Germany - home of the best road drivers
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This is just one example of why driving in Germany is so much more advanced than the UK...... Another glaring example of the difference between the UK and Germany regarding driving was that on the very same day that the 70mph speed limit was introduced in the UK many years ago, in Germany a law was passed ruling that if 5 or more cars were in line behind you on an autobahn then you had to move over to the inside lane to let them pass...... I was lucky enough to spend 10 happy years of my life living in Germany and driving fast cars on un-restricted autobahnen. It was a joy unlike driving in the UK where driving fast (competently) was frowned upon by the authorities and overtaking another driver was akin to insulting them and their family, and all their relations........ Germany is the true home of the petrolhead and has always been so...........
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eAyeAddio said:
Exactly.
Leaving a free lane in the center for emergency vehicles to use.
Wouldn't (couldn't) happen in the UK due to a total lack of understanding by the average motorist of the simplest driving standards required of them.
In the UK, the hard shoulder is the free lane... even better, it doesn't require active thought to create it.Leaving a free lane in the center for emergency vehicles to use.
Wouldn't (couldn't) happen in the UK due to a total lack of understanding by the average motorist of the simplest driving standards required of them.
The linked photograph doesn't show anything relating to driving skill. It shows drivers complying with relevant legislation.
I've driven in many other countries, but never - to date - in Germany, so I'll reserve judgement for now, but I've got a little trip over to the Nurburgring booked for June, so I'll find out for myself then.
I've driven in many other countries, but never - to date - in Germany, so I'll reserve judgement for now, but I've got a little trip over to the Nurburgring booked for June, so I'll find out for myself then.
Can't agree with OP, the driving in Germany is far worse than ours....look at he death rate over there for a start far more than our average of 5 a day. They have nearly 9
I have driven extensively in Germany, they love tail gating at very high speeds. Hence when it goes wrong it goes wrong bad!
Like already said they have far more eastern europeans on their roads than we do whose general standard of driving is far lower than the Germans/Dutch/UK .
The worst drivers I experience in in Western Europe are Belgium's... hate driving through there!
The carnage will only get worse the more the "easties" flood to the west of Europe. For example a Romanian guy I chatted to the other day, had recently exchanged his Romanian licence for a GB one, and said that when he took his test in Romania the examiner wanted to save time, so 4 of them were in his car, and swapped into the driving seat after about a km of driving in a loop. !!! Same Romanian loves driving in the UK because we are all so polite, and safe! His driving was shocking.....he failed his "Taxi" assessment.....but was not overly worried as he was an "Amazon" delivery driver, but wanted to drive Taxi's as the money and hours are better....he was going to practice and try again!
All over Europe the death rate is creeping up, I suspect in part to the standards of driving from the new EU members being able to drive on their licence without having to take a driving test that is not effected by corruption, and at a higher standard.
I have driven extensively in Germany, they love tail gating at very high speeds. Hence when it goes wrong it goes wrong bad!
Like already said they have far more eastern europeans on their roads than we do whose general standard of driving is far lower than the Germans/Dutch/UK .
The worst drivers I experience in in Western Europe are Belgium's... hate driving through there!
The carnage will only get worse the more the "easties" flood to the west of Europe. For example a Romanian guy I chatted to the other day, had recently exchanged his Romanian licence for a GB one, and said that when he took his test in Romania the examiner wanted to save time, so 4 of them were in his car, and swapped into the driving seat after about a km of driving in a loop. !!! Same Romanian loves driving in the UK because we are all so polite, and safe! His driving was shocking.....he failed his "Taxi" assessment.....but was not overly worried as he was an "Amazon" delivery driver, but wanted to drive Taxi's as the money and hours are better....he was going to practice and try again!
All over Europe the death rate is creeping up, I suspect in part to the standards of driving from the new EU members being able to drive on their licence without having to take a driving test that is not effected by corruption, and at a higher standard.
watchnut said:
Can't agree with OP, the driving in Germany is far worse than ours....look at he death rate over there for a start far more than our average of 5 a day. They have nearly 9
I have driven extensively in Germany, they love tail gating at very high speeds. Hence when it goes wrong it goes wrong bad!
Like already said they have far more eastern europeans on their roads than we do whose general standard of driving is far lower than the Germans/Dutch/UK .
The worst drivers I experience in in Western Europe are Belgium's... hate driving through there!
The carnage will only get worse the more the "easties" flood to the west of Europe. For example a Romanian guy I chatted to the other day, had recently exchanged his Romanian licence for a GB one, and said that when he took his test in Romania the examiner wanted to save time, so 4 of them were in his car, and swapped into the driving seat after about a km of driving in a loop. !!! Same Romanian loves driving in the UK because we are all so polite, and safe! His driving was shocking.....he failed his "Taxi" assessment.....but was not overly worried as he was an "Amazon" delivery driver, but wanted to drive Taxi's as the money and hours are better....he was going to practice and try again!
All over Europe the death rate is creeping up, I suspect in part to the standards of driving from the new EU members being able to drive on their licence without having to take a driving test that is not effected by corruption, and at a higher standard.
I'm in full agreement with this. Last October I drove several '000 kms in UK, Belgium, Netherlands and Germany. But all better than here in Australia!I have driven extensively in Germany, they love tail gating at very high speeds. Hence when it goes wrong it goes wrong bad!
Like already said they have far more eastern europeans on their roads than we do whose general standard of driving is far lower than the Germans/Dutch/UK .
The worst drivers I experience in in Western Europe are Belgium's... hate driving through there!
