in a certain format). Maybe it spells your name or has some other special meaning to you.
Yes, this in the US is called a "vanity plate."

Wooda80 said:
When you do this you pay money to the DVLA and they grant you the right to display that number on the car. Hence you are the grantee. It's very similar to being the "owner" of the number, except that the DVLA can revoke that right if they wish without compensation, although they rarely do.
Thanks for that. Although the US practice is identical, I'm not sure that the term "grantee" is used. In everyday speech people err by saying "owner" even though said owner is merely granted a right from the state equivalent of the DVLA.

Wooda80 said:
If the grantee wishes to display the number on a car that isnt registered to him then he can nominate another person to have the right to display the number on their car. That person is the nominee.
Now this is the part of the story where I stumbled. All very clear now, thanks to your patient explanation. thumbup

I've never heard of such a reassignment in which "ownership" of the plate and usage of the plate are separated.
The biggest problem with plates is deciding if they belong in the "really good" or "Crappy" plates thread smile

unsprung

5,467 posts

123 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Jasey_ said:
The biggest problem with plates is deciding if they belong in the "really good" or "Crappy" plates thread smile
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That crappy plates thread is surely one of the most popular on PH.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Are there ANY personalised plates that are not crappy? Don’t they all just say NAFF?

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

260 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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No. Some have sentimental value.

I have my mum's last reg. Nothing very interesting but it means something to me.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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An honourable and valid exception to the general rule. All other vanity plates are Alan Partridge. See also: monograms on shirts.

unsprung

5,467 posts

123 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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A personal plate to keep mum's old reg would probably garner near-universal approval from the chattering classes of PH.

On the other hand...

This brings to mind a decision that brought waves of news coverage earlier this year. The state of Queensland, in Australia, now offers emoji on your number plate hehe

info here
https://www.ppq.com.au/


anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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I want a clown car emoji on my plate please.