Avoiding PAT testing on a rental..
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I'm renting out a house as the owner is 89 and in a care home.
Doing it through an estate agent, who want £100 to PAT test the appliances - a microwave, a kettle, and a Dyson hoover. I want to leave them there for the tenants - it is being rented unfurnished, but thought they might be handy for the first few weeks at least until they get sorted with all their own stuff.
If I cut the plugs off them and put them in the garage, would that mean they do not need PAT tested? Then I'll stick plugs on them once the rental is agreed, and tell the tenants they can do what they like.
Would that work? After all, an appliance with no plug cant be tested and cant be used. Or do I just take them away and then pop round on the day they move in and leave them back...
Doing it through an estate agent, who want £100 to PAT test the appliances - a microwave, a kettle, and a Dyson hoover. I want to leave them there for the tenants - it is being rented unfurnished, but thought they might be handy for the first few weeks at least until they get sorted with all their own stuff.
If I cut the plugs off them and put them in the garage, would that mean they do not need PAT tested? Then I'll stick plugs on them once the rental is agreed, and tell the tenants they can do what they like.
Would that work? After all, an appliance with no plug cant be tested and cant be used. Or do I just take them away and then pop round on the day they move in and leave them back...
guindilias said:
I'm renting out a house as the owner is 89 and in a care home.
Doing it through an estate agent, who want £100 to PAT test the appliances - a microwave, a kettle, and a Dyson hoover. I want to leave them there for the tenants - it is being rented unfurnished, but thought they might be handy for the first few weeks at least until they get sorted with all their own stuff.
If I cut the plugs off them and put them in the garage, would that mean they do not need PAT tested? Then I'll stick plugs on them once the rental is agreed, and tell the tenants they can do what they like.
Would that work? After all, an appliance with no plug cant be tested and cant be used. Or do I just take them away and then pop round on the day they move in and leave them back...
Why?Doing it through an estate agent, who want £100 to PAT test the appliances - a microwave, a kettle, and a Dyson hoover. I want to leave them there for the tenants - it is being rented unfurnished, but thought they might be handy for the first few weeks at least until they get sorted with all their own stuff.
If I cut the plugs off them and put them in the garage, would that mean they do not need PAT tested? Then I'll stick plugs on them once the rental is agreed, and tell the tenants they can do what they like.
Would that work? After all, an appliance with no plug cant be tested and cant be used. Or do I just take them away and then pop round on the day they move in and leave them back...
Just get rid of them. Anyone renting an unfurnished property will have thier own items and will only put them in storage to leave them there at the end in the fear they'll be charged to replace them with new ones if they don't.
They'll also spend the whole tenancy b
hing about the landlord who didn't clear out the last tenant's old appliances.
They'll also spend the whole tenancy b
hing about the landlord who didn't clear out the last tenant's old appliances.guindilias said:
I'm renting out a house as the owner is 89 and in a care home.
Doing it through an estate agent, who want £100 to PAT test the appliances - a microwave, a kettle, and a Dyson hoover. I want to leave them there for the tenants - it is being rented unfurnished, but thought they might be handy for the first few weeks at least until they get sorted with all their own stuff.
If I cut the plugs off them and put them in the garage, would that mean they do not need PAT tested? Then I'll stick plugs on them once the rental is agreed, and tell the tenants they can do what they like.
Would that work? After all, an appliance with no plug cant be tested and cant be used. Or do I just take them away and then pop round on the day they move in and leave them back...
thats one of the most stupid things Ive ever heard. Do you really think its a good idea to skirt electrical safety regs and do what you are saying you will do? Doing it through an estate agent, who want £100 to PAT test the appliances - a microwave, a kettle, and a Dyson hoover. I want to leave them there for the tenants - it is being rented unfurnished, but thought they might be handy for the first few weeks at least until they get sorted with all their own stuff.
If I cut the plugs off them and put them in the garage, would that mean they do not need PAT tested? Then I'll stick plugs on them once the rental is agreed, and tell the tenants they can do what they like.
Would that work? After all, an appliance with no plug cant be tested and cant be used. Or do I just take them away and then pop round on the day they move in and leave them back...
Your question should be how much should a PAT test cost and as others have said its generally about £30-50 for a dozern or so items.
What you should also be doing is a EICR test to make sure the property is actually safe to use for electrical. As another poster has said there are safety regs where although not required to be done like a gas safety if someone did get injured then you have to prove the house was safe. EICR last for 5 years and generally cost about £100 to £160 depending on number of circuits.
You dont sound like a total idiot but ffs your first post is not very smart.
superlightr said:
You dont sound like a total idiot but ffs your first post is not very smart.
I think it’s just well intentioned inexperience. I made a similar mistake the first time I rented a house out and left a wall mount TV because I thought it was more hassle to remove. Guess what... the TV broke and I had to replace it like for like. Black_S3 said:
superlightr said:
You dont sound like a total idiot but ffs your first post is not very smart.
I think it’s just well intentioned inexperience. I made a similar mistake the first time I rented a house out and left a wall mount TV because I thought it was more hassle to remove. Guess what... the TV broke and I had to replace it like for like. guindilias said:
They also want to make sure the smoke alarms work - £80.
Can of smoke alarm test spray - £10.
Would you get in your car, drive to the house, test all of the alarms & produce a signed certificate for £70?Can of smoke alarm test spray - £10.
Don't bother leaving the electrical items - you'll have to replace them when they break down.
It's complete inexperience - I have never had a property up for rent, I am not related to the owner, and any rent goes towards her care home fees of £700 a week.
So I am renting it using a local estate agent, and these are their terms - I know some things are not legally required, but it is their requirement before they will put it up for rent. It doesn't have to be done by their people, but I have to either have them do it or organise it myself.
There is a spark who lives across the road, who knows her well as before she had to move into the home (dementia) she would do thinks like forget where the two consumer units were - and being very fond of chandeliers and the like, bulbs were always blowing and knocking off all the lights - so she would ring him and he'd walk over and flick it back on for her.
They also want an EICR, and charge £125 for that - is that over the top as well? I phoned the spark across the road and he said it was "expensive" - but he does all the small stuff for free, so I don't know whether he means £100 expensive, or £50 expensive.
So I am renting it using a local estate agent, and these are their terms - I know some things are not legally required, but it is their requirement before they will put it up for rent. It doesn't have to be done by their people, but I have to either have them do it or organise it myself.
There is a spark who lives across the road, who knows her well as before she had to move into the home (dementia) she would do thinks like forget where the two consumer units were - and being very fond of chandeliers and the like, bulbs were always blowing and knocking off all the lights - so she would ring him and he'd walk over and flick it back on for her.
They also want an EICR, and charge £125 for that - is that over the top as well? I phoned the spark across the road and he said it was "expensive" - but he does all the small stuff for free, so I don't know whether he means £100 expensive, or £50 expensive.
2Btoo said:
Erm, PAT testing is not mandatory for things in rental properties. They only need to be inspected by 'a competent person' for obvious faults (loose plugs, worn cables etc).
Have I missed something?
PAT testing is not mandatory. End of.Have I missed something?
Having it done is no guarantee to prevent a fire. And the council won't fine you if not done.
It is used by competent people and organisations to demonstrate that it has been checked and any repairs carried out. The frequency depends with usage.
People choose not to do it, I don't know what they will tell insurance/police/magistrate if it all goes tits up.
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