Paul Matty - Blue Exige S2

Paul Matty - Blue Exige S2

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dank

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955 posts

191 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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I have just seen the lovely blue S2 Exige at Paul Matty Cars and I am hoping to go and see the car this week. I was looking for an S, but this car looks so good, and I love the colour, does anyone know the car? What do people think of Paul Matty in general, good place to buy? Also what do people think i of the price, it seems quite near higher mileage S pricing,

thanks

popegregory

704 posts

73 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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I can only help with my experience from nine years ago but they are lotus through and through, sold me an immaculate vehicle and didn’t even blink over fixing what were, in hindsight, silly things that were arguably just general maintenance I could have done.

Composite Guru

1,738 posts

142 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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I've had no experience with PM but I have heard you will pay a premium for his cars.

If you want a mint car then this is one place to go but you will pay for it.

dank

Original Poster:

955 posts

191 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Thanks for the replies

So what’s good pricing for 2006 S2 Exige / 37k miles ?

What’s a premium ??? Maybe 2-3k to get an immaculate one from a dealer?

I am assuming I’ll get piece of mind with regards to any damage / misalignment of geometry / undertray or tub damage if I buy from a dealer - no need for my own inspection ?

popegregory

704 posts

73 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Composite Guru said:
I've had no experience with PM but I have heard you will pay a premium for his cars.

If you want a mint car then this is one place to go but you will pay for it.
Mine was perfectly competitive
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Composite Guru

1,738 posts

142 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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popegregory said:
Composite Guru said:
I've had no experience with PM but I have heard you will pay a premium for his cars.

If you want a mint car then this is one place to go but you will pay for it.
Mine was perfectly competitive
More competition nowadays?

Composite Guru

1,738 posts

142 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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dank said:
Thanks for the replies

So what’s good pricing for 2006 S2 Exige / 37k miles ?

What’s a premium ??? Maybe 2-3k to get an immaculate one from a dealer?

I am assuming I’ll get piece of mind with regards to any damage / misalignment of geometry / undertray or tub damage if I buy from a dealer - no need for my own inspection ?
That sound like a fair price for a non SC Exige. Well looked after ones seem to sit around that price.

Buying from PM will ensure you that the car is straight. He does only sell nice examples (unless stated) so you wont have a problem.

The fact it has just had a suspension refresh on it too, it should drive like a new car.

dank

Original Poster:

955 posts

191 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Thanks for that. I see that some SC cars are around this price or slightly more, but with double the miles, and not the colour I like! I see it’s top money for an NA car but yes would like the piece of mind it’s straight and a well looked after example.

kiethton

10,588 posts

119 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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If it helps I paid £2k less for my ‘07 plate S2 last year, albeit from a private seller on SELOC. Mine is the same colour, touring, N/A but had 10k less miles and a few bits of extra paint done (spoiler/splitter colour coded) so fairly comparable.

Given what’s out there now and provided other common failure bits have been done and the service history stacks up £26k from a dealer seems fair, others around are a lot more! (Although there is a “S” on seloc in same colour with 23k miles asking £30k. Or an orange “S” with same miles and age for £27k, for such a small difference I’d be tempted).

Edited by kiethton on Monday 17th December 17:08

dank

Original Poster:

955 posts

191 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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So it’s had a suspension refresh - what other known issues / bits should it have had done in order for it to be worth the 26k asking price ?

Track_Cit

468 posts

161 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Interestingly this car was on Autotrader some time ago and I enquired about it, price is similar so I suspect they are either selling on a SOR basis for owner or have bought it for less and are selling on.

Have a look on youtube, there are some good videos regarding what to look for. The older cars have a lot of areas which can corrode so you need to inspect all of these points and make sure you're happy. Also check for leaks as the seals go on them, both boot area and doors. I looked at some right dogs before buying mine that were full of water and generally shat.

The rest is common sense. Check tyres / brakes / general condition. It'll be easy to see if it's been well cared for. Also check front clam to see if it's been painted, and if so, well or badly (you'll see the orange peel effect if not done to a good standard). Good luck.

Track_Cit

468 posts

161 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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kiethton said:
If it helps I paid £2k less for my ‘07 plate S2 last year, albeit from a private seller on SELOC. Mine is the same colour, touring, N/A but had 10k less miles and a few bits of extra paint done (spoiler/splitter colour coded) so fairly comparable.

Given what’s out there now and provided other common failure bits have been done and the service history stacks up £26k from a dealer seems fair, others around are a lot more! (Although there is a “S” on seloc in same colour with 23k miles asking £30k. Or an orange “S” with same miles and age for £27k, for such a small difference I’d be tempted).

Edited by kiethton on Monday 17th December 17:08
Yes, some sellers seem intent on asking unrealistic prices for them, but you'll see they don't sell and remain listed for months.

Composite Guru

1,738 posts

142 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Track_Cit said:
Have a look on youtube, there are some good videos regarding what to look for. The older cars have a lot of areas which can corrode so you need to inspect all of these points and make sure you're happy. Also check for leaks as the seals go on them, both boot area and doors. I looked at some right dogs before buying mine that were full of water and generally shat.
That’s why I take mine off the road and store it in a carcoon over the winter.
So many mock me for doing it but these cars are not everyday cars that are designed to be used in the salt etc.



