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The Don of Croy said:
I think this is a T35?
Owned (and restored) by my boss' old neighbour, enjoying the fruits of a lifetime selling nuts and bolts (in large quantities). There's an 'Atlantique' in the far background, too, because you can never have too many old cars.
The bonnet and radiator look a bit narrow for a 35, I'm going for the smaller-engined Type 37.Owned (and restored) by my boss' old neighbour, enjoying the fruits of a lifetime selling nuts and bolts (in large quantities). There's an 'Atlantique' in the far background, too, because you can never have too many old cars.
DickyC said:
The Don of Croy said:
The bonnet and radiator look a bit narrow for a 35, I'm going for the smaller-engined Type 37.I also wondered about the headlights and the smaller gearshift quadrant housing.
The headlights aren't a complete giveaway of course, some versions of T35s were road-equipped and detuned.
I just don't know enough about them, but I think you might be right.
Edit: I've just noticed that the car in the Don's picture has a single outboard lever, not the pair that the 35s should have.
But what a joyous thing to have in the garage.
Edited by Error_404_Username_not_found on Wednesday 12th March 19:42
Error_404_Username_not_found said:
DickyC said:
The Don of Croy said:
The bonnet and radiator look a bit narrow for a 35, I'm going for the smaller-engined Type 37.I also wondered about the headlights and the smaller gearshift quadrant housing.
The headlights aren't a complete giveaway of course, some versions of T35s were road-equipped and detuned.
I just don't know enough about them, but I think you might be right.
Edit: I've just noticed that the car in the Don's picture has a single outboard lever, not the pair that the 35s should have.
But what a joyous thing to have in the garage.
Off Topic - Jack Fairman's family ran a laundry amongst other businesses. After the war, Jack bought a Type 35 for hill climbs and sprints. As petrol was rationed, he tuned the Bugatti to run on ethanol and took it to meetings in one of the laundry vans which, being commercial, was allowed fuel.
Jack was often Stirling Moss's co-driver as they were similar size. He drove Moss mad. He wasn't as quick and he had mechanical sympathy. He would nurse an ailing car where Moss would keep going flat out until the car expired.
He and I talked about an autobiography but his mind went before we really got going. He thought he knew me from somewhere but couldn't quite place me.
DickyC said:
A member of the AMOC used to arrive at events in a Type 37. Such a lovely car - my second favourite after the Type 35.
Off Topic - Jack Fairman's family ran a laundry amongst other businesses. After the war, Jack bought a Type 35 for hill climbs and sprints. As petrol was rationed, he tuned the Bugatti to run on ethanol and took it to meetings in one of the laundry vans which, being commercial, was allowed fuel.
Jack was often Stirling Moss's co-driver as they were similar size. He drove Moss mad. He wasn't as quick and he had mechanical sympathy. He would nurse an ailing car where Moss would keep going flat out until the car expired.
He and I talked about an autobiography but his mind went before we really got going. He thought he knew me from somewhere but couldn't quite place me.
Sad story. Dementia is such a cruel fate. Off Topic - Jack Fairman's family ran a laundry amongst other businesses. After the war, Jack bought a Type 35 for hill climbs and sprints. As petrol was rationed, he tuned the Bugatti to run on ethanol and took it to meetings in one of the laundry vans which, being commercial, was allowed fuel.
Jack was often Stirling Moss's co-driver as they were similar size. He drove Moss mad. He wasn't as quick and he had mechanical sympathy. He would nurse an ailing car where Moss would keep going flat out until the car expired.
He and I talked about an autobiography but his mind went before we really got going. He thought he knew me from somewhere but couldn't quite place me.
Continuing O/T, my Dad was an early boyfriend of Pat Moss although the relationship didn't last long. My grandmother told me she wished they had married, but they remained friends for many years. Between that and Dad's racing activities I had reason to know Stirling Moss a little bit when I was very young.
I'd like to say something nice, but I can't think of anything.
Error_404_Username_not_found said:
DickyC said:
A member of the AMOC used to arrive at events in a Type 37. Such a lovely car - my second favourite after the Type 35.
Off Topic - Jack Fairman's family ran a laundry amongst other businesses. After the war, Jack bought a Type 35 for hill climbs and sprints. As petrol was rationed, he tuned the Bugatti to run on ethanol and took it to meetings in one of the laundry vans which, being commercial, was allowed fuel.
Jack was often Stirling Moss's co-driver as they were similar size. He drove Moss mad. He wasn't as quick and he had mechanical sympathy. He would nurse an ailing car where Moss would keep going flat out until the car expired.
He and I talked about an autobiography but his mind went before we really got going. He thought he knew me from somewhere but couldn't quite place me.
