hamster euthanasia - an ethical question

hamster euthanasia - an ethical question

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Brown and Boris

11,800 posts

235 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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My kids had 2 mice from a pet shop for about £2. 2 years later one developed large lump and after spending shed loads of money on it the vet put it to sleep. The other onethen developed the same lump. The vet gave it iodine and it went down. It grew again a few months later and I gave it the rest of the iodine and it seemed to be working. Then over a weekend it starting having fits and twitching. I was faced with calling out the emergency vet or dealing with it myself.

I knew it had to be quick or the mouse would suffer so I laid it in a large match box wrapped in tissue paper to keep it still, laid it on the lawn and brought a shovel down at a great pace from a great height. Sadly the draft and impact ejected the tray from the match box where said mouse was lying and sent it horizonally across the lawn in a cloud of tissue paper. Not knowing if the mouse was now just injured and in pain I very rapidly ran after it across the lawn and made sure with numerous blows with the shovel.

On completion of the deed, I stod back slighly guilty and I looked up to see the nieghbours kids watching me from a bedroom window, terrified.

Edited by Brown and Boris on Friday 12th September 15:08

fluffnik

20,156 posts

227 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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GilbertGrape said:
What about taking it to a Vet?

That's what I would do..
Much more stressful for the hamster than just whacking it hard at home.

HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

284 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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rofl

MK4 Slowride

10,028 posts

208 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Brown and Boris said:
failed killer beast
rofl

Roop

6,012 posts

284 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Hrm. How about you buy him a miniature scale jet dragster powered by a pop-bottle water rocket and run him up the garden path...?

He'll soon blow a tyre, spear onto the lawn and barrel roll to his death. Meanwhile you can sell loads of books and present emergency rescue programs on the tele and move into a £2.5M mansion with the proceeds...

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Roop said:
Hrm. How about you buy him a miniature scale jet dragster powered by a pop-bottle water rocket and run him up the garden path...?

He'll soon blow a tyre, spear onto the lawn and barrel roll to his death. Meanwhile you can sell loads of books and present emergency rescue programs on the tele and move into a £2.5M mansion with the proceeds...
The Hamster would need to sign a £2mil deal with the BBC just Before the drag car experiment 1st though.

Don

28,377 posts

284 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Goodness me. Break it's neck humanely and quickly. Poor thing.

Rounders bat or similar is messy but immediate, effective and (despite messy) should be so fast the poor animal doesn't even feel it. Back of the head. Whack.

If your Mrs needs to bury a pretty corpse you'll have to pay the vet to do it. Although, since it IS a hibernating creature, the freezer might not be quite as astonishingly inhumane as it first appears.

HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

284 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Don said:
Although, since it IS a hibernating creature, the freezer might not be quite as astonishingly inhumane as it first appears.
Yes, although best put all the calendars face down first, otherwise he'll know something's not right.

Russian Rocket

872 posts

236 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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hammy in tupaware box

helium baloon

use a straw to empty helium into tupaware box

completely painless, wont even know what has happened, no trauma, it will just stop working

The Moose

22,845 posts

209 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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call the RSPCA, and they will tell you if it will die in the freezer or just get fking cold!!

The Moose

P.S. We Moose, like freezers

HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

284 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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The Moose said:
call the RSPCA, and they will tell you if it will die in the freezer or just get fking cold!!
You could always just leave him in the freezer in the hope that a future advanced civilisation can bring him back to life and fix him up.

"Honey, do we have any ice?

Yes, dear, top drawer next to Richard!"

ASBO

26,140 posts

214 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Take a piss in its water bottle.

Either that or give it Vodka. Then it will die happy and pissed.

Darkslider

3,073 posts

189 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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captainzep said:
Worst "please help me justify anal hamster shenanigans" thread ever.

But yes, it feels awesome.
You've got to wrap duct tape around the little feller before you begin.

I'd put him into a little box and tie it to a huge bunch of helium balloons and watch him float off into heaven. I can think of no better way to go myself.

shirt

Original Poster:

22,546 posts

201 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Brown and Boris said:
My kids had 2 mice from a pet shop for about £2. 2 years later one developed large lump and after spending shed loads of money on it the vet put it to sleep. The other onethen developed the same lump. The vet gave it iodine and it went down. It grew again a few months later and I gave it the rest of the iodine and it seemed to be working. Then over a weekend it starting having fits and twitching. I was faced with calling out the emergency vet or dealing with it myself.

I knew it had to be quick or the mouse would suffer so I laid it in a large match box wrapped in tissue paper to keep it still, laid it on the lawn and brought a shovel down at a great pace from a great height. Sadly the draft and impact ejected the tray from the match box where said mouse was lying and sent it horizonally across the lawn in a cloud of tissue paper. Not knowing if the mouse was now just injured and in pain I very rapidly ran after it across the lawn and made sure with numerous blows with the shovel.

On completion of the deed, I stod back slighly guilty and I looked up to see the nieghbours kids watching me from a bedroom window, terrified.

Edited by Brown and Boris on Friday 12th September 15:08
rofl

2 yrs for a mouse is pretty good going mind!

otolith

56,038 posts

204 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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The Moose said:
call the RSPCA, and they will tell you if it will die in the freezer or just get fking cold!!
Hello? RSPCA? Yes, I'm thinking of killing my pet hamster by putting it in the freezer, wondered if you had any thoughts? What, you want my name and address, you say? cop

hairykrishna

13,166 posts

203 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Davi

17,153 posts

220 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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hairykrishna said:
messy if you don't get a clean release and it's head gets caught in the frame.

zcacogp

11,239 posts

244 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Davi said:
messy if you don't get a clean release and it's head gets caught in the frame.
rofl

Yes, but much cleaner than the shotgun-and-shoebox idea.

And is it me, or does the 'cup' in the centre of the elastic of that catapult look like some hideously-dated contraceptive device?)


Oli.

Jonny_

4,125 posts

207 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Electrocution?

Car ignition coil powered from 12v car battery should generate about 20kV - more than enough to see off a small rodent, I'd expect.


Bonnie and Clyde

11,701 posts

192 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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shirt said:
serious question!


i have a couple of chinese hamsters, who must be about 2 years old now.

the other morning i noticed that one of them was sat motionless in the middle of the cage. this is unusual as they are always asleep during the day. i took him out the cage and picked him up as though he was inanimate - again strange as chinese hamsters aren't too keen on being caught, this one especially so.

since then its pretty obvious he's about to kark it, as he can't walk and just sits there shaking about. when i move him he tries to fight me like i'm a predator and gets quite disturbed.


now i've kept various rodents for years so am used to this, but my usual experience is that they slip away pretty quickly when they reach this stage.

its been 2.5days now though and it is getting upsetting for the OH as its not nice watching anything die. i am very suprised he is still clinging on tbh.

i have had him go torpid before [hibernating due to the cold] but i know its not this.

so, my question is whether you think he's in pain or simply slipping away, and if the former whether i should help ease that pain.

have only ever euthanised a deformed koi carp so i wouldn't know how to go about it. what should i do?


ps - am expecting pisstake/humorous answers but nothing too harsh in case the OH reads this as this one is 'her' hamster and is upset enough already.

ta.
I'd take it to the vet ASAP. If its in pain the vet can put him/her to sleep painlessly. Also you dont know if it has something the other one could catch. So my answer is vet. Good luck

Edited by Bonnie and Clyde on Saturday 13th September 13:25