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heebeegeetee said:
I love how he extrapolates that to mean he has to place his car in the gutter. 
That's spesh.
Not not IN the gutter you wally, just close enough to keep cyclists safe and provide a "safe space" for M'Bikes who are filtering. (as you keep telling us it is they who are most at danger on the open road)That's spesh.
Edited by Stickyfinger on Tuesday 17th October 13:56
Stickyfinger said:
Not not IN the gutter you wally, just close enough to keep cyclists safe and provide a "safe space" for M'Bikes who are filtering.
Well as hiscocks says, and as seen in this thread earlier where cyclists debate whether its safer to pass on nearside or offside, what have you achieved exactly? They're still going to pass you anyway. If they pass you too close, you haven't achieved the 1.5metres anyway. Which is fine, because as you so dishonestly infer, the police are NOT going to prosecute a motorist who is closely passed by a cyclist and have NEVER said so. I'm sorry to again infer a level of dishonesty on another poster, but in this regard Stickyfinger is just totally making stuff up.
I do find it interesting that in the first 2-3 pages or so of this thread, cyclists debate whether its safer to pass nearside or offside, and all based on drivers not looking - which side are they most/least likely to be bladdered by a driver not looking?
It's one hell of an indictment of us drivers, imo.
Cyclists, you can pass me on either side you like. Firstly, I don't drive without looking, secondly, I have too much self respect for myself to block overtakes - I watch countless numpties doing that all the time (not usually to cyclists though) and I am never going to join their number. Third, I work and cooperate with traffic and don't block it, and so on...
I did post on this thread "Insight into the thinkings of the average motorist" https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... that these anti-cycling numpties absolutely give me an insight into the mind of the average driver.
heebeegeetee said:
Well as hiscocks says, and as seen in this thread earlier where cyclists debate whether its safer to pass on nearside or offside, what have you achieved exactly? They're still going to pass you anyway. If they pass you too close, you haven't achieved the 1.5metres anyway.
Which is fine, because as you so dishonestly infer, the police are NOT going to prosecute a motorist who is closely passed by a cyclist and have NEVER said so. I'm sorry to again infer a level of dishonesty on another poster, but in this regard Stickyfinger is just totally making stuff up.
Cyclists, you can pass me on either side you like. Firstly, I don't drive without looking, secondly, I have too much self respect for myself to block overtakes - I watch countless numpties doing that all the time (not usually to cyclists though) and I am never going to join their number. Third, I work and cooperate with traffic and don't block it, and so on...
and STUFF>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Safe Space is Safe space.Which is fine, because as you so dishonestly infer, the police are NOT going to prosecute a motorist who is closely passed by a cyclist and have NEVER said so. I'm sorry to again infer a level of dishonesty on another poster, but in this regard Stickyfinger is just totally making stuff up.
Cyclists, you can pass me on either side you like. Firstly, I don't drive without looking, secondly, I have too much self respect for myself to block overtakes - I watch countless numpties doing that all the time (not usually to cyclists though) and I am never going to join their number. Third, I work and cooperate with traffic and don't block it, and so on...
and STUFF>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
If a cyclist fell off when I was passing to close and falls under my wheels....what happens to me/his squishy bits ?
If a cyclist fell off when he was passing to close and falls under my wheels ....what happens to me/his squishy bits ?
And
Why increase the danger for M/Bikes by narrowing the road by staying 1.5 meters off the curb.?
Stickyfinger said:
Safe Space is Safe space.
If a cyclist fell off when I was passing to close and falls under my wheels....what happens to me/his squishy bits ?
If a cyclist fell off when he was passing to close and falls under my wheels ....what happens to me/his squishy bits ?
And
Why increase the danger for M/Bikes by narrowing the road by staying 1.5 meters off the curb.?
You can only control what you do, not what others do. If someone is intent on passing you too closely that's up to them , and has absolutely nothing to do with any recent measures successfully undertaken by the police.If a cyclist fell off when I was passing to close and falls under my wheels....what happens to me/his squishy bits ?
If a cyclist fell off when he was passing to close and falls under my wheels ....what happens to me/his squishy bits ?
And
Why increase the danger for M/Bikes by narrowing the road by staying 1.5 meters off the curb.?
