French speeding tickets being sent UK licence holders

French speeding tickets being sent UK licence holders

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lowdrag

12,879 posts

213 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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My man maths says that probably the fines are registered under the owner's name and address, and not the registration number, but for your sake I hope I am wrong!

leyorkie

1,639 posts

176 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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The first flag would be the reg number which is on show.
Name and address would only flag up when provided due to some other infraction or roadside check.

Lowdrag
Did you see the new civilian camera cars in last weeks Maine Libre?
Camera behind number plate

lowdrag

12,879 posts

213 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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Yes, six of the bloody things I believe. All private so paid on commission only I guess, so their incentive is certainly there.

andygo

6,796 posts

255 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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leyorkie said:
The first flag would be the reg number which is on show.
Name and address would only flag up when provided due to some other infraction or roadside check.

Lowdrag
Did you see the new civilian camera cars in last weeks Maine Libre?
Camera behind number plate
Damn. I'll have to move house then!

But surely thats the address they sent the notification to, doesn't mean I was the driver at the time.

I( can always put the new car in my wife's name, that should sort it. Unless they stop me and I'm driving...

Edited by andygo on Friday 9th October 17:39

lowdrag

12,879 posts

213 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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andygo said:
Damn. I'll have to move house then!

But surely that's the address they sent the notification to, doesn't mean I was the driver at the time.
This has already been discussed. The fine is sent to the registered owner. If you had lent our car to someone else I am sure it will prove your friendship is sound when you receive the fine and give it to him to pay. Or not.

andygo

6,796 posts

255 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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Haha, best just cough for it after all.

I have had a good run over there, used to accelerate when i saw a scamera.


clive_candy

555 posts

165 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Just received the sixth in the post this morning.

Seems wrong somehow to be receiving another more than six weeks after the last for an offence that took place at more or less the same time. Poor justice in my view.

I don't suppose many of us will be venturing over there any time soon but make sure you keep your wits about you when you do.

lowdrag

12,879 posts

213 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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A lot of fines are being delayed because of Covid. Less people are working on them because of social distancing so everything is cocked up, but sure as eggs is eggs you'll probably get more if you are due!

andygo

6,796 posts

255 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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My son has had 2 requests to pay a French speeding fine from last March. Both letters were just in French language.

His second request arrived yesterdaay. He has since sold the car he was driving and moves house next week.

I think he is safe to ignore, wonder what the position is post Brexit with the DVLA giving out data to the EU? Hopefully, we will no longer aid the French scamerati, costing the UK taxpayer in the process.

Magooagain

9,959 posts

170 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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andygo said:
My son has had 2 requests to pay a French speeding fine from last March. Both letters were just in French language.

His second request arrived yesterdaay. He has since sold the car he was driving and moves house next week.

I think he is safe to ignore, wonder what the position is post Brexit with the DVLA giving out data to the EU? Hopefully, we will no longer aid the French scamerati, costing the UK taxpayer in the process.
Let's hope people just get pulled when the offence happens and just get a fine.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Magooagain said:
andygo said:
My son has had 2 requests to pay a French speeding fine from last March. Both letters were just in French language.

His second request arrived yesterdaay. He has since sold the car he was driving and moves house next week.

I think he is safe to ignore, wonder what the position is post Brexit with the DVLA giving out data to the EU? Hopefully, we will no longer aid the French scamerati, costing the UK taxpayer in the process.
Let's hope people just get pulled when the offence happens and just get a fine.
nope there is an agreement in the brexit deal to share details, and andygo i hope your son gets pulled at the border by les flicks and the fine is not small.

RizzoTheRat

25,135 posts

192 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Magooagain said:
Let's hope people just get pulled when the offence happens and just get a fine.
That's what happened to me, they held on to my passport while I went to the cash machine.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Bonjour, mecs, et bonnee année.

Sharing of vehicle registration details continues under the trade deal and the EU (Future Relationship) Act 2020, which Her Maj signed last night.

lowdrag

12,879 posts

213 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Magooagain said:
Let's hope people just get pulled when the offence happens and just get a fine.
If it is a mobile camera, yes, you'll be fined on the spot. These letters that drop through your letterbox are from fixed cameras with no BiB present. so, if you are naughty, they'll keep on coming.

Magooagain

9,959 posts

170 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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lowdrag said:
Magooagain said:
Let's hope people just get pulled when the offence happens and just get a fine.
If it is a mobile camera, yes, you'll be fined on the spot. These letters that drop through your letterbox are from fixed cameras with no BiB present. so, if you are naughty, they'll keep on coming.
Yea I know! I had just the one in nearly twenty years.

psi310398

9,060 posts

203 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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lowdrag said:
If it is a mobile camera, yes, you'll be fined on the spot. These letters that drop through your letterbox are from fixed cameras with no BiB present. so, if you are naughty, they'll keep on coming.
That’s interesting.

A few weeks ago, I spotted a mobile one, in time, on the autoroute between Lyon and Clermont, near Vichy (very sneakily positioned, too) but I never saw the patrol car that would do the pulling in. Presumably it was an unmarked one.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Now we are independent what’s the situation with fines not received in the spot? Say speeding caught on camera - is it simply unenforceable.

Likewise if EU drivers get caught on cam is it unenforceable to fine then and give them points?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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The UK has been an independent state throughout its history.

Brexit does not render the law of any country unenforceable. Registration details continue to be shared between EU states and the UK.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Breadvan72 said:
The UK has been an independent state throughout its history.

Brexit does not render the law of any country unenforceable. Registration details continue to be shared between EU states and the UK.
Pretty sure the debates in parliament in the late 1980’s were all about the fact we were giving up some sovereignty for EU access.
The ECJ overruled our Supreme Court

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Partial sharing of sovereignty in specific areas is not uncommon. See for example ICAO. The debates in the 60s and pre 1973 made the partial sharing clear.

The proof that the UK was always independent is Brexit.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 1st January 12:46