Is WAZE the way forward

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Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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skip_1 said:
Zod said:
928 said:
It is OK, although I notice it has started to show adverts when stopped, even just for a few seconds at junctions, which I find distracting. Rural routing leaves something to be desired, seeming not to differentiate between single track lanes and two lane roads.

Speed disappears when the over-speed warning shows, I'd rather know I'm doing 32/35 and the limit rather than re-checking speedo.
Really? It was showing my true speeds this weekend, even when they were +50%.
It only shows the warning and not your speed at the level set in the settings i.e. none, 10%, 20% etc.
Nope. Mine shows my actual speed next to the limit, so in the hypothetical scenario that I were to be driving at 92 in a 60, it would show 92 larger and to the top right of 60.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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C70R said:
TheInternet said:
DSGbangs said:
I loved waze, until i realised anyone with your phone number and the app can pretty much stalk you, other than that, it's brilliant.
smile
Do go on....
I'm a long-time Waze user, and I'm not sure I've ever seen this feature. Unless I add people as a "Friend", then I don't give them permission to see my drive...
"add" someone as a friend using there phone number, then tap on there 'profile' and look where they are right now. And also the routes they have taken in the last 7 days, all of this before they have accepted or blocked you, brilliant stalker tool.

Please note this is on android.

Hackney

6,841 posts

208 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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thetapeworm said:
....It's evolving nicely but in my experience Google Maps & Navigation with some Waze features added would pretty much cover it all, I don't understand why they continue to run the two products separately but clearly pull a lot of the Waze community efforts (car parking for example) into Google.

At the moment they seem to be using the Waze user base as free labour to make Google Maps better.
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it probably suits them to keep the two "brands" separate so Waze keeps that community feel and people feel happier sharing information with them. Some may be put off by the corporate monolith / tax dodger that is good old google.

C70R

17,596 posts

104 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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Zod said:
skip_1 said:
Zod said:
928 said:
It is OK, although I notice it has started to show adverts when stopped, even just for a few seconds at junctions, which I find distracting. Rural routing leaves something to be desired, seeming not to differentiate between single track lanes and two lane roads.

Speed disappears when the over-speed warning shows, I'd rather know I'm doing 32/35 and the limit rather than re-checking speedo.
Really? It was showing my true speeds this weekend, even when they were +50%.
It only shows the warning and not your speed at the level set in the settings i.e. none, 10%, 20% etc.
Nope. Mine shows my actual speed next to the limit, so in the hypothetical scenario that I were to be driving at 92 in a 60, it would show 92 larger and to the top right of 60.
Agreed, although it might be an Apple/Android feature...

C70R

17,596 posts

104 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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DSGbangs said:
C70R said:
TheInternet said:
DSGbangs said:
I loved waze, until i realised anyone with your phone number and the app can pretty much stalk you, other than that, it's brilliant.
smile
Do go on....
I'm a long-time Waze user, and I'm not sure I've ever seen this feature. Unless I add people as a "Friend", then I don't give them permission to see my drive...
"add" someone as a friend using there phone number, then tap on there 'profile' and look where they are right now. And also the routes they have taken in the last 7 days, all of this before they have accepted or blocked you, brilliant stalker tool.

Please note this is on android.
Just tried this on my Android, and can't see where I'm looking for that info...

gazapc

1,321 posts

160 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Been using waze a few months now. Mainly for the camera warnings. Generally find the warnings accurate, only had one camera van in bristol that I drove past that wasn't flagged yet, but it was 830 on a Sunday morning so not many users about. Generally on motorways has been bang on including warnings of stopped vehicles etc...

It has a few quirks. Looking at or choosing alternative routes is painful. Much prefer Google for this including the route options that appear whie you are driving. The search function for non-addresses (e.g. McDonald's Swindon) sometimes acts up. I'd love to have an average speed counter in SPEC zones.

Overall if they could merge Google maps and waze I'd be very happy.

Actual

746 posts

106 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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I use Google Maps and Waze together at the same time by having 2 Android phones in cradles. I also overlay the free Android TomTom Speed Cameras on top of Google Maps.

The critical aspect for maintaining the speed camera database is user participation so it is vital that an app has a large and active user base. Waze sees to have a large number of enthusiastic users hence even giving warnings for "vehicle stopped on shoulder". TomTom Speed Cameras has great functionality including reporting your average speed in average speed zones but there is no way to know how many active users are contributing to the speed camera alerts. There are other less well known apps which may have great functionality but being less well known is their achilles heel.

TomTom Speed Cameras which is Android only has a great feature which allows it to run as a floating app over the top of anything else running on the screen so that you can use Google Maps and TomTom together.

My biggest problem with Waze is trying to see the overall route ahead. I can try to zoom the map out (by out-pinching the touchscreen) but I can't prevent the map pivoting and causing north to rotate around the screen which gets really confusing.


Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Actual said:
I use Google Maps and Waze together at the same time by having 2 Android phones in cradles. I also overlay the free Android TomTom Speed Cameras on top of Google Maps.

The critical aspect for maintaining the speed camera database is user participation so it is vital that an app has a large and active user base. Waze sees to have a large number of enthusiastic users hence even giving warnings for "vehicle stopped on shoulder". TomTom Speed Cameras has great functionality including reporting your average speed in average speed zones but there is no way to know how many active users are contributing to the speed camera alerts. There are other less well known apps which may have great functionality but being less well known is their achilles heel.

TomTom Speed Cameras which is Android only has a great feature which allows it to run as a floating app over the top of anything else running on the screen so that you can use Google Maps and TomTom together.

