Any Skoda Rapid Owners 1.2 TSI 110 Bhp - opinions
Discussion
After a bit of owner experience if anyone cares to help out please
Looking at a new daily for Mrs BC (her Merc SLK is gonna need some welding soon and my rule is no daily gets welded - or rather if it needs welding it's not gonna be a daily any more) so need a white goods option (previously she's had a succession of Polos from MK2 Coupe S through 6N's to her last one a 6N2 1.6 GTi but she fancied a SLK so it got sold and replaced with the SLK. We've had it for 6 years and it's been pretty much perfect/fault free apart from rust issues and she's become a bit attached to it.
So budget was £10K to get her into 2015 - 2017 age range with "not been to the moon and back" mileage although her car does about 6-7K per year so higher miles wouldn't be a huge issue
Started looking at Fabia wagons (cos the normal hatch looks a bit meh so was trying to steer her towards the wagon version) but the "monte carlo" interior trim on the nicest looking estate is just a bit too in your face for Mrs BC and she say no (actually she said f
k No and so I look at SE L model with the 110 bhp because that gets the 6 speed box and well they don't really float my boat - to be honest the monte carlo interior trim I'm not sure i could live with either so probably for the best........
Then I started looking at Rapid Sportback models and the SE Sport trim I like and it's well equiped and priced compared to the Fabia same 1.2 TSI engine with the six spped box - the interior Mrs BC will be fine with (it doesn't look like an estate) and I'm thinking what's the drawback.........
Read a bunch of reviews on loads of sites and they all differ on key points
Is it noisy (wind noise at M-way speeds) so say yes some say no
Is the 1.2 TSI engine happy to row it along or is it underpowered?
Any reliability issues with the 1.2 TSI engines
Do you get condensation overnight on the Pano roof which they all have and was keen to avoid on the monte carlo
Whats a real world mpg round town and on a run
Any other points I need to think about (see note)
Note - At least no one in here is gonna point and say "ha ha skoda" - no-one does that any more do they???
Looking at a new daily for Mrs BC (her Merc SLK is gonna need some welding soon and my rule is no daily gets welded - or rather if it needs welding it's not gonna be a daily any more) so need a white goods option (previously she's had a succession of Polos from MK2 Coupe S through 6N's to her last one a 6N2 1.6 GTi but she fancied a SLK so it got sold and replaced with the SLK. We've had it for 6 years and it's been pretty much perfect/fault free apart from rust issues and she's become a bit attached to it.
So budget was £10K to get her into 2015 - 2017 age range with "not been to the moon and back" mileage although her car does about 6-7K per year so higher miles wouldn't be a huge issue
Started looking at Fabia wagons (cos the normal hatch looks a bit meh so was trying to steer her towards the wagon version) but the "monte carlo" interior trim on the nicest looking estate is just a bit too in your face for Mrs BC and she say no (actually she said f
k No and so I look at SE L model with the 110 bhp because that gets the 6 speed box and well they don't really float my boat - to be honest the monte carlo interior trim I'm not sure i could live with either so probably for the best........Then I started looking at Rapid Sportback models and the SE Sport trim I like and it's well equiped and priced compared to the Fabia same 1.2 TSI engine with the six spped box - the interior Mrs BC will be fine with (it doesn't look like an estate) and I'm thinking what's the drawback.........
Read a bunch of reviews on loads of sites and they all differ on key points
Is it noisy (wind noise at M-way speeds) so say yes some say no
Is the 1.2 TSI engine happy to row it along or is it underpowered?
Any reliability issues with the 1.2 TSI engines
Do you get condensation overnight on the Pano roof which they all have and was keen to avoid on the monte carlo
Whats a real world mpg round town and on a run
Any other points I need to think about (see note)
Note - At least no one in here is gonna point and say "ha ha skoda" - no-one does that any more do they???
My wife has had 2 se sports, 1st was written off.
It's a good car, no wind noise or condensation on the glass roof.
Averages 40-50 mpg. It's not quick but does well enough in traffic and on motorways, overtaking can sometimes require a bit of planning ahead.
Feels quite light to drive, no heavy controls.
