Blocked overtake on dash cam.

Blocked overtake on dash cam.

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Cyrus1971

855 posts

238 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Audi was out of order for sure, increasing risk and danger to himself, you and the oncoming stream of traffic, in the wet. Clearly a retard in need of a physics lesson and a larger dick.

To be honest I probably have and would overtake in the same way as you did but perhaps not in a diesel Mondeo. To be sure this is not a go at your motor BTW, fine cars that they are.

I do also think that with a bit less haste on your part coming off the roundabout, say just 25 feet more before beginning your overtake would have shown a "respect" (what ever that is) for the Audi driver, and your haste would not have been open an interpretation of " you are my inconvenience " in quite the same way.

Overall though if one drives one has to be tolerant of mistakes and weirdness’s on the road, regardless of rules and the highway code. Placing others in genuine danger though is not forgivable. As a test - if you were an undercover police car and he did that he would be 100% done for it I think.

Cyrus1971

855 posts

238 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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BTW OP what dash cam are you using please ? Quality is pretty good. Might get one for myself.

Jon999

Original Poster:

400 posts

147 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Cyrus1971 said:
BTW OP what dash cam are you using please ? Quality is pretty good. Might get one for myself.
DOD gs300. Think I'm going to sell it as I've had a company car for a couple of months now and it's just sat on the shelf doing nothing in its box as I'm not allowed to hard wire it into my new car and I'm not a fan of wires all over. Pm me if you want (if it's allowed on here).

Blackvue hd is another good camera as is DOD gs600 (adds gps speed overlay to mine ).

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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This thread began in March and is still going.

So, was the blocked overtake out of order then?

S. Gonzales Esq.

2,556 posts

211 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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MC Bodge said:
So, was the blocked overtake out of order then?
I'd be happy to try to summarise:

• Starting an overtake before reaching the NSL was not ideal behaviour by the OP.
• Accelerating whilst being overtaken, and moving out towards the centre line was extremely poor behaviour from the Audi driver.
• Engaging with the Audi driver afterwards was possibly the biggest error of all.

Looking at the OP's other YouTube videos, he does seem to have a habit of making basic errors whilst complaining about the actions of others.



MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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S. Gonzales Esq. said:
MC Bodge said:
So, was the blocked overtake out of order then?
I'd be happy to try to summarise:

• Starting an overtake before reaching the NSL was not ideal behaviour by the OP.
• Accelerating whilst being overtaken, and moving out towards the centre line was extremely poor behaviour from the Audi driver.
• Engaging with the Audi driver afterwards was possibly the biggest error of all.

Looking at the OP's other YouTube videos, he does seem to have a habit of making basic errors whilst complaining about the actions of others.
Thanks. I thought that this had been established months ago though.



JM

3,170 posts

205 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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S. Gonzales Esq. said:
Looking at the OP's other YouTube videos, he does seem to have a habit of making basic errors whilst complaining about the actions of others.
Also a pretty poor taste in music.




smile

Linus27

152 posts

211 months

Saturday 11th August 2012
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My view is the driver overtaking did not show enough respect to the Audi driver by not making his intentions clear and by carrying out the overtake move too quickly and with too much aggression. He had made his mind up he was going to overtake pre roundabout as he accelerates hard upon exiting the roundabout, across it and then pulls out without warning before the NSL zone. The Audi driver was not given any opportunity to increase his speed as by the time he got to the NSL he had the Mondeo pull out alongside.

The Audi driver however reacted very badly to the situation and reacted with aggression rather than acting passively and backing down.

Both drivers were at fault. The overtaking driver being too eager and inpatient, not making his intentions clear and not showing enough respect to other road users. There really was not need for the pass. The Audi driver reacted aggresivly and put both road users at risk. Two wrong's in my book.

JamesR32

541 posts

195 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Jon999 said:
I also have the part where we pulled over and had a little discussion about his antics and he insisted that he was "trying to save my life" by preventing me overtaking. Crazy.

View for yourselves anyway smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR5aummuFjw
I have to say that overtake looked totally kosher. As for his excuse, he put you in more danger by keeping you on the opposite side of the road for longer than necessary so his argument is invalid.
Typical cock Audi driver (not stereotyping of course)

Observer2

722 posts

224 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Linus27 said:
My view is the driver overtaking did not show enough respect to the Audi driver by not making his intentions clear and by carrying out the overtake move too quickly and with too much aggression. He had made his mind up he was going to overtake pre roundabout as he accelerates hard upon exiting the roundabout, across it and then pulls out without warning before the NSL zone. The Audi driver was not given any opportunity to increase his speed as by the time he got to the NSL he had the Mondeo pull out alongside.

