French speeding tickets being sent UK licence holders
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I got one three weeks ago and the ticket arrived day after I got home. I was one mile from the end of an 800mile day, 104 in a 70 reduced to 95 for the ticket.
All the cameras I passed prior that day were on Waze and I was tired and missed it as it was off the motorway. Paid it today.
Also saw a lot of vandalised cameras. Been flashed dozens of times in years gone by so can’t complain.
All the cameras I passed prior that day were on Waze and I was tired and missed it as it was off the motorway. Paid it today.
Also saw a lot of vandalised cameras. Been flashed dozens of times in years gone by so can’t complain.
I lived in France for a few years with a UK registered car. They didnt send any tickets before but recently they have sent me 4 and a 5th one has arrived today. But they are from like September 2018. I dont know what to do. I have paid the 4 from before but i am starting to think that are they even enforceable after so long?
I think that enforcement in the UK is under civil law, rather than criminal law - you owe them, €45 and it is hardly worth their while trying to settle the debt through English Civil court action
Only when you return to France does it once again become easily enforceable. I think it is easier for you just to pay up and drive more carefully in the future.
Only when you return to France does it once again become easily enforceable. I think it is easier for you just to pay up and drive more carefully in the future.
We had one waiting for us when we got back from our annual trip to France this year which we paid...now just waiting to see if anymore turn up.
I'm wondering if I should now just budget for speeding fines during our holiday as it seems the French are getting really keen on speeding fines.
I'm wondering if I should now just budget for speeding fines during our holiday as it seems the French are getting really keen on speeding fines.
I did approx 800 miles in France earlier this month and received a ticket by post which I "won" within the first half an hour / 20 miles of getting off the ferry. What riled me was that it was for 71km/h in a 70 (OK, it said I was doing 76 but this was reduced to 71 for the ticket). So that's another 45 Euros to the Gendarmerie's croissant fund.
For anyone interested, it was this fella who got me: https://www.google.com/maps/@49.7506315,1.4268961,...
For anyone interested, it was this fella who got me: https://www.google.com/maps/@49.7506315,1.4268961,...
rdjohn said:
Le Vette said:
That might be a fishy April Fools joke. This site is pretty good at showing the current state of play http://english.controleradar.org/french-speed-came...ilets Jaunes I have no idea, but I hope they will find a way!
This is what the Mesta Fusion 2 can actually do
https://www.radars-auto.com/info-radars/modele-rad...
Basically a rear facing red-light / speed camera
The seat belt / camera stuff would need a human to analyse a forward facing photo taken at the time an offence was committed. Automatic Cameras with pixel analysis technology is not yet that good.
https://www.radars-auto.com/info-radars/modele-rad...
Basically a rear facing red-light / speed camera
The seat belt / camera stuff would need a human to analyse a forward facing photo taken at the time an offence was committed. Automatic Cameras with pixel analysis technology is not yet that good.
Perhaps an exaggeration, but the French are determined to follow up the fines. Perhaps Brexit will save you? I agree it is unfair really. We in France can do as we please in the UK and not suffer the penalty. The QE Bridge is free for us every day, we can set cameras off when we want, average speed zones mean I can use the outside lane and put the foot down and I can go into any city I like with no reference to emission problems. Blame the UK government for agreeing to a one-sided agreement.
bad company said:
If the ticket takes months to arrive how are you supposed to remember who was driving?
If the registered keeper is liable what if they never traveled to France with the vehicle? I don’t see how anyone can be liable under French law if they weren’t there.
The French are not interested in who was driving, the person to whom the vehicle is registered is always liable, simples!!If the registered keeper is liable what if they never traveled to France with the vehicle? I don’t see how anyone can be liable under French law if they weren’t there.
Mike-tf3n0 said:
bad company said:
If the ticket takes months to arrive how are you supposed to remember who was driving?
If the registered keeper is liable what if they never traveled to France with the vehicle? I don’t see how anyone can be liable under French law if they weren’t there.
The French are not interested in who was driving, the person to whom the vehicle is registered is always liable, simples!!If the registered keeper is liable what if they never traveled to France with the vehicle? I don’t see how anyone can be liable under French law if they weren’t there.
Simple way to prove it. Nip over the channel with a mate, let him drive at 150 kph in a 90 limit, wave at the radar, come back and wait. YOU will get the fine, not him because the system doesn't know that it wasn't you. So, now all you have to do is give the fine to your friend - and then find out if he really is a friend or not.
Over here in France, we have points sharing, which is a very good idea. It isn't legal, but we share the points amongst husband and wife/kids to keep the number down. You see, the law does not allow the BiB to see who was at the wheel so the fine comes to the registered owner, and if he/she has a load of points the partner takes it on the chin for them. I recently found that apparently it goes further than that. An acquaintance has, over the last few years, lost his mum and dad, but kept their driving licences. It seems they are driving too fast still!
Over here in France, we have points sharing, which is a very good idea. It isn't legal, but we share the points amongst husband and wife/kids to keep the number down. You see, the law does not allow the BiB to see who was at the wheel so the fine comes to the registered owner, and if he/she has a load of points the partner takes it on the chin for them. I recently found that apparently it goes further than that. An acquaintance has, over the last few years, lost his mum and dad, but kept their driving licences. It seems they are driving too fast still!
lowdrag said:
Simple way to prove it. Nip over the channel with a mate, let him drive at 150 kph in a 90 limit, wave at the radar, come back and wait. YOU will get the fine, not him because the system doesn't know that it wasn't you. So, now all you have to do is give the fine to your friend - and then find out if he really is a friend or not.!
In your example I’d be in France and therefore subject to French laws. In the example I gave earlier in the thread say Mrs BC takes my car to France but I stay here in the UK. If a speeding ticket arrives I’d say they cannot impose their laws on me when I wasn’t in the country.bad company said:
lowdrag said:
Simple way to prove it. Nip over the channel with a mate, let him drive at 150 kph in a 90 limit, wave at the radar, come back and wait. YOU will get the fine, not him because the system doesn't know that it wasn't you. So, now all you have to do is give the fine to your friend - and then find out if he really is a friend or not.!
In your example I’d be in France and therefore subject to French laws. In the example I gave earlier in the thread say Mrs BC takes my car to France but I stay here in the UK. If a speeding ticket arrives I’d say they cannot impose their laws on me when I wasn’t in the country.You can complain as much as you like but this is the law, so don't let someone drive your car abroad if you feel that it is unfair.
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