Heads up regarding UK visitors
Discussion
s that voted for brexit 
Thatman said:
It pays to understand healthcare systems in the country that you're visiting. In France (for example) healthcare is not free in the same sense as it is in the UK. Every single consultation, intervention, bandage, plaster, lab test has to be paid for, usually before leaving the hospital/clinic/surgery. For a french citizen or legal immigrant like me, the item and the fee is recorded on our health accounts following presentation, often before the consultation takes place, of a state issued smart card with photo and chip. Despite having the smart card, the patient often has to pay there and then, by bank card, cheque, or cash, as in the case of my GP. In most cases 70% of a patient's healthcare account is settled by the state, refunded if you've paid up front, and the balance must be settled by the patient. Cases where this doesn't apply are for acts associated with a life threatening condition or long-term illness, or where the patient has a complimentary insurance that covers the shortfall, or for patients of meagre means.
This is a very simplistic summary and example of how the french system works, it is complicated and bureaucratic but nowadays of course, computers do all that.....
I'll draw your attention to the webpage that you link to regarding the GHIC:
"Some countries ask patients to pay a contribution towards the cost of their care, such as for prescription costs. This is known as a co-payment or patient share.
You can claim back the difference between the total bill and the patient share, but the patient share is not refundable.
Keep all receipts and any paperwork. You or your insurance company may need them if you're applying for a refund."
Over the years we've taken several of our gite guests to see a doctor, usually followed by the pharmacy and sometimes path lab. They have all had to settle each account there and then and issued with an official receipt that they can use to reclaim the state share at the nearest "health account" office (long queue), or from the DHSS when they return to the UK. For most of these simple treatments, the charge is very reasonable and I don't think any of them would have benefitted from a holiday insurance, but of course insurance is to cover the unexpected.
Glade said:
My girlfriend is a French national... we're planning to go to see her parents for the first time since covid kicked off in July, (after cancelling our Christmas trip, and the rescheduled trip in April).
So i guess we need the certificate from the mayor?
He French friends circulated some information on this... and I took it as a British newspaper taking a technicality and making a story of it.... but inguess if no alternative arrangement is made we better get the process started on the certificate?
It is the law, and no-one knows yet how firmly it will be applied. The experience of EU, including Italian and German nationals, illegally having their passports held and being taken to detention by the UK border force won't help. So i guess we need the certificate from the mayor?
He French friends circulated some information on this... and I took it as a British newspaper taking a technicality and making a story of it.... but inguess if no alternative arrangement is made we better get the process started on the certificate?
Like health insurance etc. discussed here, in the end it all boils down to the Dirty Harry question.
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Brexit...
Given the scary headline, i am surprised no one had posted this earlier.
Given the scary headline, i am surprised no one had posted this earlier.
Daily Mail reckons anyone fully vaccinated will be allowed in for any reason, including tourism from the 9th.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9651743/F...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9651743/F...
You''l find life far easier if you download the Tous Anticovid app and scan your NHS q code into it, restaurants etc here are using the Tous anticovid Verife app and there are lots of reports over here that NHS certs aren't reading causing problems.
My S I L arrived last week with the Tous Anticovid version and she passed loads of miffed brits in the queue at the passport control and has no issues at restaurants. Just as a test, we tried her NHS one it at my mate's restaurant and computer said NON
My S I L arrived last week with the Tous Anticovid version and she passed loads of miffed brits in the queue at the passport control and has no issues at restaurants. Just as a test, we tried her NHS one it at my mate's restaurant and computer said NON
We tried to use the Tous Covid app with our latest NHS Qcode at a restaurant (L'Ardoise) in Ouisterham last week be fore catching the ferry but app said NON, tried 3 different scanners and enlarged un-enlarged Qcode but none worked, manager let us in anyway as he could see that the codes were valid codes from the printed NHS vax cert.
1st restaurant didn’t recognise paper certificate (does not have qr code). Pharmacy said they would generate one then his boss said no.
Anxiety if not getting into other destination restaurants etc was too much for Mrs Nobrakes so had to download nhs app. Omg might as well put a chip in the back of your head - it’s so invasive.
Anxiety if not getting into other destination restaurants etc was too much for Mrs Nobrakes so had to download nhs app. Omg might as well put a chip in the back of your head - it’s so invasive.
nobrakes said:
1st restaurant didn’t recognise paper certificate (does not have qr code). Pharmacy said they would generate one then his boss said no.
Anxiety if not getting into other destination restaurants etc was too much for Mrs Nobrakes so had to download nhs app. Omg might as well put a chip in the back of your head - it’s so invasive.
And now you need to download the 'tous anti covid'app then find the verification app and transfer your qr code onto that. Then you will find it in your 'wallet'Anxiety if not getting into other destination restaurants etc was too much for Mrs Nobrakes so had to download nhs app. Omg might as well put a chip in the back of your head - it’s so invasive.
You won't get into many places without it.
We’ve just returned from France after being out there a month.
No pass no entry to restaurants or anywhere that requires one.
All fairly easy, NHS app, have it on your phone and no issues.
If it doesn’t work lots also look for the 2 of 2.
The faff of test before hand and filling out passenger locator form uk border was boring. Still we got through ok and no one checked our paperwork. Although I liked to think it’s all linked with our passports.
No pass no entry to restaurants or anywhere that requires one.
All fairly easy, NHS app, have it on your phone and no issues.
If it doesn’t work lots also look for the 2 of 2.
The faff of test before hand and filling out passenger locator form uk border was boring. Still we got through ok and no one checked our paperwork. Although I liked to think it’s all linked with our passports.
Edited by Simes205 on Friday 27th August 07:44
Simes205 said:
We’ve just returned from France after being out there a month.
No pass no entry to restaurants or anywhere that requires one.
All fairly easy, NHS app, have it on your phone and no issues.
If it doesn’t work lots also look for the 2 of 2.
The faff of test before hand and filling out passenger locator form uk border was boring. Still we got through ok and no one checked our paperwork. Although I liked to think it’s all linked with our passports.
The PLF is linked with your passport. I've been going backwards and forwards through the tunnel for the past few months, and initially they wanted to see docs. Last few times I went through, the British border guys told me it's all linked up now, so they'll only ask for Test proof or ask for proof if there's something awry. He recommended still taking paper copies of the PLF, Covid Test etc. No pass no entry to restaurants or anywhere that requires one.
All fairly easy, NHS app, have it on your phone and no issues.
If it doesn’t work lots also look for the 2 of 2.
The faff of test before hand and filling out passenger locator form uk border was boring. Still we got through ok and no one checked our paperwork. Although I liked to think it’s all linked with our passports.
Edited by Simes205 on Friday 27th August 07:44
jezzaaa said:
Simes205 said:
We’ve just returned from France after being out there a month.
No pass no entry to restaurants or anywhere that requires one.
All fairly easy, NHS app, have it on your phone and no issues.
If it doesn’t work lots also look for the 2 of 2.
The faff of test before hand and filling out passenger locator form uk border was boring. Still we got through ok and no one checked our paperwork. Although I liked to think it’s all linked with our passports.
The PLF is linked with your passport. I've been going backwards and forwards through the tunnel for the past few months, and initially they wanted to see docs. Last few times I went through, the British border guys told me it's all linked up now, so they'll only ask for Test proof or ask for proof if there's something awry. He recommended still taking paper copies of the PLF, Covid Test etc. No pass no entry to restaurants or anywhere that requires one.
All fairly easy, NHS app, have it on your phone and no issues.
If it doesn’t work lots also look for the 2 of 2.
The faff of test before hand and filling out passenger locator form uk border was boring. Still we got through ok and no one checked our paperwork. Although I liked to think it’s all linked with our passports.
Edited by Simes205 on Friday 27th August 07:44
Simes205 said:
I spoke with a friend today who has let’s say had a hand in writing some of the code for passport checking. The PLF form is linked but what happens after that was not within his remit.
Indeed...PLF and passport should be straight forward. However, it's harder to see how the test result could be linked in, until the PLF includes the need to upload test results, and someone/something is checking its valid. Does it?? I should be able to remember this as I only did it about 2 weeks ago, but can't! Approaching 50...! 
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