Heads up regarding UK visitors

Heads up regarding UK visitors

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Fatt McMissile

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330 posts

133 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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I have shamelessly copied this from a Twitter thread. Despite some disagreeing, the author could back up all his statements.Of course, whether the rules will be followed we don't know, as it says, you may be asked for this. It'll be a good idea for gite owners to send a printable receipt for accommodation (with siret) to their guests and bring to their notice the possible requirement to present it, and for those hosting friends to dig further to see if the attestation d'accueil is required in practice. Of course, a gite owner can easily issue an accommodation receipt to family or friend visits......

If anyone can provide evidence that refutes this I shall be delighted. My advice is to search official French websites, rather than journals, comment etc
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At the border, you may be asked for three pieces of information:

1. Motive for your stay in France, ie:
- for tourism: a hotel or other accommodation reservation
- in the absence of a hotel reservation, the traveller has to prove that he possesses means of living of at least 120€ per day – see point 2, documents from a travel agency;
- for a professional visit: letter from the employer, invitation from a French firm or org;
- for a private visit for example to visit and stay with a friend: “attestation d'accueil” delivered by the “mairie” (more on this below)

2. Means of living (cash, traveller's cheques, valid international credit card) along with an insurance certificate covering all medical, hospital and funeral expenses, which may be incurred during the entire period of your stay in France, inc medical repatriation costs;

3. Guarantees of return: return ticket.

Just to remind you, these are standard rules for third-country nationals and nothing particularly to do with Brits.
So, about the “attestation d'accueil”. Here are the rules: https://service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F...

Basically, if you are staying with friends, you need to be registered with the town hall of the commune that you will be staying at PRIOR TO ENTERING THE COUNTRY.
The person housing you will need to provide a chunk of information (including proof of ownership of the property, proof of residence at the address, ID documents, proof of revenue, commit to supporting you financially if required and so on). There is a 30€ fee.
The relevant town hall can take up to one month to respond.
The applicant will be issued with a certificate which they will then need to send to you for you to be able to enter the country.

I repeat what I say in the title, this is a heads up in case you have missed it.

Edited by Fatt McMissile on Sunday 16th May 10:19

Rushjob

1,853 posts

258 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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Yep, this was confirmed by the British Embassy in Paris

abzmike

8,373 posts

106 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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Lots of countries round the world require you to have in hand proof of funds (credit card usually acceptable) return or onward travel tickets and/or accommodation booking. Can’t recall being asked to show them, except when entering the US.

Rushjob

1,853 posts

258 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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abzmike said:
Lots of countries round the world require you to have in hand proof of funds (credit card usually acceptable) return or onward travel tickets and/or accommodation booking. Can’t recall being asked to show them, except when entering the US.
But you just know that there's going to be numerous Sun / Mail / Mirror front pages of compo faced Brits complaining " Brexit ruined my holiday abroad" rolleyesrolleyes

rdjohn

6,177 posts

195 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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Ref Para 2 possession of a GHIC is sufficient.

France is the most visited country in Europe and many people pass through it to an onward destination within the EU. i feel sure if you arriving in a tatty van with a mattress in the back then you can expect to be queried,

But if you are disembarking from a Brittany Ferry in August with a couple of bikes strapped to the back of your shiny new SUV, I would expect to get waived through.

Turkeys usually don't vote for Christmas. Now a flight from Rabat or Algiers into Roissy will be a completely different kettle of fish.

old'uns

542 posts

133 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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jeez....
i was given the opportunity 2 weeks ago to sell our house to a French couple who have sold their home a few doors away but still have land at the side of ours....given all the hoops we'll be jumping through soon i maybe should have said yes laugh

there is some serious paperwork to sort out for every visit now, i fear my grass may be like Jumanji soon

smifffymoto

4,551 posts

205 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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If it’s your own home you will have bills to prove it’s your home and therefore not need the certificate.

old'uns

542 posts

133 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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yes i understand that, just venting at no one in particular, getting annoyed at the amount of other things to remember before i can travel smile
no doubt at some point we'll come across BiB who want every little bit of paper present and correct

be nice just to be able to jump in the car with car papers, Wallet, Passport and keys, book a ferry and say right i'm on my way

abzmike

8,373 posts

106 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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I don’t see why having some money or a credit card, proof of health insurance, and a booking of somewhere to stay, or proof of accommodation, on your first night is so onerous.

smifffymoto

4,551 posts

205 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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In some Facebook groups people are apoplectic,this is the end of the world as we know it.
Personally it’s just another reason for family to stay in the UK.

Magooagain

9,977 posts

170 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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A government email I received this morning tells uk residents to have travel insurance in place before leaving the country.

rdjohn

6,177 posts

195 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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https://www.gov.uk/visit-eu-switzerland-norway-ice...

Current government advice, it's not onerous, just common sense.

Magooagain

9,977 posts

170 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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rdjohn said:
https://www.gov.uk/visit-eu-switzerland-norway-ice...

Current government advice, it's not onerous, just common sense.
Am I missing something though Rodger? Where does it say a GHIC will suffice?

It seems,to me,that the GHIC may be of some help but as with the EHIC it's not going to get you back to Blighty without some sort of hefty hospital bill.

Can I presume that a traveling Brit resident won't be able leave the UK without insurance proof?

Fatt McMissile

Original Poster:

330 posts

133 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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rdjohn

6,177 posts

195 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Magooagain said:
Am I missing something though Rodger? Where does it say a GHIC will suffice?

It seems,to me,that the GHIC may be of some help but as with the EHIC it's not going to get you back to Blighty without some sort of hefty hospital bill.

Can I presume that a traveling Brit resident won't be able leave the UK without insurance proof?
I think if you are young and fit and were happy travelling to the EU with a EHIC, then my feeling is that nothing has changed with a GHIC.

If you felt less confident and wanted to take out extra cover for repatriation lost cases etc, then also, nothing much has changes.

I found out last year that my French CEAM only covered about 50% of the costs of falling ill in Spain. Assuming that it did, i did not inform my VISA travel insurance that i might want to claim, and so could not, when i knew the full story. I have never thought of travelling to the US , or Asia without a high level of travel cover. Stuff does happen and there has never been GHIC cover

The key point is that Brexit has made some changes and if you are a glass half empty person you might think that they are massive. I prefer my glass half full - at least.

Magooagain

9,977 posts

170 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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https://www.ghic---healthcard.co.uk/?gclid=EAIaIQo...
It seems to me it would be unwise to travel without a travel insurance.

Thatman

32 posts

198 months

Saturday 22nd May 2021
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No - A GHIC or EHIC is free of charge. Beware of unofficial websites, they may charge you a fee to apply.

Glade

4,266 posts

223 months

Saturday 22nd May 2021
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My girlfriend is a French national... we're planning to go to see her parents for the first time since covid kicked off in July, (after cancelling our Christmas trip, and the rescheduled trip in April).

So i guess we need the certificate from the mayor?

He French friends circulated some information on this... and I took it as a British newspaper taking a technicality and making a story of it.... but inguess if no alternative arrangement is made we better get the process started on the certificate?

rdjohn

6,177 posts

195 months

Saturday 22nd May 2021
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We have had guests from USA, Australia and NZ. They have never been hassled or asked for additional documentation, so it should be the same for visiting Brits.

Your partner has a right to visit the country of her birth. Perhaps her parents could write you an invoice for 50 centimes per night to overcome your concerns.

The same headlines are appearing in Spain yet the reality is that their Government are desperate to get their holiday season underway by inviting Brits to arrive by the planeloads, against Boris’s wishes.