Sad story. Dementia is such a cruel fate. Off Topic - Jack Fairman's family ran a laundry amongst other businesses. After the war, Jack bought a Type 35 for hill climbs and sprints. As petrol was rationed, he tuned the Bugatti to run on ethanol and took it to meetings in one of the laundry vans which, being commercial, was allowed fuel.
Jack was often Stirling Moss's co-driver as they were similar size. He drove Moss mad. He wasn't as quick and he had mechanical sympathy. He would nurse an ailing car where Moss would keep going flat out until the car expired.
He and I talked about an autobiography but his mind went before we really got going. He thought he knew me from somewhere but couldn't quite place me.
Continuing O/T, my Dad was an early boyfriend of Pat Moss although the relationship didn't last long. My grandmother told me she wished they had married, but they remained friends for many years. Between that and Dad's racing activities I had reason to know Stirling Moss a little bit when I was very young.
I'd like to say something nice, but I can't think of anything.
Portofino said:
DickyC said:
Portofino said:
I was in the Jack Fairman tonight.
You be in Horley in Fairman's Garage as was.bristolracer said:
@ GTRene
How does the Dutch number plate system work? I can’t imagine there’s many left given the 6 digit system, or do they get recycled?
it is basically a fixed system, we do not have private plates, it is a system with numbers and figures, they do not do certain combinations, which for example resemble something that can hurt or something...How does the Dutch number plate system work? I can’t imagine there’s many left given the 6 digit system, or do they get recycled?
sometimes if the old license plates have been handed in for example export, and say after 20 years or something comes back to NL you can get the old number plates back that is nice in itself.
if an old car is out of circulation, flattened like scrap metal, for example someone who imports a car that was never registered in NL, could get that old license plate, and thus get for example blue plates with old number codes which is more appropriate for a classic car.
the 6 numbers/figures can be stretched a lot, for example 2 numbers first for aan, later for example 2 numbers, then for example 3 and or 1 at the beginning for the - dash and so they can stretch it a lot.
You can trace a car in the Netherlands quite well, how old it is, etc. You can also enter all the current license plates on the RDW site to see what the data is, in terms of weight and power, etc., etc.,
See this link where you can enter a license plate in the yellow box, nice system.
https://ovi.rdw.nl/
I thought it was also in English (RDW) somewhere, not sure though.
moffspeed said:
.and one from the family album.
Circa 1970 en route to Agde in S. France. The trusty Minx, four up, boot crammed and roof rack stacked, not forgetting an Enterprise dinghy in tow. The decision to lighten things by not carrying a spare wheel for the boat trailer was to prove unwise...
Never in the field of internal combustion has 60 BHP worked so hard.
..but it was worth the effort :
Great pictures, thanks for sharing. Circa 1970 en route to Agde in S. France. The trusty Minx, four up, boot crammed and roof rack stacked, not forgetting an Enterprise dinghy in tow. The decision to lighten things by not carrying a spare wheel for the boat trailer was to prove unwise...
Never in the field of internal combustion has 60 BHP worked so hard.
..but it was worth the effort :
Edited by moffspeed on Wednesday 12th March 14:20
DickyC said:
So many coincidences to get me there. My dad's faraway look when he spoke of one day owning an Aston (he never did) inspired my ambition to own one. A very tired DB4 very quickly became a garage, shed and attic full of bits which I sold ten years later for five times what I paid. During that ten years, I joined the AMOC and got involved in the club. My dad said he worked after the war at a company in Redhill where a panelbeater owned an Aston International and he wondered if he was still alive. I checked. He was still alive and was Member No.2. (I was Member 10714) We went to meet him. They spoke about this and that and he mentioned he was in touch with Jack Fairman who he had done some work for years ago. We all met. Jack spoke about his autobiography for which he had composed the first line. "I was born in a kennel." Through meeting Jack, I met Eric Thompson and through Eric I met most of the post war AM team. My dad's best friend, my godfather, researched much of Horley's history, wrote books on the subject and knew of Jack and the Fairmans. He was pleased the garage was going to be turned into a pub to be called The Jack Fairman. Then he heard the owners were going to call the pub The Connaught, after one of the teams Jack drove for. He lobbied for the name to be The Jack Fairman as Connaught had nothing to do with Horley. And he got his way. We met there shortly after it opened for a meal and a drink.
Nice piece of history and info Dicky, thanks!Portofino said:
Nice piece of history and info Dicky, thanks!
If a bit self-indulgent 
My godfather was Brian Buss. He died in February. He wrote or co-wrote numerous books about Horley that are worth seeking out if you're interested in the area. He must have been best part of 100 when he went! Nice guy. I should have seen more of him. He and my dad hitch-hiked to Le Mans in 1953.
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