Going across mini roundabouts

Going across mini roundabouts

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Peter3442

422 posts

68 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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I guess the set roundabouts at Frideswide Square count as 'mini', though the spot in the middle is fairly big, In fact, the spots are so big that anyone turning left is likely to put a wheel over them. If you made the effort to go around them properly, there's a serous risk that other drivers may assume that you are turning left when you aren't (yes even though your are signalling).

Another problem with those roundabouts, or the drivers and cyclists that use them, is that quite often people seem to forget the priority system, drive out in front of those they should be giving way to and wait for cars coming onto the roundabout from their left. Fortunately, speeds are usually very low.

lyonspride

2,978 posts

155 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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Peter3442 said:
Another problem with those roundabouts, or the drivers and cyclists that use them, is that quite often people seem to forget the priority system, drive out in front of those they should be giving way to and wait for cars coming onto the roundabout from their left. Fortunately, speeds are usually very low.
Some people, in fact A LOT of people, seem to think that a mini roundabout is like a normal junction and that traffic going straight over has priority, hence not giving way to cars on the right.


Peter3442

422 posts

68 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Peter3442 said:
I guess the set of roundabouts at Frideswide Square, Oxford, count as 'mini', though the spot in the middle is fairly big, In fact, the spots are so big that anyone not turning left is likely to put a wheel over them. If you made the effort to go around them properly, there's a serous risk that other drivers assume that you are turning left when you aren't (yes even though your are signalling).

Another problem with those roundabouts, or the drivers and cyclists that use them, is that quite often people seem to forget the priority system, drive out in front of those they should be giving way to and wait for cars coming onto the roundabout from their left. Fortunately, speeds are usually very low.

Stella Tortoise

2,629 posts

143 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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There's an inconvenient one on the way out of our village, when I used to leave for work at 5:30 I would often straight line it and pass through on the wrong side.

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

116 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Stella Tortoise said:
There's an inconvenient one on the way out of our village, when I used to leave for work at 5:30 I would often straight line it and pass through on the wrong side.
I am sure that whoever designed that mini RaB is sorry that it is inconvenient for you. And going over on the wrong side. Not at tortoise speed I'll be bound.drivingrolleyes

Stella Tortoise

2,629 posts

143 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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nonsequitur said:
I am sure that whoever designed that mini RaB is sorry that it is inconvenient for you. And going over on the wrong side. Not at tortoise speed I'll be bound.drivingrolleyes
Goddamrightmothrfker.

Did someone take away your bks?

Edited by Stella Tortoise on Saturday 8th September 21:47

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

116 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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Stella Tortoise said:
nonsequitur said:
I am sure that whoever designed that mini RaB is sorry that it is inconvenient for you. And going over on the wrong side. Not at tortoise speed I'll be bound.drivingrolleyes
Goddamrightmothrfker.

Did someone take away your bks?

Edited by Stella Tortoise on Saturday 8th September 21:47
Yes. It's my high-pitched sqeaky voice that gives me away.drivinglaugh

smithyithy

7,240 posts

118 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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There's one on my commute that seems to be a regular conflict point..



The red car will wait to make sure the blue car is going 'straight on', then pull out and swap paths. The cars in the green position often cut over the effective 'wrong side' of the roundabout, treating it simply as a right turn, and end up in the path of the red car.


nonsequitur

20,083 posts

116 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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smithyithy said:
There's one on my commute that seems to be a regular conflict point..



The red car will wait to make sure the blue car is going 'straight on', then pull out and swap paths. The cars in the green position often cut over the effective 'wrong side' of the roundabout, treating it simply as a right turn, and end up in the path of the red car.
Surely, If all vehicles are indicating correctly there should be no problems. But, on the other hand few indicate these days.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Waitrose in Cobham has a mini roundabout that is easier to go round the wrong way if it’s all clear. Traveling north up Anyards road. Gives you a better view of both other approaching lanes, far safer and faster


Imon123

1 posts

30 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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I failed today with 2 minors and 1 serious fault which was driving over mini roundabout dot.there were plenty of space both of my site .I couldn't believe when I examiner said I failed because of that mini round about. Could it be a minor fault?

jamei303

3,002 posts

156 months

Friday 8th October 2021
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I often go across mini-roundabouts, but only where they're so badly designed that to do the legal thing would convince someone that I'm turning left and make an accident more likely.

e.g.:



Sherpa Kev

31 posts

70 months

Saturday 9th October 2021
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Imon123 said:
I failed today with 2 minors and 1 serious fault which was driving over mini roundabout dot.there were plenty of space both of my site .I couldn't believe when I examiner said I failed because of that mini round about. Could it be a minor fault?
The Highway Code states that you "MUST" pass round the central markings where ever possible. Hence the fail.

Rule 188
Mini-roundabouts. Approach these in the same way as normal roundabouts. All vehicles MUST pass round the central markings except large vehicles which are physically incapable of doing so. Remember, there is less space to manoeuvre and less time to signal. Avoid making U-turns at mini-roundabouts. Beware of others doing this.

donkmeister

8,148 posts

100 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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jamei303 said:
I often go across mini-roundabouts, but only where they're so badly designed that to do the legal thing would convince someone that I'm turning left and make an accident more likely.

e.g.:


Isn't one of the aims of mini roundabouts actually to slow traffic down to negotiate them? In which case, making them slightly awkward contributes to achieving that goal. biggrin

Sometimes it's best to honour the intention of the roundabout rather than being slavish to where the paint ends, the problems come when people ignore them completely and barrel through without slowing, coming into conflict with other road users.

otolith

56,076 posts

204 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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jester

Foss62

1,033 posts

65 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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jamei303 said:
I often go across mini-roundabouts, but only where they're so badly designed that to do the legal thing would convince someone that I'm turning left and make an accident more likely.

e.g.:


As others have pointed out, the design may be on purpose to slow people down. With your two examples (is the first one Fulbourn?) I think I would be tempted to put a right indicator on even though going straight on. However, any accident in those circumstances would involve you hitting another car that pulled out in front of you, so probably the onus is on you to accept that a car might assume you were turning left and drive accordingly?

Agarange

83 posts

30 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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Apologies if this is a double post but some mini roundabouts have give way marking on one or more entrances. Thus this would change the order of priorities. At least that's how I read it.