Tarmac Repairs?

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paulrockliffe

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9,320 posts

174 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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I've had a scaffolder drop about 20 poles onto my drive from 5 metres up, they punched holes all over the place. Obviously furious, but as the holes are relatively small, is there something I can use to repair them?

Thanks!

paulwirral

1,784 posts

82 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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The scaffolders insurance or the money you owe him .

Turn7

16,347 posts

168 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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paulwirral said:
The scaffolders insurance or the money you owe him .
Good luck with that.....

Top 3 most agrresssive males in the UK:

Roofer
Scaffolder
Tipper Driver

paulrockliffe

Original Poster:

9,320 posts

174 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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paulwirral said:
The scaffolders insurance or the money you owe him .
Well yeah, though I doubt they're insured for being an idiot.

But I still need something to fix it with, I don't want to dig more out as it'll just make the repairs more visible, so something that'll fill in and stay put that's black. Resin? Something else?

Ta

Saleen836

6,926 posts

156 months

paulwirral

1,784 posts

82 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Turn7 said:
Good luck with that.....

Top 3 most agrresssive males in the UK:

Roofer
Scaffolder
Tipper Driver
I owned a roofing firm , argued with many a scaffolder !!
There is a tarmac product in a plastic bag for patch repairs available , the scaffolders surname wasn't Allan from the next colliery village up the bank was it ?

Cold

7,672 posts

37 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Scaffolders are wimps. They don't even come outside in a little bit of rain.

paulrockliffe

Original Poster:

9,320 posts

174 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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The cold lay tarmac I think you mean won't work well I don't think, it really needs more depth to have enough to bind to and it usually doesn't last well.

I'll use it if I have to, but really want to avoid more digging as it'll make the repairs more visible.

It wasn't Alan, some guy from Blaydon

Black_S3

1,990 posts

135 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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Don’t they just pour hot tar in tiny joins/ holes?

paulrockliffe

Original Poster:

9,320 posts

174 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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Probably, can I buy it by the pint though?

V8RX7

18,487 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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Heat the cold lay tarmac and heat the area its going into (heat gun / gas torch) then bash it down (lump hammer and wooden block)


loggo

172 posts

59 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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V8RX7 said:
Heat the cold lay tarmac and heat the area its going into (heat gun / gas torch) then bash it down (lump hammer and wooden block)
This. ^^

But I resent the implication regarding tipper drivers !

Aluminati

466 posts

5 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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loggo said:
V8RX7 said:
Heat the cold lay tarmac and heat the area its going into (heat gun / gas torch) then bash it down (lump hammer and wooden block)
This. ^^

But I resent the implication regarding tipper drivers !
X2, except the tipper driver bit. biggrin

Aluminati

466 posts

5 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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Cold said:
Scaffolders are wimps. They don't even come outside in a little bit of rain.
Makes mental note to take pic of lads putting one up for me on Margate Seafront at mo in gales and rain. Pricework knowns nothing about rain.

Edited by Aluminati on Wednesday 23 October 13:44

zedx19

2,026 posts

87 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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Scaffolder repairs the damage or you offer to report the incident to the HSE as a near miss, which is what it sounds like it is. Poles should not be in a position to fall 5m onto the ground.

V8RX7

18,487 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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zedx19 said:
Scaffolder repairs the damage or you offer to report the incident to the HSE as a near miss, which is what it sounds like it is. Poles should not be in a position to fall 5m onto the ground.
He needs retraining - usually they drop them onto a board !

wink


guindilias

2,858 posts

67 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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Cold said:
Scaffolders are wimps. They don't even come outside in a little bit of rain.
That's because they're knackered from all the speed and lager they drank the night before, and they have no speed left to get them out of bed.

paulrockliffe

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9,320 posts

174 months

Yesterday (14:33)
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Just thought I'd update this fking saga. Seeing as I can't do any fking work this weekend because of more bullst from this useless st. It has been a complete saga from start to finish, I've had little choice but to carry on with it because if we hadn't we'd still have no roof and we've been in a bit of a race against the weather.