The Audi driver however reacted very badly to the situation and reacted with aggression rather than acting passively and backing down.

Both drivers were at fault. The overtaking driver being too eager and inpatient, not making his intentions clear and not showing enough respect to other road users. There really was not need for the pass. The Audi driver reacted aggresivly and put both road users at risk. Two wrong's in my book.
+1

buymeabar

165 posts

188 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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Utter fk monkey in the Q7. I quite liked the music though, which track is it, please?

KimZ

225 posts

213 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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Efbe said:
what a complete nob that audi driver is.
+1.

Good visibility - no reason not to go for that o/t imo. Vorsprung durch tosspot!

k99

544 posts

167 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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Agreed the Q7 was wrong but we don't know what might have happened beforehand that could change the mentality of the Q7 driver and put more responsibility on the incident on the Mondeo.
Just say for instance that long before the village the Q7 was travelling at quite a pace and overtook a Sunday driver in a Mondeo. The Mondeo driver takes umbrage with the overtake, speeds up and eventually catches up the Q7 in the village.
As they exit the village the Q7 is waiting for the NSL before accelerating away. Meanwhile the Mondeo is trying to overtake him. What would you do?
Of course you should let the Mondeo overtake but if what I had described had happened beforehand - would you hand on heart do that?
All the above is hypothetical but may explain why the Q7 driver acted the way he did or why sometimes a driver may try and block your overtake. I not trying to defend his dangerous driving but sometimes people will do this if they have had their hackles raised by another driver.
Whenever I overtake cars, I always keep an eye on the car afterwards in case they have taken umbrage and want revenge.
Often happens you will get flashed for carrying out a completely safe overtake within the speed limits but others drivers don't see it that way and will try and overtake you because you have had the ordacity to pass them.

matthias73

2,883 posts

149 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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So you want to get in front of a someone, and he decides he would rather be in front. Rather than let you pass, and then overtake you where there might not be an opportunity, he just boots it to let you know that actually, he is staying in front. That might seem selfish and foolish of him, but its no worse than your desire to be in front of him.

Given the fact you started before the NSL, he was probably waiting for the sign until he gave it propper gas, I can't actually blame him.

Had it been later in the NSl, he wasn't doing speed, you went to overtake and he blocked, then yes, it wouldn't be excusable in the slightest.

In my opinion, two large egos on a small road.

(Thats not to say you are a bad person, or that the audi driver is bad. I'm sure you are quite agreeable, albiet in a hurry)


simoid

19,772 posts

157 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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matthias73 said:
So you want to get in front of a someone, and he decides he would rather be in front. Rather than let you pass, and then overtake you where there might not be an opportunity, he just boots it to let you know that actually, he is staying in front. That might seem selfish and foolish of him, but its no worse than your desire to be in front of him.

Given the fact you started before the NSL, he was probably waiting for the sign until he gave it propper gas, I can't actually blame him.

Had it been later in the NSl, he wasn't doing speed, you went to overtake and he blocked, then yes, it wouldn't be excusable in the slightest.

In my opinion, two large egos on a small road.

(Thats not to say you are a bad person, or that the audi driver is bad. I'm sure you are quite agreeable, albiet in a hurry)
Are you trolling?

That's all very well, but you should either maintain a constant speed when being overtaken, or slow down a bit to allow the overtaker safe passage. Certainly you shouldn't accelerate and potentially leave them stranded in the face of oncoming traffic.

zygalski

7,759 posts

144 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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Linus27 said:
...and by carrying out the overtake move too quickly...
Not nearly quickly enough, imo.

Jon999

Original Poster:

400 posts

147 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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zygalski said:
Not nearly quickly enough, imo.
It was flat out. I apologise if a mapped 2.2 litre diesel Mondeo isn't fast enough for you. IMO it is more than capable of overtaking swiftly as demonstrated here (despite the overtaken c2 having a hissy fit prompting me to save the clip and review it) http://youtu.be/F5_lgMPyoHM just no match for a 4.2 litre Audi.

blueg33

35,573 posts

223 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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Sometimes people are in a hurry, sometimes they are not. Why can't the ones not in a hurry just accept that others may be and make it easier for them to pass?

gaz1234

5,233 posts

218 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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Jon999 said:
It was flat out. I apologise if a mapped 2.2 litre diesel Mondeo isn't fast enough for you. IMO it is more than capable of overtaking swiftly as demonstrated here (despite the overtaken c2 having a hissy fit prompting me to save the clip and review it) http://youtu.be/F5_lgMPyoHM just no match for a 4.2 litre Audi.
wk music

Jon999

Original Poster:

400 posts

147 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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gaz1234 said:
wk music
Unsure why people bother going on about another persons taste in music. Seems like a waste of time to me. Thanks for your input though.