Seem to have more boot and rear legroom than equivalent golf, focus etc.
Stick with 65 reg onwards as they had an update inside (nicer seats) and better tech pack/nav etc.
It's a good car, no wind noise or condensation on the glass roof.
Averages 40-50 mpg. It's not quick but does well enough in traffic and on motorways, overtaking can sometimes require a bit of planning ahead.
Feels quite light to drive, no heavy controls.
Seem to have more boot and rear legroom than equivalent golf, focus etc.
Stick with 65 reg onwards as they had an update inside (nicer seats) and better tech pack/nav etc.
We have a 1.2TSi DSG Yeti. The fuel economy is pretty poor (low 30s) but realistically it’s hauling round a fairly heavy brick shaped car. Otherwise it’s good. It’s not quick, but it will keep up on motorways quite happily.
We got if for £115 a month (SE-L spec) so can’t fault it really.
We got if for £115 a month (SE-L spec) so can’t fault it really.
Cjr32blue said:
My wife has had 2 se sports, 1st was written off.
It's a good car, no wind noise or condensation on the glass roof.
Averages 40-50 mpg. It's not quick but does well enough in traffic and on motorways, overtaking can sometimes require a bit of planning ahead.
Feels quite light to drive, no heavy controls.
Seem to have more boot and rear legroom than equivalent golf, focus etc.
Stick with 65 reg onwards as they had an update inside (nicer seats) and better tech pack/nav etc.
Thanks for the feedback esp re 65 reg on - re condensation on glass roof any daily for Mrs BC lives outside in all weathers hence the concern for the issue of condensation if Mrs Cjr32blue's car lives outside then I'll have no concernsIt's a good car, no wind noise or condensation on the glass roof.
Averages 40-50 mpg. It's not quick but does well enough in traffic and on motorways, overtaking can sometimes require a bit of planning ahead.
Feels quite light to drive, no heavy controls.
Seem to have more boot and rear legroom than equivalent golf, focus etc.
Stick with 65 reg onwards as they had an update inside (nicer seats) and better tech pack/nav etc.
miniman said:
We have a 1.2TSi DSG Yeti. The fuel economy is pretty poor (low 30s) but realistically it’s hauling round a fairly heavy brick shaped car. Otherwise it’s good. It’s not quick, but it will keep up on motorways quite happily.
We got if for £115 a month (SE-L spec) so can’t fault it really.
I did look at Yeti but ruled them out as I know she won't get on with the boxy shapeWe got if for £115 a month (SE-L spec) so can’t fault it really.
I also ruled out DSG just on personal preference - the SLK is a 6 speed manual so going back to a 5 speed will result in going for a gear that is no longer there
Well I've driven another one today (that stands out as being way better than the others) so thought I'd chuck my thoughts down.
It's 23K miles 65 Plate Sept 15 registered with 3 Services (Skoda Dealership) done every 12 mths like clockwork and under the 12,000 mile max interval
6 speed box is light but still feels positive for a linkage system (never expected it to be like the SLK or Lotus where there is a much more direct connection) but gear slotted in easily and neatly certainly I nicer feel than the 150,000 mile Polo GTi she had before the SLK
First car with stop start so that might take a bit of getting used to (will research deactivation if it gets on my nerves)
Engine feels punchy in the mid range, smooth across the whole rev range although by 5200 rpm it's over and done with power wise but it makes up for that with a nice wodge of torque in the low to mid range
I know going from 200 bhp to 110 is going to be noticeable but it's only the same when I get out of the 740 or Lotus and into the SLK find I am either 100 or 200 bhp missing so I'm kinda used to that feeling
I thought the ride was excellent exactly what I was looking for not stiffly sprung and over damped but slightly wafty and a little under damped (SE Sport option runs on 17 inch rims and low profile tyres compared to the other models which run on 15's or 16's and higher profile tyres) which considering the state of the UK roads I'll take that with bells on
Wind noise was very absent apart from a little from the door mirror area.
