Who owns the number plate?
Discussion
Johnny Foreigner here.
Would somebody help me to understand, in plain English, the meanings of "grantee" and "nominee"?
I attempted to answer this question, myself, by visiting the following...
https://www.simplyregistrations.co.uk/grantee-and-...
...but that page quickly devolved into what, to me, seemed a bit of a word salad. Sorry.
I'm aware that, in the UK, there is no title to show ownership of the car. And that "the keeper" of a car is listed on the V5.
Grateful for any helpful explanations.
@unsprung
They aren't discussing title / ownership of a car here, rather the right to display a "special" registration number.
Rather than have a random allocated registration number you can have one of your one choice (as long as it is in a certain format). Maybe it spells your name or has some other special meaning to you.
When you do this you pay money to the DVLA and they grant you the right to display that number on the car. Hence you are the grantee. It's very similar to being the "owner" of the number, except that the DVLA can revoke that right if they wish without compensation, although they rarely do.
If the grantee wishes to display the number on a car that isnt registered to him then he can nominate another person to have the right to display the number on their car. That person is the nominee.
It gets messy if the nominee then decides they don't want to give the registration number back when asked. It's very difficult for the grantee to take it back without the nominee's consent.
The OP didn't make it clear, but is that what has happened here?
They aren't discussing title / ownership of a car here, rather the right to display a "special" registration number.
Rather than have a random allocated registration number you can have one of your one choice (as long as it is in a certain format). Maybe it spells your name or has some other special meaning to you.
When you do this you pay money to the DVLA and they grant you the right to display that number on the car. Hence you are the grantee. It's very similar to being the "owner" of the number, except that the DVLA can revoke that right if they wish without compensation, although they rarely do.
If the grantee wishes to display the number on a car that isnt registered to him then he can nominate another person to have the right to display the number on their car. That person is the nominee.
It gets messy if the nominee then decides they don't want to give the registration number back when asked. It's very difficult for the grantee to take it back without the nominee's consent.
The OP didn't make it clear, but is that what has happened here?
Wooda80 said:
Rather than have a random allocated registration number you can have one of your one choice (as long as it is in a certain format). Maybe it spells your name or has some other special meaning to you.
Yes, this in the US is called a "vanity plate."Wooda80 said:
When you do this you pay money to the DVLA and they grant you the right to display that number on the car. Hence you are the grantee. It's very similar to being the "owner" of the number, except that the DVLA can revoke that right if they wish without compensation, although they rarely do.
Thanks for that. Although the US practice is identical, I'm not sure that the term "grantee" is used. In everyday speech people err by saying "owner" even though said owner is merely granted a right from the state equivalent of the DVLA.Wooda80 said:
If the grantee wishes to display the number on a car that isnt registered to him then he can nominate another person to have the right to display the number on their car. That person is the nominee.
Now this is the part of the story where I stumbled. All very clear now, thanks to your patient explanation. I've never heard of such a reassignment in which "ownership" of the plate and usage of the plate are separated.
unsprung said:
Wooda80 said:
Rather than have a random allocated registration number you can have one of your one choice (as long as it is in a certain format). Maybe it spells your name or has some other special meaning to you.
Yes, this in the US is called a "vanity plate."Wooda80 said:
When you do this you pay money to the DVLA and they grant you the right to display that number on the car. Hence you are the grantee. It's very similar to being the "owner" of the number, except that the DVLA can revoke that right if they wish without compensation, although they rarely do.
Thanks for that. Although the US practice is identical, I'm not sure that the term "grantee" is used. In everyday speech people err by saying "owner" even though said owner is merely granted a right from the state equivalent of the DVLA.Wooda80 said:
If the grantee wishes to display the number on a car that isnt registered to him then he can nominate another person to have the right to display the number on their car. That person is the nominee.
Now this is the part of the story where I stumbled. All very clear now, thanks to your patient explanation. I've never heard of such a reassignment in which "ownership" of the plate and usage of the plate are separated.
A personal plate to keep mum's old reg would probably garner near-universal approval from the chattering classes of PH.
On the other hand...
This brings to mind a decision that brought waves of news coverage earlier this year. The state of Queensland, in Australia, now offers emoji on your number plate
info here
https://www.ppq.com.au/
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