Can't remember whether I posted any of this earlier, but this was supposed to be a three sided scaffold with the middle side spanning a conservatory. Watertight roof on top, all in on the Wednesday ready for starting work on the Friday. Fairly simple.

The st started on the Wednesday morning when he announced that he couldn't span the Conservatory because the electricity cable that he'd asked about the previous week was still in fact an electricity cable. Apparently it needed shrouding, so the end couldn't be done. Wednesday one side was 2/3rds done.

Thursday he rocked up at lunchtime, no way it was going to be ready. Nice one. Then about 2pm he said something about going out to get the roofing material. In the end I went for it because I actually wanted the scaffold up and ready, but it turned out whatever it was he'd decided to use doesn't exist within 90 miles of here. By the time I'd got back he'd buggered off.

Friday, phone off all day. Some bullst about his van breaking down. Couldn't work Saturday as waiting for a part to arrive, or Sunday as he had a garage fitting the part. All bullst. So Monday, me and my Dad have been sat around for three days doing fk all while the last of the autumn good weather ebs away. Tuesday afternoon we finally have a roof.

The most god awful roof you'll ever see, nothing like what was requested, but it was make it work or everything was off until the New Year. I should have had the lot taken down and told them to fk off, that was a big mistake.

Anyway, for your amusement:



So instead of 4 days with 2 of us, my Dad had to go home that evening and I then had the rest of the week to build a roof ready for a team of roofers to get it slated etc the following week. Felt doable, weather looked OK. What ensued was the most hideous few days of my life, I'm not going back there again.

It poured down on Friday, the canopy was complete ste. Obviously. I manged to puncture it strategically so the water drained onto the rest of the roof and ultimately into my shower, then the weather was fine until the day after the slates were all on. Phew. By that time most of it had blown off and he'd been back to fix it 'properly' twice.

Anyway, back to the scaffold, the electricity cable had been covered before the rest fo the scaffold was done, so the end should have been sorted. It still isn't. Numbnuts hadn't remembered to check the levels of both sides it needed to tie into, so it can't be done without dismantling half of whats there already. And the top lift on one side was missing so the roofers couldn't work until that had been fitted.

Having got past this, I was left wondering whether to get the last bits done on one side - guttering - and sack it all off and get another scaffolder to sort the end and side so I can put up the external insulation or just persist with this as half of it's there. Plan was to get the guttering done *now* and then get that side down and decide.

Oh wait, backup a second; that missing top lift was fitted at exactly the same height as the gutter would go and butted right up to the wall, so the guttering that was going up last weekend has already been put back a week while this idiot came to lower the lift. Was due Saturday, turned up Tuesday.

Because I spent most of the week in bed ill I've only looked at what was done now, I mean it's hard to get removing a lift wrong, so anyway, you probably think you can see where this is going. Obviously it is going in that direction, as I wouldn't be typing now if it isn't, but WTF.

The lift hasn't been removed, or lowered. The two options I generously offered as I can work off the lower lift if the boards are put back. The scaffold poles have been slid back and the last board removed. To do that all the stuff holding the boards down have been removed. I've been left with this to work off:







That's an 18" gap to the wall and an 8m drop. Regardless of that, the lift is still in the way for fixing the guttering boards on so I couldn't even do it if I was fking stupid.

And he's dropped scaffold tubes on that side too so the road has been damaged as well.

Not sure what my point is really, other than I've nothing else to do other than rant, but there you go.

How toothless are the HSE if I report all this ste?

Aluminati

466 posts

5 months

Yesterday (16:26)
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In a nutshell, the scaffold is illegal. There isn’t even any plan bracing in it ffs!

Any scaffold structure built for carrying a temp roof, is subject to design, although you don’t have a temp roof, you have ...fekall. The hanging beam eek

There is a million and one things wrong with that ( Nice rusty putlock ledger means his stock is not the greatest) and the HSE would shut it in the blink of an eye.

Edited by Aluminati on Saturday 16th November 16:29

dmsims

3,194 posts

214 months

Yesterday (18:20)
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I know nothing about scaffolding but that looks wrong