Std kit takes some beating, Sat nav, trip comp, auto lights, phone connectivity and DAB radio is a surprising amount of kit and whilst I didn't want a pan roof it actually made the cabin bright considering the dark grey quilted cloth
I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the cabin - hard plastics seem to get mentioned in every test/review but it's a more than acceptable place to be up front - the seats are comfortable and supportive and not being leather there is minimal side to side slide
Rear leg room (rarely used) was good even with front seat back to accommodate a long legged 6 ft driver
The boot space gets mentioned in tests as being good compared to Golf, Focus and Kia but reduced compared to the older hatch with a boot but it's fine for what we need and fold down rear seats means it can cope with the odd longer/bigger load
The dealership was happy to get it up in the air for a look underneath - the mechanic who put it up on a two post said it was only the second time in 15 years he'd ever been asked to do that - maybe I'm odd
I looked very straight underneath some tar spots need to be removed from sills, but the suspension and brackets underneath still had paint on them always a good sign - the exhaust looks like a mild steel one as opposed to the stainless steel OE stuff I've been used to on BMW and Mercedes (that lasts the lifetime of the car).
Before I went to see it I asked the salesman to check a few things (part of my honesty assesment) and he did point out there was a couple of very minor marks on one wheel rim but the other three were totally spotless and he was exactly 100% accurate on all the questions responded to which is nice when you've driven an hour and half to see the car.
The front tyres whilst 4mm in centre so 50% worn aren't 50% at the edges so they need changing and it's missing a set of interior mats so that's what I've asked to be done prior to collection
Mrs BC likes black cars so I've put a deposit on the car and provided they replace the front two tyres with OE fitment Bridgestones rather than "budget" ones I've agreed to contribute towards that and I expect them to put a set of rubber mats in the car I'll pay the full sticker price......
This is Pistonheads I know and no-one ever pays full price but the car is inside budget spot on mileage requirement and age and not in Yorkshire and I'd rather get the car than piss about trying to knock a few quid of the price or spend ages trying to find one cheaper
It's 23K miles 65 Plate Sept 15 registered with 3 Services (Skoda Dealership) done every 12 mths like clockwork and under the 12,000 mile max interval
6 speed box is light but still feels positive for a linkage system (never expected it to be like the SLK or Lotus where there is a much more direct connection) but gear slotted in easily and neatly certainly I nicer feel than the 150,000 mile Polo GTi she had before the SLK
First car with stop start so that might take a bit of getting used to (will research deactivation if it gets on my nerves)
Engine feels punchy in the mid range, smooth across the whole rev range although by 5200 rpm it's over and done with power wise but it makes up for that with a nice wodge of torque in the low to mid range
I know going from 200 bhp to 110 is going to be noticeable but it's only the same when I get out of the 740 or Lotus and into the SLK find I am either 100 or 200 bhp missing so I'm kinda used to that feeling
I thought the ride was excellent exactly what I was looking for not stiffly sprung and over damped but slightly wafty and a little under damped (SE Sport option runs on 17 inch rims and low profile tyres compared to the other models which run on 15's or 16's and higher profile tyres) which considering the state of the UK roads I'll take that with bells on
Wind noise was very absent apart from a little from the door mirror area.
Std kit takes some beating, Sat nav, trip comp, auto lights, phone connectivity and DAB radio is a surprising amount of kit and whilst I didn't want a pan roof it actually made the cabin bright considering the dark grey quilted cloth
I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the cabin - hard plastics seem to get mentioned in every test/review but it's a more than acceptable place to be up front - the seats are comfortable and supportive and not being leather there is minimal side to side slide
Rear leg room (rarely used) was good even with front seat back to accommodate a long legged 6 ft driver
The boot space gets mentioned in tests as being good compared to Golf, Focus and Kia but reduced compared to the older hatch with a boot but it's fine for what we need and fold down rear seats means it can cope with the odd longer/bigger load
The dealership was happy to get it up in the air for a look underneath - the mechanic who put it up on a two post said it was only the second time in 15 years he'd ever been asked to do that - maybe I'm odd
I looked very straight underneath some tar spots need to be removed from sills, but the suspension and brackets underneath still had paint on them always a good sign - the exhaust looks like a mild steel one as opposed to the stainless steel OE stuff I've been used to on BMW and Mercedes (that lasts the lifetime of the car).
