£4000 Stereo

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dave1409

218 posts

177 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Durzel said:
With in car systems getting more and more extensive having an integrated system makes more and more sense. Yes you can buy better aftermarket systems, but do they fully integrate with the car, pause and mute when you receive a call, etc?
My aftermarket car audio system uses the original head unit and appears identical to the HK option, but isn't.

Toltec

7,159 posts

222 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Troubleatmill said:
Toltec said:
AndStilliRise said:
thebraketester said:
Shame they don't do a "noise cancelling" type system that mutes the road noise. Or do they?
Great idea!
The Bose noise cancelling earphones work well in my kit car.
How do you hear things you need to...?
Like Fire engine sirens, ambulances, police cars, other cars etc alerting you to where they are
It was a bit tongue in cheek, they do work well at noise cancelling, but are only average at actually reproducing music.

They work mostly on lower frequency sounds so while somewhat muted you can hear someone speaking to you or sirens. There is also a button that allow external noise in.


twoblacklines

1,575 posts

160 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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swisstoni said:
I don't know many recording studios with an engine in the corner.
Oh you mean rooms with about £3million spent on them? Did you not read what I wrote?

battered

4,088 posts

146 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Troubleatmill said:
How do you hear things you need to...?
Like Fire engine sirens, ambulances, police cars, other cars etc alerting you to where they are
It's not 100%. Just like sunglasses don't stop you seeing traffic.

twoblacklines

1,575 posts

160 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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InductionRoar said:
I seriously don't see how a car is a superior environment for hi-fi than a room. Surely the of owners of these bespoke rooms with million pound setups could have saved themselves a packet and just specced an Audi with a £10k hi-fi option?

Home = Hi-fi
Car = Exhaust/Induction

Two completely separate but equally enjoyable experiences.
Why don't you compare rooms with £10k spent on them and cars with £10k spent on them. Better comparison than comparing a £3million room to a £10k car, no?

You are like a vegan SJW who comes out with lines such as "who cares about a weeds feelings compared to killing and eating a puppy"

InductionRoar

2,001 posts

131 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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twoblacklines said:
InductionRoar said:
I seriously don't see how a car is a superior environment for hi-fi than a room. Surely the of owners of these bespoke rooms with million pound setups could have saved themselves a packet and just specced an Audi with a £10k hi-fi option?

Home = Hi-fi
Car = Exhaust/Induction

Two completely separate but equally enjoyable experiences.
Why don't you compare rooms with £10k spent on them and cars with £10k spent on them. Better comparison than comparing a £3million room to a £10k car, no?

You are like a vegan SJW who comes out with lines such as "who cares about a weeds feelings compared to killing and eating a puppy"
I wasn't comparing them if you read my post properly. I was saying that the people who are really into their hi-fi have purpose designed rooms and spend hundreds of thousands on their systems. If car hi-fis (I'm still unsure if you are suggesting it is the system itself, the acoustics or the combination of both which is superior) really were better then I'm they would have built a car shaped room and fitted a car hi-fi but for some unfathomable reason they don't. Do they?

Is it not fairly well accepted that vinyl is the best media for sound in any event which I would have thought would exclude cars from the equation?

I don't get your analogy but it sounds ridiculous.



swisstoni

16,855 posts

278 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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twoblacklines said:
swisstoni said:
I don't know many recording studios with an engine in the corner.
Oh you mean rooms with about £3million spent on them? Did you not read what I wrote?
I'm simply saying that a car is a terrible starting point as a place to listen to music.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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swisstoni said:
twoblacklines said:
swisstoni said:
I don't know many recording studios with an engine in the corner.
Oh you mean rooms with about £3million spent on them? Did you not read what I wrote?
I'm simply saying that a car is a terrible starting point as a place to listen to music.
It is a bloody awful place to start, and all of the available speaker positions are far from optimal too. A rudimentary understanding of how sound and ears work can tell you that.

The only way you'd think that even the very best in car audio was better than what you can get at home is if you've never heard any remotely decent home hi-fi kit. An no, Bose kit very much does not count as decent however much you spent on it wink

traffman

2,263 posts

208 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Theres an option on the New Range Rover Velar. 23 Speakers! Its a Meridian system. We have a Meridian system in our Evoque . Sounds epic.

