Powers 4.5Super Sports & Anti Knock MBE Timeline

Powers 4.5Super Sports & Anti Knock MBE Timeline

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Incognegro

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1,560 posts

132 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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I've posted about my rebuild currently being done on other threads, but after reading about Getsis and his 4.5SS with Syvecs (great & very informative, I will refer to as "other post") I thought I'd do one. To try and help others that may be considering this option.

After originally wanting to do the standard s6 rebuild to S spec (just adding larger injectors then the MBE to manage timing and everything) Dom showed me some nasty pictures



In the way of cracked liners and block damage... which I now know was the cause of my car belching so much smoke/oil when pressing on.

Dom was adamant he wouldn't let me be the mule for his 4.7ss so I went for his currently largest package (I could/should have worded that better).

From the start I have been wanting this to be the last tweak so I've gone for launch and tcs... Jason has spent time with me already showing and informing of the desired outcome. After eading the heat sink issues from the "other post" I had been thinking of this and am hoping the new heat shielding to bulk head/exhaust tunnel and engine bay as well as decats and manifolds now being at camcoat for prepping stage of thier ceramic coating. My thoughts being to manage heat better and make everything just run smoother. The new hi torque starter motor is also being heat shielded and fasted with the stainless straps.



At the same time airboxes have been carbon dipped (no performance gains but we have to have looks too.. right?)





Calipers went of to Jody at Python racing and are amazing... highly recommend top chap wink
Now to update last I saw 3 of the 6 cylinders had been machined I'm assuming more now and the block being ready for honing, crank ready and rods there?



I plan on speaking to Dom at some point today sir an eta but this has been the most patience I have ever shown as I'm wanting things to just go right 1st time. Got some great run in drives planned of which there are 2kmiles (1k tappets 1k for mapping) and data will be monitored and logged using torque pro on android via Bluetooth.

Expect me to update as I know more about running in/fuel usage and the other more important bits wink ,Questions I'll try and answer and any advice on what might make it a better read do politely say.

Edited by Incognegro on Monday 27th March 20:48

ginkent

152 posts

93 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Can I ask what budget you're aiming at "all-in" ?

Outl4w

697 posts

146 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Exciting mate, looking forward to watching this unfold.

Think You are off to a bad start though, you are missing 2 cylinders..... 😝

glow worm

5,799 posts

226 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Don't forget to buy your MBE USB-CAN interface cable (£125 frown ) and get Jays profiles for MBE s/w .

Incognegro

Original Poster:

1,560 posts

132 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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glow worm said:
Don't forget to buy your MBE USB-CAN interface cable (£125 frown ) and get Jays profiles for MBE s/w .
A lot of due diligence/research went into this mate and all transparent. I'm not that way inclined but a netbook has been purchased and another handshake done wink

Incognegro

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1,560 posts

132 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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ginkent said:
Can I ask what budget you're aiming at "all-in" ?
lots of the folding stuff and we argued for a while... pm me on that mate

Incognegro

Original Poster:

1,560 posts

132 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Outl4w said:
Exciting mate, looking forward to watching this unfold.

Think You are off to a bad start though, you are missing 2 cylinders..... ??
I can only laugh mate... squeaky bum time? meet me at the lights wink

glow worm

5,799 posts

226 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Since you've done your due diligence ... As a matter of interest (before I put mine up for sale) How many 4.5SS with anti-knock MBE ECUs are out there now ?

Incognegro

Original Poster:

1,560 posts

132 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Dom will be along to answer that... my questions were very cover my back. TBH it's something I've always wanted and the Tuscan dynoing at 416 (from a standard car had me sold).

There was a que also no joke mine was one of 10engines in dome machine lab (seen with my own eyes) I see Dom keeps origin close as engines were marked in sharpie pen like of old with customers name and cc of build.

Question of you do sell what would you buy? Would it be to the tune of say 15k more? If so then imagine that going into your Cerb backed with 100k warranty wink and from what other 4.5ss owners have told me (not necessarily with MBE) yes it does come back a new car.