You'll have to carry on with your bad manners and obstructive behaviour whilst policing the roads.
heebeegeetee said:
You can only control what you do, not what others do. If someone is intent on passing you too closely that's up to them , and has absolutely nothing to do with any recent measures successfully undertaken by the police.
You'll have to carry on with your bad manners and obstructive behaviour whilst policing the roads.
I do not want it on my mind for the rest of my life thanks.....other peoples choice does/could effect me.You'll have to carry on with your bad manners and obstructive behaviour whilst policing the roads.
Bad manners....LOL....I am the safe one here as I provide for M/Bikes (who you do not seem to care about) and Cyclists safety....
Edited by Stickyfinger on Wednesday 18th October 11:56
Stickyfinger said:
heebeegeetee said:
Well as hiscocks says, and as seen in this thread earlier where cyclists debate whether its safer to pass on nearside or offside, what have you achieved exactly? They're still going to pass you anyway. If they pass you too close, you haven't achieved the 1.5metres anyway.
Which is fine, because as you so dishonestly infer, the police are NOT going to prosecute a motorist who is closely passed by a cyclist and have NEVER said so. I'm sorry to again infer a level of dishonesty on another poster, but in this regard Stickyfinger is just totally making stuff up.
Cyclists, you can pass me on either side you like. Firstly, I don't drive without looking, secondly, I have too much self respect for myself to block overtakes - I watch countless numpties doing that all the time (not usually to cyclists though) and I am never going to join their number. Third, I work and cooperate with traffic and don't block it, and so on...
and STUFF>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Safe Space is Safe space.Which is fine, because as you so dishonestly infer, the police are NOT going to prosecute a motorist who is closely passed by a cyclist and have NEVER said so. I'm sorry to again infer a level of dishonesty on another poster, but in this regard Stickyfinger is just totally making stuff up.
Cyclists, you can pass me on either side you like. Firstly, I don't drive without looking, secondly, I have too much self respect for myself to block overtakes - I watch countless numpties doing that all the time (not usually to cyclists though) and I am never going to join their number. Third, I work and cooperate with traffic and don't block it, and so on...
and STUFF>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
If a cyclist fell off when I was passing to close and falls under my wheels....what happens to me/his squishy bits ?
If a cyclist fell off when he was passing to close and falls under my wheels ....what happens to me/his squishy bits ?
And
Why increase the danger for M/Bikes by narrowing the road by staying 1.5 meters off the curb.?
Stickyfinger said:
WinstonWolf said:
You skipped physics at school, didn't you...
Enlighten me YodaHow much force is involved in a bicycle touching a car while filtering in slow moving/stationary traffic?
How much force is involved in two and a half tons of car hitting a person on a bicycle at speed?
You need to understand the physics to play this quiz...
WinstonWolf said:
You are aware of how force is calculated, yes?
How much force is involved in a bicycle touching a car while filtering in slow moving/stationary traffic?
How much force is involved in two and a half tons of car hitting a person on a bicycle at speed?
You need to understand the physics to play this quiz...
OK clever clogs.How much force is involved in a bicycle touching a car while filtering in slow moving/stationary traffic?
How much force is involved in two and a half tons of car hitting a person on a bicycle at speed?
You need to understand the physics to play this quiz...
@ 25mph, me overtaking, cyclist falls under my wheels = force ?
@ 25mph, cyclist undertaking, cyclist falls under my wheels = force ?
I remind you....I ALWAYS give the safe space required where safe whatever the speed of my car.
Edited by Stickyfinger on Thursday 19th October 10:26
Stickyfinger said:
WinstonWolf said:
You are aware of how force is calculated, yes?
How much force is involved in a bicycle touching a car while filtering in slow moving/stationary traffic?
How much force is involved in two and a half tons of car hitting a person on a bicycle at speed?
You need to understand the physics to play this quiz...
OK clever clogs.How much force is involved in a bicycle touching a car while filtering in slow moving/stationary traffic?
How much force is involved in two and a half tons of car hitting a person on a bicycle at speed?
You need to understand the physics to play this quiz...
@ 25mph, me overtaking, cyclist falls under my wheels = force ?
@ 25mph, cyclist undertaking, cyclist falls under my wheels = force ?