My biggest problem with Waze is trying to see the overall route ahead. I can try to zoom the map out (by out-pinching the touchscreen) but I can't prevent the map pivoting and causing north to rotate around the screen which gets really confusing.
You wear a belt and braces, don't you? hehe

plenty

4,685 posts

186 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Zod said:
Actual said:
I use Google Maps and Waze together at the same time by having 2 Android phones in cradles. I also overlay the free Android TomTom Speed Cameras on top of Google Maps.

The critical aspect for maintaining the speed camera database is user participation so it is vital that an app has a large and active user base. Waze sees to have a large number of enthusiastic users hence even giving warnings for "vehicle stopped on shoulder". TomTom Speed Cameras has great functionality including reporting your average speed in average speed zones but there is no way to know how many active users are contributing to the speed camera alerts. There are other less well known apps which may have great functionality but being less well known is their achilles heel.

TomTom Speed Cameras which is Android only has a great feature which allows it to run as a floating app over the top of anything else running on the screen so that you can use Google Maps and TomTom together.

My biggest problem with Waze is trying to see the overall route ahead. I can try to zoom the map out (by out-pinching the touchscreen) but I can't prevent the map pivoting and causing north to rotate around the screen which gets really confusing.
You wear a belt and braces, don't you? hehe
I believe the critical point is the one in bold above (my bolding).

Most people I'm guessing use a satnav device exclusively to help them get from A to B by asking the device to choose a route.

Personally, and with approximate importance weightings attached, I use a satnav to:

50% allow me to plan and pre-programme routes in advance
30% allow me to see the road ahead (particularly useful if you drive a low-slung car) - adds massive confidence when "making progress"
10% speed camera warnings
10% help me get from A to B by asking the device to choose a route

I couldn't live without my 9 year old TomTom device, which has yet to be surpassed as a repository of pre-programmed routes and an aid to seeing the road ahead...driving without it feels very strange even on the shortest and most familiar journeys. However, it has no traffic function and the speed camera capability is rudimentary, hence I believe the combo of old TomTom + Waze is the way forward.

smashy

3,036 posts

158 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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I would say pocket gps subscription if you really want total belt and braces camera alerts when I go to cornwall from London I dont hang about on that A30 plenty of false warnings where mobiles HAVE been in the past ,ill live with that .you can overlay that on waze if you want.

Waze is great for when I start my journeys in west london it will hunt out the 5 or 6 ways I may use and find the quickest time far better than my Tom Tom £300 unit for doing that

rxe

6,700 posts

103 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Waze has saved my bacon twice on mobile speed camera sites, and I don't know of any other app that can do that reasonably reliably.

You don't need to report traffic - if several users are doing 5 mph on the M4, it knows the traffic is bad.

Having been saved several times, I take great delight in reporting speed camera vans.

The only downside for me is the sometimes over-aggressive rat running in London. Would I prefer to sit in a jam for 5 minutes, or spend 4 minutes 50 seconds hammering over speed bumps in narrow streets.

motco

15,953 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I was using it in Devon yesterday and found it to be a bit flaky. It stopped a few times due variously, I assume, to poor network coverage and occasional dense overhead foliage obscuring the satellites.

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

154 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Much prefer Google Maps myself.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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plenty said:
I believe the critical point is the one in bold above (my bolding).

Most people I'm guessing use a satnav device exclusively to help them get from A to B by asking the device to choose a route.

Personally, and with approximate importance weightings attached, I use a satnav to:

50% allow me to plan and pre-programme routes in advance
30% allow me to see the road ahead (particularly useful if you drive a low-slung car) - adds massive confidence when "making progress"
10% speed camera warnings
10% help me get from A to B by asking the device to choose a route

I couldn't live without my 9 year old TomTom device, which has yet to be surpassed as a repository of pre-programmed routes and an aid to seeing the road ahead...driving without it feels very strange even on the shortest and most familiar journeys. However, it has no traffic function and the speed camera capability is rudimentary, hence I believe the combo of old TomTom + Waze is the way forward.
I use car sat nav (with volume off) plus Waze for that purpose.

TheInternet

4,716 posts

163 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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rxe said:
Waze has saved my bacon twice on mobile speed camera sites, and I don't know of any other app that can do that reasonably reliably.
Do I need to do anything particular to get mobile speed camera warnings in Waze? I get static ones reported at the moment.

thetapeworm

11,225 posts

239 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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TheInternet said:
rxe said:
Waze has saved my bacon twice on mobile speed camera sites, and I don't know of any other app that can do that reasonably reliably.
Do I need to do anything particular to get mobile speed camera warnings in Waze? I get static ones reported at the moment.
You just need fellow Waze users in the area reporting the cameras, then it should just warn you if it's on your route.

sadsac

33 posts

120 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Have tried Waze but I find Google maps with the Tom Tom speed camera overlay brilliant

S6PNJ

5,182 posts

281 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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sadsac said:
Have tried Waze but I find Google maps with the Tom Tom speed camera overlay brilliant
I'm not sure if it has already been said but Google bought Waze a while ago, so it is likely that the underlying data/maps is shared or the same.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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I just want an app that aggressively and constantly recalculates the fastest route home from work avoiding the traffic.

Im in a fortunate position of having a rats nest of routes home to choose from, and find google maps doesn't do a calc on every single possible route, or do it as often as i would like and find myself sitting in traffic like an idiot far too often.


gmaz

4,398 posts

210 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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SystemParanoia said:
I just want an app that aggressively and constantly recalculates the fastest route home from work avoiding the traffic.

Im in a fortunate position of having a rats nest of routes home to choose from, and find google maps doesn't do a calc on every single possible route, or do it as often as i would like and find myself sitting in traffic like an idiot far too often.
I find Waze can be too aggressive sometimes, leading me down loads of back streets in order to save 2 minutes on a main road route. A back street may have a 30mph limit, but waze doesn't consider traffic calming, parked cars, overtaking bicycles.etc