Before I went to see it I asked the salesman to check a few things (part of my honesty assesment) and he did point out there was a couple of very minor marks on one wheel rim but the other three were totally spotless and he was exactly 100% accurate on all the questions responded to which is nice when you've driven an hour and half to see the car.
The front tyres whilst 4mm in centre so 50% worn aren't 50% at the edges so they need changing and it's missing a set of interior mats so that's what I've asked to be done prior to collection
Mrs BC likes black cars so I've put a deposit on the car and provided they replace the front two tyres with OE fitment Bridgestones rather than "budget" ones I've agreed to contribute towards that and I expect them to put a set of rubber mats in the car I'll pay the full sticker price......
This is Pistonheads I know and no-one ever pays full price but the car is inside budget spot on mileage requirement and age and not in Yorkshire and I'd rather get the car than piss about trying to knock a few quid of the price or spend ages trying to find one cheaper
Edited by B'stard Child on Friday 11th January 18:02
have to be a hatch?
look at a Toledo.
we use a stack of them as taxis cant fault them in either 1.0 tsi or 1.4/1.6 tdi
you'll get a pre reg tech pack pre reg for 12 grand with delivery miles
just an example
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
look at a Toledo.
we use a stack of them as taxis cant fault them in either 1.0 tsi or 1.4/1.6 tdi
you'll get a pre reg tech pack pre reg for 12 grand with delivery miles
just an example
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Amusing myself
7 mile commute from cold in the morning and the trip computer declares trip averaged 45.2 mpg
7 mile commute from cold in the evening and the trip computer declares trip average at 49.7 mpg
The commute is a mix of 30mph limits with light traffic a section of dual carriageway with a round about at each end and always a level of backed up traffic then another short stretch of dual carriageway before I peel off for a B road then a farm track at 20 mph to drop off Mrs BC followed by another short section of dual carriageway a roundabout and then a run round an industrial estate to my works car park
Just driving normally and keeping pace with all the traffic I am astounded - I'm still running on the fuel supplied with the car but at the weekend we have a 200 mile round trip to do and I'll brim fill the tank and see how much the trip computer tells the truth.....
7 mile commute from cold in the morning and the trip computer declares trip averaged 45.2 mpg
7 mile commute from cold in the evening and the trip computer declares trip average at 49.7 mpg
The commute is a mix of 30mph limits with light traffic a section of dual carriageway with a round about at each end and always a level of backed up traffic then another short stretch of dual carriageway before I peel off for a B road then a farm track at 20 mph to drop off Mrs BC followed by another short section of dual carriageway a roundabout and then a run round an industrial estate to my works car park
Just driving normally and keeping pace with all the traffic I am astounded - I'm still running on the fuel supplied with the car but at the weekend we have a 200 mile round trip to do and I'll brim fill the tank and see how much the trip computer tells the truth.....
Well 13 more days with this and then it's gone
I loved it - a real economobile - it's returned 46 mpg over 7000 miles - and it keeps up with traffic very nicely
However the whining from the passenger side is just too much to bear and I like a quiet life
Found a nice BMW 125i Coupe with sensible miles, 1 owner and FSH and chopping the Skud Missile in against that
I've been looking for a 135i Coupe but every "really nice example" has been a fking dog with pretty paint and knacker interior so gave up and went NA instead
Next step finding a re map that gets it to 130i levels as after the test drive I can confirm it's silky smooth but flat as fk after 5000 rpm
I loved it - a real economobile - it's returned 46 mpg over 7000 miles - and it keeps up with traffic very nicely
However the whining from the passenger side is just too much to bear and I like a quiet life
Found a nice BMW 125i Coupe with sensible miles, 1 owner and FSH and chopping the Skud Missile in against that
I've been looking for a 135i Coupe but every "really nice example" has been a f
king dog with pretty paint and knacker interior so gave up and went NA insteadNext step finding a re map that gets it to 130i levels as after the test drive I can confirm it's silky smooth but flat as f
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