Dink's day in the aeroplanemuseum

Dink's day in the aeroplanemuseum

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Eric Mc

121,988 posts

265 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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I'm a bit hazy on my Yaks smile

It certainly looks a bit of a hodge podge - whatever it is.

VetteG

3,236 posts

244 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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I stand corrected on the Albatross, in fact I dont know what I was thinking about calling it a Fokker, too much Malt Whisky me thinks! Speaking of which samples will be available at SpaF Dink!drink

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anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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Nice pictures dinkel. That looks a great day out.

Eric Mc

121,988 posts

265 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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Did anyone notice the Grumman Tracker in full KLM livery?

It looks very odd. The Trackers used to operate off the Dutch Navy's only carrier, the Karel Doorman.

I always prefer aircraft to carrier colour schemes appropriate to the type and their service life. It needs to be repainted in "Konmarine" colours.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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Eric Mc said:
Did anyone notice the Grumman Tracker in full KLM livery?

It looks very odd. The Trackers used to operate off the Dutch Navy's only carrier, the Karel Doorman.

I always prefer aircraft to carrier colour schemes appropriate to the type and their service life. It needs to be repainted in "Konmarine" colours.
Apparently it was used by KLM for training purposes.

Klassiekerrally

2,543 posts

255 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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About the 'Spitfire': why didn't I think of that!

The Antonov is a very impressive plane. And I very much like the looks of it.
It's a true gas-guzzler too: I'm told it uses 200 litres of expensive fuel per hour yikes

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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Klassiekerrally said:
About the 'Spitfire': why didn't I think of that!

The Antonov is a very impressive plane. And I very much like the looks of it.
It's a true gas-guzzler too: I'm told it uses 200 litres of expensive fuel per hour yikes
I flew an An-2 in Cuba once. It was about 45USG/Hr in the cruise so thats about 170L/Hr the climb was much worse.

Eric Mc

121,988 posts

265 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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I've never flown on an An-2 but I did get to look around one at RAF Odiham about 14 years ago. I was surprised to see that the rudder cables run along the ceiling of the passenger cabin. In theory, a passenger could reach up and yank on the cable and cause the plane's nose to swing about.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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Eric Mc said:
I've never flown on an An-2 but I did get to look around one at RAF Odiham about 14 years ago. I was surprised to see that the rudder cables run along the ceiling of the passenger cabin. In theory, a passenger could reach up and yank on the cable and cause the plane's nose to swing about.
I'm sure the one I flew had a passenger cabin with some kind of cabin roof. I was allowed to pole it around for a bit which can't be legal, even in Cuba.

It was all very basic and agricultural , aparently 'unstallable' too.

Eric Mc

121,988 posts

265 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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It always looks to me like a pregnant Fairey Swordfish - and about as fast.

eharding

13,687 posts

284 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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There used to be a couple of AN2's parked at White Waltham - fantastic landmarks, you could see them from miles away. One was cut up and shipped out to Spain, the other one ended up at Popham, I think. Pretty sure this is the one you can arrange to fly in the UK...

http://www.an2club.info

There is also one at Tatenhill that a couple of likley lads have decked out inside with a full-on executive jet/gin palace/shag-pad interior. Still only does about 95kt at three gazillion litres an hour though.

A completely hatstand bit of kit - the finishing touch being the flap controls designed by a complete sadist. I once watched a mate (CPL with a few thousand hours) doing a few circuits for currency in the flyable one at WW - on the climb out from 29, the thing just appeared to stop in mid-air, and then start slowly rising almost vertically - the bastard flap controls at work - instead of selecting the flaps *up*, he'd selected flaps fully *down*. Nasty. As I recall, the mixture control also worked in the reverse sense to practically every other one in the world as well.

dinkel

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26,939 posts

258 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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Eric Mc said:
It always looks to me like a pregnant Fairey Swordfish - and about as fast.


Great for torpedoing U-boats right?

Eric Mc

121,988 posts

265 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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Ironically, torpedoes were not the best weapon against U-Boats. The weapon of choice was the depth charge. Most U-Boats sunk in WW2 were caught on the surface and were sunk by a combination of bombs, machine gun fire and depth charges.

The Swordish's air dropped torpedo was best used against surface vessels.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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Eric Mc said:
Ironically, torpedoes were not the best weapon against U-Boats. The weapon of choice was the depth charge. Most U-Boats sunk in WW2 were caught on the surface and were sunk by a combination of bombs, machine gun fire and depth charges.

The Swordish's air dropped torpedo was best used against surface vessels.
As the Italian Navy found out in Taranto.

snotrag

14,457 posts

211 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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Great pictures Dinkel I know little about all the various planes, but I find them fascinating.

Eric Mc

121,988 posts

265 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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As the Italian Navy did indeed find out at Taranto - not to mention the Imperial Japanese Navy who decided to go ahead with their attack on Pearl Harbor after seeing how effective some lumbering old biplanes could be if the element of surprise was total. You could say that the Swordfish was instrumental in bringing America into the war.

VetteG

3,236 posts

244 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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dinkel said:
Great for torpedoing U-boats right?
For U-boats the Sunderland or the Catalina were the DB's.

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Eric Mc

121,988 posts

265 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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And Liberators and Wellingtons and Beauforts and Halifaxes.

They all served with distinction in RAF Coastal Command

I think even the odd Anson and Hudson got in on the act.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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VetteG said:
airplane
He said airplane....

Eric Mc

121,988 posts

265 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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None of that American nonsense here on PH please.