Car Mini Disc with MDLP capability....?

Car Mini Disc with MDLP capability....?

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Paul S4

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1,183 posts

210 months

Monday 22nd February 2021
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Car Mini Disc with MDLP capability....

A pal has asked me about this...I do not really know what the term MDLP means, but apparently he has this system at home and would like to play the Mini discs in his car... which incidentally is an old Capri 3L.

If anyone has any knowledge about this, or indeed has one of these units for a car, any help would be welcome !



Jasey_

4,851 posts

178 months

Monday 22nd February 2021
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20 years out of date technology.

Mdlp is mini disc long play.

Looks like you can get car players on ebay.

Edited by Jasey_ on Monday 22 February 21:05

OverSteery

3,607 posts

231 months

Monday 22nd February 2021
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3 litre capri - should be an 8 track surely?

Paul S4

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1,183 posts

210 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Thanks for the replies.

Yes... I have told him that it is quite old technology and that it did not really take off, but he has music on it at home so I guess he would like it in the car !

And an 8 track would be much more apt !!

Jasey_

4,851 posts

178 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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If he has a portable mini disc player he could probably get a FM transmitter thing or a cassette player output thingy.

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Qumox-Audio-Cassette-iP...


944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Any MDLP player will display the MDLP logo n the front. Long play isnt great: LP2 can be alright but LP4 sucks.

944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Paul S4 said:
I have told him that it is quite old technology and that it did not really take off
Sorry Paul but this is nonsense.

Paul S4

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1,183 posts

210 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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I am all ears...but it came out quite a while ago and if IIRC it was not widely adapted, especially in the automotive world, apart from maybe Japan ?

944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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You know how history is written by the victors? It appears that MD history is written by Americans. It was expensive there and not widely adopted: they continued to buy cassette and CD Walkmans. As a result it is common to hear that MiniDisc 'failed' and this appears to have become the accepted wisdom, but it is completely inaccurate.

MiniDisc devices were in full production for twenty years. You can still buy a new Teac MD/CD recording deck in Japan and Sony still manufactures MiniDisc media.

Rights holders were too greedy and MD was too dear and by the time that prices dropped (and 1GB HiMD was launched), other formats had gained far too great a market share. This doesnt mean that it didnt succeed, but it certainly didnt succeed to the degree that it could have. This is very different to having failed though and plenty of cars came with MD players. Porsche, BMW, Mini, Volvo and Mazda that I am personally familiar with.

MD SP, particularly ATRAC Type-R and Type-S, is noticeably better than MP3. What could have been, eh?

944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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2006 OEM:


944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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mmm-five

11,236 posts

284 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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My mate has an MD player in his CSL - never used it though - just keeps it in there for originality.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Mildly on topic- to me MiniDisc was the absolute peak of portable music.

Great sound quality, and just enough storage space to make you think about what you were putting on each disc and really curate the playlists but still have a load of tracks. Great for swapping between friends too.

I had the MZ-N10 player (pride and joy), till I left it on a bench, pissed...

Whilst I have so much more content nowadays thanks to Spotify, I think the variety makes it harder to truely discover and get into a band, it's easier to just be overwhelmed and listen to the same old stuff or have the new content "curated" for you.

sjg

7,450 posts

265 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Blast from the past - I used to spend a bit of time keeping the car stuff on minidisc.org up to date.

It's still there if you want to find some likely model numbers to stick in ebay: http://minidisc.org/car_table.html

untakenname

4,965 posts

192 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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I just ripped out threw away the minidisc player internals from a 2008 RX8 frown AFAIK you could spec them in Mazda's till 2013.

Your friend is probably best off converting them to MP3 https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/support/downloa...


944 Man said:
You know how history is written by the victors? It appears that MD history is written by Americans. It was expensive there and not widely adopted: they continued to buy cassette and CD Walkmans. As a result it is common to hear that MiniDisc 'failed' and this appears to have become the accepted wisdom, but it is completely inaccurate.

MiniDisc devices were in full production for twenty years. You can still buy a new Teac MD/CD recording deck in Japan and Sony still manufactures MiniDisc media.

Rights holders were too greedy and MD was too dear and by the time that prices dropped (and 1GB HiMD was launched), other formats had gained far too great a market share. This doesnt mean that it didnt succeed, but it certainly didnt succeed to the degree that it could have. This is very different to having failed though and plenty of cars came with MD players. Porsche, BMW, Mini, Volvo and Mazda that I am personally familiar with.

MD SP, particularly ATRAC Type-R and Type-S, is noticeably better than MP3. What could have been, eh?
The minidisc player was a flop, it sold a fraction of what portable CD or cassette players sold (probably fitted to less than 1% of cars world wide from 92-02) ontop of that the ipod came out less than a decade after launch and stopped it in it's tracks.

The minidisc format may have had decent sound quality when it was launched compared to low bitrate MP3's but I doubt anyone in the real world would be able to tell the difference between a 320kbps MP3 vs 352kbps ATRAC3 and if they can then they will be using FLAC anyways.





sjg

7,450 posts

265 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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It was always a niche thing really. I liked that it was recordable like tapes, but better quality and with track index - plus more portable , robust and skip-proof than CD.

There was a bit of a perfect storm of recordable CD tech, the explosion of MP3 sharing and smaller MP3 players that put it in terminal decline by the mid 00s. I even got one of the later NetMD recorders that would (painfully slowly) transfer music from your computer to MD (via a intermediate fake CD step, because of Sony's nonsense copyright rules) but really it was over by then. Once the iPod worked with Windows (2003?) I stopped bothering.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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sjg said:
It was always a niche thing really. I liked that it was recordable like tapes, but better quality and with track index - plus more portable , robust and skip-proof than CD.

There was a bit of a perfect storm of recordable CD tech, the explosion of MP3 sharing and smaller MP3 players that put it in terminal decline by the mid 00s. I even got one of the later NetMD recorders that would (painfully slowly) transfer music from your computer to MD (via a intermediate fake CD step, because of Sony's nonsense copyright rules) but really it was over by then. Once the iPod worked with Windows (2003?) I stopped bothering.
FFS: NetMD. I think I bought a new PC to see if that would make it work any better, it didn't.

I'm surprised that the control stick concept never made it to Mp3 players or phones. They were a revelation.

944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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“It was a flop”

No, it wasn’t.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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944 Man said:
“It was a flop”

No, it wasn’t.
More importantly. I'm guessing the end of the song titles with:

...the tubestation at midnight

And

...me now.

What do I win?

944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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biggrin