The carnage will only get worse the more the "easties" flood to the west of Europe. For example a Romanian guy I chatted to the other day, had recently exchanged his Romanian licence for a GB one, and said that when he took his test in Romania the examiner wanted to save time, so 4 of them were in his car, and swapped into the driving seat after about a km of driving in a loop. !!! Same Romanian loves driving in the UK because we are all so polite, and safe! His driving was shocking.....he failed his "Taxi" assessment.....but was not overly worried as he was an "Amazon" delivery driver, but wanted to drive Taxi's as the money and hours are better....he was going to practice and try again!
All over Europe the death rate is creeping up, I suspect in part to the standards of driving from the new EU members being able to drive on their licence without having to take a driving test that is not effected by corruption, and at a higher standard.
eAyeAddio said:
Exactly.
Leaving a free lane in the center for emergency vehicles to use.
Wouldn't (couldn't) happen in the UK due to a total lack of understanding by the average motorist of the simplest driving standards required of them.
I was stuck in traffic last week because of an accident ahead. All the emergency services including a fire engine and a recovery truck got up the middle, no problem Leaving a free lane in the center for emergency vehicles to use.
Wouldn't (couldn't) happen in the UK due to a total lack of understanding by the average motorist of the simplest driving standards required of them.
Should add, this was a dual carriageway with no hard shoulder.
Edited by 7mike on Saturday 17th March 17:36
It's perhaps a few years old now but the experience of my recent trip to Europe supports this:
http://www.safespeed.org.uk/roadsafety.html
Len
Sydney
http://www.safespeed.org.uk/roadsafety.html
Len
Sydney
Len Woodman said:
It's perhaps a few years old now but the experience of my recent trip to Europe supports this:
http://www.safespeed.org.uk/roadsafety.html
Len
Sydney
More up to date figures support this too.http://www.safespeed.org.uk/roadsafety.html
Len
Sydney
http://etsc.eu/euroadsafetydata/
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-17-675_e...
There are other sites and other analyses (e.g. fatalities per million miles travelled etc,) that support the same picture for individual countries.
watchnut said:
Can't agree with OP, the driving in Germany is far worse than ours....look at he death rate over there for a start far more than our average of 5 a day. They have nearly 9
I have driven extensively in Germany, they love tail gating at very high speeds. Hence when it goes wrong it goes wrong bad!
Like already said they have far more eastern europeans on their roads than we do whose general standard of driving is far lower than the Germans/Dutch/UK .
The worst drivers I experience in in Western Europe are Belgium's... hate driving through there!
The carnage will only get worse the more the "easties" flood to the west of Europe. For example a Romanian guy I chatted to the other day, had recently exchanged his Romanian licence for a GB one, and said that when he took his test in Romania the examiner wanted to save time, so 4 of them were in his car, and swapped into the driving seat after about a km of driving in a loop. !!! Same Romanian loves driving in the UK because we are all so polite, and safe! His driving was shocking.....he failed his "Taxi" assessment.....but was not overly worried as he was an "Amazon" delivery driver, but wanted to drive Taxi's as the money and hours are better....he was going to practice and try again!
All over Europe the death rate is creeping up, I suspect in part to the standards of driving from the new EU members being able to drive on their licence without having to take a driving test that is not effected by corruption, and at a higher standard.
Agreed. I've been living in Germany for 5 years now. The Germans are such aggressive petty drivers, always trying to get one over on each other. Complete lack of manners as well.I have driven extensively in Germany, they love tail gating at very high speeds. Hence when it goes wrong it goes wrong bad!
Like already said they have far more eastern europeans on their roads than we do whose general standard of driving is far lower than the Germans/Dutch/UK .
The worst drivers I experience in in Western Europe are Belgium's... hate driving through there!
The carnage will only get worse the more the "easties" flood to the west of Europe. For example a Romanian guy I chatted to the other day, had recently exchanged his Romanian licence for a GB one, and said that when he took his test in Romania the examiner wanted to save time, so 4 of them were in his car, and swapped into the driving seat after about a km of driving in a loop. !!! Same Romanian loves driving in the UK because we are all so polite, and safe! His driving was shocking.....he failed his "Taxi" assessment.....but was not overly worried as he was an "Amazon" delivery driver, but wanted to drive Taxi's as the money and hours are better....he was going to practice and try again!
All over Europe the death rate is creeping up, I suspect in part to the standards of driving from the new EU members being able to drive on their licence without having to take a driving test that is not effected by corruption, and at a higher standard.
I much prefer driving in the UK. Also agree that Belgium is the worst.
All I can say is they know how to get out of the passing lane. In 6 months of driving in Germany, I could probably count on one hand the number of times I undertook some clueless idiot on the autobahn. In the UK I probably undertook at least that many people EVERY TIME I was on a dual carriageway or motorway.
aj520d said:
Agreed. I've been living in Germany for 5 years now. The Germans are such aggressive petty drivers, always trying to get one over on each other. Complete lack of manners as well.
I much prefer driving in the UK. Also agree that Belgium is the worst.
My experience on the autobahn was lots of people carriers tailgating each other at 110mph. I much prefer driving in the UK. Also agree that Belgium is the worst.
Having lived in Germany and driven a lot on Autobahns I have to disagree with the OP for a number of reasons:
1. Very aggressive / lack of patience
2. Driving far too close to one another
3. Lack of courtesy
4. Lane discipline on 2 lane Autobahns is very good but on 3 lane Autobahns it's not much better than in the UK
1. Very aggressive / lack of patience
2. Driving far too close to one another
3. Lack of courtesy
4. Lane discipline on 2 lane Autobahns is very good but on 3 lane Autobahns it's not much better than in the UK
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