Edited by Composite Guru on Tuesday 18th December 14:16

dank

Original Poster:

955 posts

191 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Track_Cit said:
Interestingly this car was on Autotrader some time ago and I enquired about it, price is similar so I suspect they are either selling on a SOR basis for owner or have bought it for less and are selling on.

Have a look on youtube, there are some good videos regarding what to look for. The older cars have a lot of areas which can corrode so you need to inspect all of these points and make sure you're happy. Also check for leaks as the seals go on them, both boot area and doors. I looked at some right dogs before buying mine that were full of water and generally shat.

The rest is common sense. Check tyres / brakes / general condition. It'll be easy to see if it's been well cared for. Also check front clam to see if it's been painted, and if so, well or badly (you'll see the orange peel effect if not done to a good standard). Good luck.
any reason you didn't buy this car / or look at it?


Track_Cit

468 posts

161 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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dank said:
Track_Cit said:
Interestingly this car was on Autotrader some time ago and I enquired about it, price is similar so I suspect they are either selling on a SOR basis for owner or have bought it for less and are selling on.

Have a look on youtube, there are some good videos regarding what to look for. The older cars have a lot of areas which can corrode so you need to inspect all of these points and make sure you're happy. Also check for leaks as the seals go on them, both boot area and doors. I looked at some right dogs before buying mine that were full of water and generally shat.

The rest is common sense. Check tyres / brakes / general condition. It'll be easy to see if it's been well cared for. Also check front clam to see if it's been painted, and if so, well or badly (you'll see the orange peel effect if not done to a good standard). Good luck.
any reason you didn't buy this car / or look at it?
No particular reason, I had a few thoughts on it. I wanted a supercharged one as I didn't think NA would cut it coming from my previous car, and also I decided to buy a newer S3 elise as it offered better VFM for the cost. You can get decent finance deals on newer ones so that may be an option too.

Beachbum

2,498 posts

170 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Composite Guru said:
Track_Cit said:
Have a look on youtube, there are some good videos regarding what to look for. The older cars have a lot of areas which can corrode so you need to inspect all of these points and make sure you're happy. Also check for leaks as the seals go on them, both boot area and doors. I looked at some right dogs before buying mine that were full of water and generally shat.
That’s why I take mine off the road and store it in a carcoon over the winter.
So many mock me for doing it but these cars are not everyday cars that are designed to be used in the salt etc.



Edited by Composite Guru on Tuesday 18th December 14:16
Completely disagree. 13yr old 111R ran every day come rain or shine. The ONLY thing to be wary of is standing water, other than that it is no different than any other car, in the usability stakes. As to corrosion etc, no issues with mine either, just needs to be maintained as would any car

Composite Guru

1,738 posts

142 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Beachbum said:
Completely disagree. 13yr old 111R ran every day come rain or shine. The ONLY thing to be wary of is standing water, other than that it is no different than any other car, in the usability stakes. As to corrosion etc, no issues with mine either, just needs to be maintained as would any car
Each to ones own I suppose.

Track_Cit

468 posts

161 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Composite Guru said:
Beachbum said:
Completely disagree. 13yr old 111R ran every day come rain or shine. The ONLY thing to be wary of is standing water, other than that it is no different than any other car, in the usability stakes. As to corrosion etc, no issues with mine either, just needs to be maintained as would any car
Each to ones own I suppose.
Of course you can drive them in any weather but I suppose it depends on whether or not you care about it getting completely f*cked.

I'd rather buy one off the guy who keeps it in a cocoon than someone who uses it in the same way as a ford fiesta.

Edited by Track_Cit on Wednesday 19th December 16:46

Composite Guru

1,738 posts

142 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Track_Cit said:
Composite Guru said:
Beachbum said:
Completely disagree. 13yr old 111R ran every day come rain or shine. The ONLY thing to be wary of is standing water, other than that it is no different than any other car, in the usability stakes. As to corrosion etc, no issues with mine either, just needs to be maintained as would any car
Each to ones own I suppose.
I'd rather buy one off the guy who keeps it in a cocoon than someone who uses it in the same way as a ford fiesta! biggrin I'd like to see the underside of yours....
I bought the car 14 months old from a guy near Aberdeen. He had used it in the rain but not in the winter and the arms have corrosion on them already. He said they had a coat of ACF on them from new. The driveshafts and rear trackrods have a lot of surface rust too.
I don't want to go clagging the wheel arches up with loads of sticky snot so just take the thing off the road when it gets colder.
I did 4000 miles in it last year so made up for the time it was off the road last year.

So many people bh about me taking it off the road but I've bought the car for long term ownership so don't want to be replacing rusty parts just because I cant wait for spring.
Cleaning and maintaining cars in the freezing cold isn't on my list of things I like to do so I avoid this by not using it. Ok I have a daily but that gets a quick wash every few weeks but nothing special.

carspath

465 posts

116 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Beach bum ,

Please could you tell me if your car was stored outside or garaged ?

I am considering an Elise/Exige , but will not have garaging space for it

Thank you
(Others please chime in too )