Advanced driving and the GDE matrix

Advanced driving and the GDE matrix

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7mike

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3,010 posts

193 months

Monday 24th June 2019
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The current thread regarding speed on smart motorways got me thinking. Given the pack mentality which seems to have gone in all guns blazing at the op I just wondered if it's time the current definition of 'advanced driving' could do with a re-hash? Although I'm sure all here are aware of it, the agreed definition (by IAM, RoSPA, DVSA etc) is;

"Advanced Driving is the ability to control the position and speed of the vehicle safely, systematically and smoothly, using road and traffic conditions to make reasonable progress unobtrusively, with skill and responsibility. This skill requires a positive but courteous attitude and a high standard of driving competence based on concentration, effective all round observation, anticipation and planning. This must be co-ordinated with good handling skills. The vehicle will always be in the right place on the road at the right time, travelling at the right speed with the correct gear engaged and can always be stopped safely in the distance that can be seen to be clear."

Ok, so it does contain the words 'courteous attitude'. But I just think there's lots of emphasis on the lower level competencies and next to bugger all on the more important bits. By the way, it's page 259 of the current edition of Roadcraft for those that didn't stay awake that far into the book. Apologies, for the intrusion, I generally stay away from this section these days, feel free to discus or ignore wink

vonhosen

40,233 posts

217 months

Monday 24th June 2019
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7mike said:
Ok, so it does contain the words 'courteous attitude'. But I just think there's lots of emphasis on the lower level competencies and next to bugger all on the more important bits. By the way, it's page 259 of the current edition of Roadcraft for those that didn't stay awake that far into the book. Apologies, for the intrusion, I generally stay away from this section these days, feel free to discus or ignore wink
There have been multiple threads over the years Re the GDE matrix & the lack of emphasis on higher level competencies within the training environment/delivery.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

163 months

Monday 24th June 2019
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The problem in that other thread is that the OP won't admit to possibly being in the wrong ,even just a tiny bit.

He's obviously perfect driver and everybody else is a maniac doing 52 in a 50.

S. Gonzales Esq.

2,557 posts

212 months

Tuesday 25th June 2019
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All the more reason why Mind Driving should become the standard text...

7mike

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3,010 posts

193 months

Tuesday 25th June 2019
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S. Gonzales Esq. said:
All the more reason why Mind Driving should become the standard text...
Have a look at 'Can Drivers Really Teach Themselves' by Ian Edwards, It's aimed at driver trainers at all levels not just learners, I think you might find it interestingsmile

S. Gonzales Esq.

2,557 posts

212 months

Tuesday 25th June 2019
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Yes - It's a really interesting book, and a worthwhile read for anyone concerned with driver education.

I'm currently involved in a young driver training project which will require me to write a training manual for our volunteer coaches. Ian Edwards is one of the project advisors and will hopefully be checking my work before we publish.

Haltamer

2,455 posts

80 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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S. Gonzales Esq. said:
Yes - It's a really interesting book, and a worthwhile read for anyone concerned with driver education.

I'm currently involved in a young driver training project which will require me to write a training manual for our volunteer coaches. Ian Edwards is one of the project advisors and will hopefully be checking my work before we publish.
Hmm, I'd be interested to read that when you've completed it.

I've just ordered Mind Driving; Are there any other good book recommendations?

Len Woodman

168 posts

113 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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The best start is:

"Motoring without fears" - Earl of Cottenham, 1928
"Steering Wheel Papers" - Earl of Cottenham, 1932

The best bits are about how motorists were 'persecuted'!