I remind you....I ALWAYS give the safe space required where safe whatever the speed of my car.
Edited by Stickyfinger on Thursday 19th October 10:26
Stickyfinger said:
WinstonWolf said:
Ah, you don't understand physics. That explains it...
Obviously not, please show me the forces on the soft bits under my wheels so I can understand...........Cyclist hits you whilst you're stationary, won't end up under wheels.
You hit cyclist while piloting two and a half tons of vehicle at 60MPH, dead cyclist.
WinstonWolf said:
If you'd paid attention at school you'd have understood. Have you considered going to night school?
Cyclist hits you whilst you're stationary, won't end up under wheels.
You hit cyclist while piloting two and a half tons of vehicle at 60MPH, dead cyclist.
Oh dear oh dear.....try harder with the attempted insults please because that is showing you up.Cyclist hits you whilst you're stationary, won't end up under wheels.
You hit cyclist while piloting two and a half tons of vehicle at 60MPH, dead cyclist.
Try answering the question.....(I remind you AGAIN we are not talking about ANY speed difference)
I will post it again to assist you..
@ 25mph, me overtaking, cyclist falls under my wheels = force ?
@ 25mph, cyclist undertaking, cyclist falls under my wheels = force ?
Stickyfinger said:
WinstonWolf said:
If you'd paid attention at school you'd have understood. Have you considered going to night school?
Cyclist hits you whilst you're stationary, won't end up under wheels.
You hit cyclist while piloting two and a half tons of vehicle at 60MPH, dead cyclist.
Oh dear oh dear.....try harder with the attempted insults please because that is showing you up.Cyclist hits you whilst you're stationary, won't end up under wheels.
You hit cyclist while piloting two and a half tons of vehicle at 60MPH, dead cyclist.
Try answering the question.....(I remind you AGAIN we are not talking about ANY speed difference)
I will post it again to assist you..
@ 25mph, me overtaking, cyclist falls under my wheels = force ?
@ 25mph, cyclist undertaking, cyclist falls under my wheels = force ?
Stickyfinger said:
Stickyfinger said:
WinstonWolf said:
You are aware of how force is calculated, yes?
How much force is involved in a bicycle touching a car while filtering in slow moving/stationary traffic?...I am asking failing under my wheels not "touching"....I am not thus intrested in this figure
How much force is involved in two and a half tons of car hitting a person on a bicycle at speed? I am asking about failing under my wheels when my car is at 20mph and not "at speed"....I am not thus interested in this figure
You need to understand the physics to play this quiz...
OK clever clogs.How much force is involved in a bicycle touching a car while filtering in slow moving/stationary traffic?...I am asking failing under my wheels not "touching"....I am not thus intrested in this figure
How much force is involved in two and a half tons of car hitting a person on a bicycle at speed? I am asking about failing under my wheels when my car is at 20mph and not "at speed"....I am not thus interested in this figure
You need to understand the physics to play this quiz...
@ 25mph, me overtaking, cyclist falls under my wheels = force ?
@ 25mph, cyclist undertaking, cyclist falls under my wheels = force ?
I remind you....I ALWAYS give the safe space required where safe whatever the speed of my car.
Sorry to disappoint you, but as I say I am not interested in those figures .....When safe I always leave the Safe Space I have a duty to provide.
So, figures for "touching" and "at speeds such as 60mph" are NOT relevant to me or my specific question.
Now, as you belittle my education, please help me and provide the information you have challenged me on/show what the differences (you claim) there is between the two options I have asked about.
WinstonWolf said:
You are aware of how force is calculated, yes?
How much force is involved in a bicycle touching a car while filtering in slow moving/stationary traffic?
How much force is involved in two and a half tons of car hitting a person on a bicycle at speed?
You need to understand the physics to play this quiz...
How much force is involved in a bicycle touching a car while filtering in slow moving/stationary traffic?
How much force is involved in two and a half tons of car hitting a person on a bicycle at speed?
You need to understand the physics to play this quiz...
This one, as soon as you answer I will quite happily destroy your scenario. You need to demonstrate an understanding of basic physics, otherwise the discussion will just go completely over your head.Gassing Station | Advanced Driving | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff