Removing front disc - rounded bolt head...

Removing front disc - rounded bolt head...

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griggsy2

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126 posts

280 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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The genius who changed the front right disc last rounded the bolt head but shoved it back on regardless...

Can't get the bloody thing out with heat and penetrating fluid as the 6 side socket just lifts off. Any tips or tricks before I kill something?

steveo3002

10,515 posts

174 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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have a look at irwin bolt grippers....work very well if theres access

HustleRussell

24,689 posts

160 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Reduced head bolts aren't they?

Have you got a sacrificial 6-point socket you can grind down to remove the internal chamfer?

I changed my brake discs a couple of weekends ago, they are capheads on later cars like mine but they are bloody tight so I gave them a decent whack with an impact screwdriver before winding them out.

griggsy2

Original Poster:

126 posts

280 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Popped out to grab some of the Irwin bolt removers but alas, not quite enough clearance as they have hex tops.


griggsy2

Original Poster:

126 posts

280 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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HustleRussell said:
Reduced head bolts aren't they?

Have you got a sacrificial 6-point socket you can grind down to remove the internal chamfer?

I changed my brake discs a couple of weekends ago, they are capheads on later cars like mine but they are bloody tight so I gave them a decent whack with an impact screwdriver before winding them out.
Spell that out for me, I don't mind sacrificing anything to get this bugger out. Need to find replacement bolts somewhere (nothing obvious on caterham parts), silly bloody idea to use such flat heads...

steveo3002

10,515 posts

174 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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how about a picture...not familar with that car but had my share of rounded bolts over the years

F355GTS

3,721 posts

255 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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The bolt heads have been shaved down for clearance, most sockets have an internal chamfer so it doesn't purchase well on these bolts, if you grind the chamfer off more of the socket will bit the bolt head. From memory its a 9/16 head, I've a ground socket here in Berks if you're not too far away

Caterham will be the only source for replacement bolts unless you want to make your own

griggsy2

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280 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Sure, here's the little prick...




souper

2,433 posts

211 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Centre punch and drill, left hand drill bits a bonus.

griggsy2

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126 posts

280 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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It looks that way frown

I guess drill down all the way and re tap the thread?

HustleRussell

24,689 posts

160 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Try the ground down socket first
It's not a blind hole so you have the luxury of access to both ends of the bolt, you shouldn't have to drill it out entirely. If all else fails, drill the head off and twist it out with a screwdriver

griggsy2

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126 posts

280 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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OK, thanks all.

Any recommendation where to get the bolts to replace? Seems 14mm head, 9.4mm wide body, 22mm long under head.. Couldn't see anything matching.

HustleRussell

24,689 posts

160 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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This it?

Guessing your car is imperial...

souper

2,433 posts

211 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Shouldn't have to redrill and tap to a larger size.
Drill with small drills use a counter sink or large drill and the head will pop off, as you get nearer to the diameter of the threads it will come out you can even use a small screwdriver to crush inwards.

griggsy2

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126 posts

280 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Russell, I just worked out what you meant with removing the champfer. (Also missed your explanation Mark as I was uploading the pics, appreciate the offer!)

Filed down the socket in a vice, hammered it down flush and off it popped, magic! Will save that socket off for all future disc changes.

Much appreciate the help all!


Edited by griggsy2 on Monday 21st August 18:00

steveo3002

10,515 posts

174 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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sharp chisel and hammer it anticlockwise ...a proper good slug with a hammer should turn it unless theyre silly tight

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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steveo3002 said:
sharp chisel and hammer it anticlockwise ...a proper good slug with a hammer should turn it unless theyre silly tight
This is pretty much exactly what I was going to type. If it absolutely refuses to budge, than a nice new shiny nut welded on top of the hex will sort it (assuming you have a welder handy, or know someone who does).

griggsy2

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126 posts

280 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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HustleRussell said:
This it?

Guessing your car is imperial...
Looks too long, though description seems correct.. 1.1/2" is what, 38mm?

Tango7

688 posts

226 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Cut slot with a dremel and use a large screwdriver to remove it or drill a hole slightly smaller than the shank and knock the head off. Lift the disc off and then use some mole grips to remove the shank from the thread. As soon as the head is removed and pressure released, you should easily be able to get the rest out - been there, done that...!

griggsy2

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126 posts

280 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Thanks. The ground down socket and a hammer did the trick bow