I can already here ajp owners saying yeah only cos you have launch or spent xxxx zzzzzzzz... core blimey I'm picking fights already.
PS Outlaw started it

Incognegro

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1,560 posts

132 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Latest pic leaked wink




Nice I you can visually see the bigger bore size. Now I know why Dom didn't let me have the 4.7 before testing. Those liner walls may have to be thinner for the extra capacity?

Why do weekends take so long. Hurry up Monday so the lads can crack on bounce

Edited by Incognegro on Monday 27th March 20:50

Incognegro

Original Poster:

1,560 posts

132 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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  • UPDATE*
Spoke with Dom this AM engine rebuilt like clockwork, So now heat shielding to be installed while we await Camcoat to finish and return manifolds etc.

throttle body bushings, being done and blasted as we speak.

Then its a visit to spec ideal location for traction/launch control buttons and their associated led lights bounce

Got some mega drives set for the run in miles inc. 450m (round trip) to pick up some Nankang NS2-R for the rears 250m (round trip) to see my mates at Totally Dynamic for my all important Super Sports decals and logos wink then a trip to central TVR and thats very nearly my 1000k tappets run in in 3 trips (I'll take to work a couple of times to sort the few other miles).

So maybe Thrills in the Hills I won't be left behind as id be on the 3k rpm limit lol. soon as Dom updates me with pics I'll put them up.

billynobrakes

2,675 posts

264 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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I had to still take it easy in my 4.5 upgrade till I put another 1500 miles on it then it went back for a re-map and rolling road session before I could drive it like I stole it, you will not be disappointed

Incognegro

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1,560 posts

132 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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I'll listen to your advice billy. I thought it was 1k for the *tappets then you can drive hard for another 1k then the final mapping session. I realise car can't be ragged but I think I can see more of the power even though it will be on the base map. Your won't be disappointed comment just builds suspense mate, now I'm counting the seconds. Will have to get on some TDs with you in future too.

  • Edited as auto correct had pulled my pants down
Edited by Incognegro on Monday 3rd April 20:32

Outl4w

697 posts

146 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Incognegro said:
I can only laugh mate... squeaky bum time? meet me at the lights wink
Ha! Can't wait to see it done mate. Summer isn't far away....

GazzaM100

209 posts

137 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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Don't suppose you saw a Dark Blue Tamora hopefully without an engine, when last there?

Incognegro

Original Poster:

1,560 posts

132 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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From memory I "think" I did but maybe it wasn't the only one? Sorry Gazza.

A little update... Ceramic coating has taken longer than anticipated (down to Camcoat perhaps being bogged under). after many apologies they have advised and promised they will be back with Powers by Tuesday. As of yesterday parts were fully prepped and the base layer was laid... Today the begging the final stages with completion and shipping on Monday. They look healthy with just a clean and base coat so I cant wait to see the TurboX black and blue final finishes.



Then onto Dom for reassembly and MBE upgrade, then we can go into the switch locations and electric PAS.

I may be getting ceramic coat OCD as Im thinking Rad, exhaust and possibly G'box casing could be on next years list

Incognegro

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1,560 posts

132 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Quick update to say Camcoat are on a wind up... from initially being told completion the week 10/4/17 to then being told parts are a priority and will be done Monday (Yesterday) and arrive with Dom today. I called to check status and guess what "They will definitely be done by the end of the week" WTF guys "they will go out on Thursday and Dom will have them on Friday... its just we are so busy"

Thats really annoyed me as I fully understand they are busy and am glad they are but its even more important to manage expectations better especially as its being coordinated with other things. Quality of work and advice on spec given so far I cant fault them but clear communication leaves a lot to be desired.

Updates to come frown

KSV

454 posts

145 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Sorry to hear that mate as puts back our run outs again!!
but don't worry Christmas lights will be available in the shops soon. laughlaugh

GazzaM100

209 posts

137 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Let's hope Dom is getting on with mine while he waits lol
Interesting topic though, keep it up

Incognegro

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1,560 posts

132 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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KSV said:
Sorry to hear that mate as puts back our run outs again!!
but don't worry Christmas lights will be available in the shops soon. laughlaugh
Col... what you mean I should get more leds for the interior ;P