I have fitted a Nakamichi Cd400 Cd player in my Honda civic . 130 quid off ebay. Sounds nearly as good as the Meridian system.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Its all relative, really.

Having a porka fitted with a 4k ice system is a drop in the ocean compared to high end home entertainment, lighting and security systems.

The price of those spec'd up is truly eye watering but not so much for the wealthy.

lord trumpton

7,321 posts

125 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Jeez - I'm usually happy with the standard fit systems and would never pay a bean to upgrade

As long as I can hear radio 4 boxedin

crazy about cars

4,454 posts

168 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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I have Burmeister in my Merc and have to have it sounds pretty good across all ranges. Not really sure how much it cost as I didn't pay for the option (got car 2nd hand).
I spend loads of time in the car and sound system is always top of my list.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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tuffer said:
Just wondering, people seem happy to pay £4,000 or more for a stereo in their car but probably have a system in their house costing far less than that. I am sure there are plenty of people who also have very expensive home setups. To be fair if I was speccing up a new car I would probably go for it and yet I have a bunch of Sonos speakers at home and am more than happy with the results. I know we spend a lot of time in our cars but it really does seem to e a bit of a rip off.
Not really. Acoustics in houses can be dire, in a car its sometimes easier to control.

andyastrasri

166 posts

97 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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More amusingly, I bet they pay for the upgraded stereo and then play mp3's through it.........................

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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dme123 said:
It is a bloody awful place to start, and all of the available speaker positions are far from optimal too. A rudimentary understanding of how sound and ears work can tell you that.

The only way you'd think that even the very best in car audio was better than what you can get at home is if you've never heard any remotely decent home hi-fi kit. An no, Bose kit very much does not count as decent however much you spent on it wink
Why would you use standard mounts? It's not ideal but compared to some houses it has its advantages, not to mention it can be extended far more often which isn't always possible when you have children.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

122 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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I remember being in Subaru's showroom's years ago buying a car.

another salesman was having to endure some oaf, complaining loudly about the potential trade in on his impreza.

eg, why, when he had spent £3000 adding a massive council estate stereo system, had it not added £3000 in value to the car.

the answer was simple.

you have added no value sir, in fact you have devalued your car buy adding such rubbish to it.


decades ago, it was worthwhile changing radios and speakers in cars as the audio generally wasn't that good. in fact you often bought a car with no radio in and maybe just some front speakers.

now, I can't imagine why anyone would add anything to a car radio: given they are all rammed with kit now.

as for listening to stuff at home- the car is about the only place I ever get to listen to the radio properly: at home its background noise with the chaos of family life.

or maybe the average PH is sat in a sound deadened room, (just adjacent to the cigar room) listening to vinyl on their own ?

mgv8

1,631 posts

270 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Out side of the question is audio quility, I do find it intresting that some extras are "must have" and "you will not sell the car with out them". I don't know if the £4K audio option is there. How much of the £4k do you get back when selling?

Krikkit

26,500 posts

180 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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swisstoni said:
twoblacklines said:
swisstoni said:
I don't know many recording studios with an engine in the corner.
Oh you mean rooms with about £3million spent on them? Did you not read what I wrote?
I'm simply saying that a car is a terrible starting point as a place to listen to music.
Agreed - dreadful place to start, no matter how clever the system (although they do get good results because, as noted, the config of the space is almost identical for every car).

Spend £4-5k on home hifi and do a bit of room prep (i.e. remove most of the furniture etc) and you'll have a much better place to listen to music.


dave1409

218 posts

177 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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You could always try to find a 1970s Unipart Radio/cassette player paperbag


kingston12

5,473 posts

156 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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It depends how you spend the £4k. Tick a few of the entertainment options on a relatively high end car purchase and you are probably getting there already because it is all so premium-priced.

Spending £4k on an aftermarket system should buy something very special indeed, and certainly something more than I would consider necessary in a car.

My car came with a factory fit Bose system, and I think it produces quite a good sound for the environment it is in. Nothing like listening at home, but it still has it's uses.

I can only listen to music relatively loud at home when the neighbours are out, in my car I can do it whenever I am outside of a built-up area.